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Nov 20th, 2020, 08:44 AM
#281
Re: Presidential Debates
Originally Posted by dilettante
Republicans? Oh, those people who supported Joe Biden. Like Mitt Romney, "Flint Lead" Snyder, John Kasich, and so many more.
That comment is no more meaningful now than the first time you posted it.
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Nov 20th, 2020, 08:48 AM
#282
Re: Presidential Debates
Originally Posted by dilettante
Republicans? Oh, those people who supported Joe Biden. Like Mitt Romney, "Flint Lead" Snyder, John Kasich, and so many more.
I mean "real" republicans. You listed RINOs
Please remember next time...elections matter!
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Nov 20th, 2020, 08:57 AM
#283
Re: Presidential Debates
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
I mean "real" republicans. You listed RINOs
I'm not sure that that's necessarily the case, particularly given that many would call Biden and those like him DINOs. It seems like many just want to claim that those at the interface between the parties aren't "real" members of their own party. Where Republicans are concerned, I'd suggest that they are "real" Republicans in that they see Trump as an existential threat to the their party establishment. To be frank, there's a large number of people from both parties who have very similar fiscal policy and really only differ significantly on the social side, e.g. both support corporations over people but differ on whether abortions and same-sex marriage should be legal.
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Nov 20th, 2020, 08:59 AM
#284
Re: Presidential Debates
Originally Posted by jmcilhinney
I'm not sure that that's necessarily the case, particularly given that many would call Biden and those like him DINOs. It seems like many just want to claim that those at the interface between the parties aren't "real" members of their own party. Where Republicans are concerned, I'd suggest that they are "real" Republicans in that they see Trump as an existential threat to the their party establishment. To be frank, there's a large number of people from both parties who have very similar fiscal policy and really only differ significantly on the social side, e.g. both support corporations over people but differ on whether abortions and same-sex marriage should be legal.
I was half kidding but this is one of the few times I, almost, agree with you
Please remember next time...elections matter!
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Nov 20th, 2020, 09:00 AM
#285
Re: Presidential Debates
Originally Posted by jmcilhinney
It seems like many just want to claim that those at the interface between the parties aren't "real" members of their own party.
It does seem funny.. I see a lot of posts on reddit about "X Democrat is fed up and is voting Trump!", but as soon as the opposite comes up "X Republican is voting Biden!" the right instantly goes "those aren't real republicans."
While the democratic party seems to be having a lot of growing pains right now, the Republicans are definitely very divided right now with Trump seemingly being the divisor.
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Nov 20th, 2020, 09:03 AM
#286
Re: Presidential Debates
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
I was half kidding but this is one of the few times I, almost, agree with you
I'll take that as a win.
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Nov 20th, 2020, 09:13 AM
#287
Re: Presidential Debates
Originally Posted by kfcSmitty
the Republicans are definitely very divided right now with Trump seemingly being the divisor.
I think that they are more divided than it appears on the surface too, because it's not just those who agree with Trump and those who don't. It's those who agree with Trump, those who disagree with Trump and are open about it and those who disagree with Trump but hide it because they think that that is the way to power.
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Nov 20th, 2020, 09:14 AM
#288
Re: Presidential Debates
many would call Biden and those like him DINOs
I've had my suspicions about this guy's integrity for a while
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter - Winston Churchill
Hadoop actually sounds more like the way they greet each other in Yorkshire - Inferrd
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Nov 20th, 2020, 10:24 AM
#289
Re: Presidential Debates
As far as I can tell the "real" Dems and Reps are like those two old guys making dollar bets on peoples' lives in Trading Places.
Your Bidens, Romneys, Clintons, Bushes, and the like.
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Nov 25th, 2020, 03:21 AM
#290
Re: Presidential Debates
Well, Big Poppa T has finally told the GSA to process the transition. I think it's a shame he still can't find it in himself to formally concede but at least it looks like he's finally accepting reality.
I have to say, Giuliani appears to have run one of the best grifts I've ever seen on Trump. 20K a day to make him look like an idiot.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter - Winston Churchill
Hadoop actually sounds more like the way they greet each other in Yorkshire - Inferrd
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Nov 25th, 2020, 06:32 AM
#291
Re: Presidential Debates
Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
I have to say, Giuliani appears to have run one of the best grifts I've ever seen on Trump. 20K a day to make him look like an idiot.
Like he needs any help with that. Of course, it's not going to be Trump who foots the bill for that farce. It will be his rabid supporters who will never accept that he lost fair and square, even if he were to come out and admit it himself now. They'd spin it as him just doing the best thing for the country after the legal system turned against him as well. Even after Trump himself started wearing masks and got COVID, there are people now dying of COVID in hospital and cursing doctors for not treating them for what they really have. When stupid people invest so much in believing a lie, you cannot redeem them.
Last edited by jmcilhinney; Nov 25th, 2020 at 09:27 AM.
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Nov 25th, 2020, 06:46 AM
#292
Re: Presidential Debates
Joseph Goebbels, minister of propaganda for the Nazi German government of the Third Reich, understood the power of repeating falsehoods. “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it,” he asserted, “people will eventually come to believe it.” This phenomenon, pervasive in contemporary politics, advertising, and social media, is known in cognitive psychology as the “illusory truth effect.”
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...-must-be-true/
Some PA state republican lawmakers, Trump and Giuliani are meeting in Gettysburg today told hold a "hearing" on the election. Of course it is at a hotel not a court room. Pathetic
Last edited by TysonLPrice; Nov 25th, 2020 at 07:22 AM.
Please remember next time...elections matter!
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Nov 25th, 2020, 09:39 AM
#293
Re: Presidential Debates
At the end of the day, it looks like the most practical situation played out now that the states are starting to certify their results.
I obviously would have loved it if Jo Jorgensen won, but that was never really going to happen.
Biden wins the presidency, the Republicans (in all likelihood) retain a razor thin majority in the senate, and the Republicans pick up 10 house seats but the Democrats keep the majority of the house of representatives.
With those results, I'm thinking that partisanship tendencies will force the federal government into gridlock, making very little happen. And I am completely fine with that.
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Nov 25th, 2020, 02:21 PM
#294
Re: Presidential Debates
I basically agree with that analysis. And, sadly the bar has been set so low that I'm fine with that. I feel good that we will have a president with morals and cares about this country. Now I can go back to disliking politicians in general.
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