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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Lol.
    But this is an expression you use in the states right? I wouldn't want to go about and say that on Facebook and they misinterpret and kick me out.
    If I had a facebook account.
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Never heard the phrase "hanging by my lips". But I've led a sheltered life.

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    I just assumed it was a surfer thing.

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    It's a daily phrase in Greece.
    I though it was used in US but from your replies probably doesn't . But it must be used in some English terrains as it googles up OK.
    Surfer thing?
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    Yeah, I've never heard that before.
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Well...You learn something new every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante View Post
    I just assumed it was a surfer thing.
    I've heard of "Hanging 10" but not "hanging by my lips" .... sounds painful. There are those "artists" though that hang themselves by needles through their nipples and other parts of their bodies.... *shudder*


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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    That reminds me of an old movie:



    Dude gets hung by his nipples in a ritual there.

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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by sapator View Post
    I didn't address that to anyone in particular...funny you assumed it was you. That tells me you know what you are doing and also know it is wrong.
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Oh,yeah we forgot about you...
    Right. On the same thread on the same page on the same subject.
    Are you taking us for fools or just just trying to look naive?
    So my post did also not address to anyone in particular as you can see because I'm way ahead of you and knew exactly what you will write back.

    Anyhow, have you heard the hanging from his lips expressions?
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    "We", "Us"? Since when did you start speaking for the forum? I'm pretty sure you and your "flue" beliefs are in the minority. Or are you "Are you taking us for fools or just just trying to look naïve"
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    Come on, you where caught red handed so let's drop it as it's pointless.
    Let's not go Niya on the thread kay?
    I'm going for a swim..
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by sapator View Post
    Come on, you where caught red handed so let's drop it as it's pointless.
    Let's not go Niya on the thread kay?
    I'm going for a swim..
    Actually you busted yourself responding to a post not addressed to you out of guilt. Now you want me to accept responsibility for your post.
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Our rules don't cover miss-information (unless you were to class it as trolling) so Sappy (and anyone else) is safe on that front. Besides, it's not like the information's going unchallenged.

    As for hanging by your lips - I guess that could happen if you tried to snog a ski lift. Of course, that would beg the question of why you would want to snog a ski lift but we're not here to judge as long as the ski lift gives it's consent.
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Ohh that good ol' narrow English language
    Metaphor, it's called metaphor and we are known to use it from the beginning of time but apparently some terms are completely of, even if they are shown as valid on search engines. Well, I hope they come out more as entertaining than confusing.

    P..S Actually I'm not 100% sure it's a metaphor of it falls into a wider "figure of speech" range.Hmm...
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by sapator View Post
    Anyhow, have you heard the hanging from his lips expressions?
    You sure, you don't mean "on" instead of "from"?
    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/hang+on+his+lips

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    It would be valid if we wanted to "Englishize" it. But it's "from" , or at an alternation "by" but not "on".

    https://translate.google.com/?sl=el&...5&op=translate

    Using "on" will do the opposite effect and make it non meaningful in Greek.

    I guess we are caught in a trans continental expression sphere.Creeeepyyyyy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sapator View Post
    Let's not go Niya on the thread kay?
    I wasn't even here
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    Lol.
    It was with the best intentions, since you went berserk on the VB6 thread I though it was a good example of locking a thread after repetitive "fight" .

    The question is how the heck did you notice that little example? Hmm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sapator View Post
    The question is how the heck did you notice that little example? Hmm?
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    To bad you where not subscribed from the beginning.
    You would get in your email 81 pages notifications of nonsense.
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    No 3rd dose needed for now according to study with a few exceptions.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...046-8/fulltext
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...d-jab-booster/

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    Edit I have no link but just saw on the news that Moderna said that the vaccine wears heavily off over time. They do that to get you to do the third dose. Money money money. Since I have no link I don't applause to that yet, so, yenom yenom yenom.
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    From what I'm hearing the Jury's still out on the third (booster) shot. They think it's likely to be beneficial but it's as yet unproven and, if it is beneficial, they don't really know how much. Under those circumstances, hedging your bets by getting a booster seems a sensible course of action.

    Mind you, my personal gut feeling is that we'd likely do a lot better shipping those shots out to poorer countries which haven't been able to get enough shots yet. Failure to do that just risks incubating another escape variant.
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyDexter View Post
    From what I'm hearing the Jury's still out on the third (booster) shot. They think it's likely to be beneficial but it's as yet unproven and, if it is beneficial, they don't really know how much. Under those circumstances, hedging your bets by getting a booster seems a sensible course of action.

    Mind you, my personal gut feeling is that we'd likely do a lot better shipping those shots out to poorer countries which haven't been able to get enough shots yet. Failure to do that just risks incubating another escape variant.
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    No thanks. We still have 10-15 million surplus doses from the previous fiasco.
    I think that the dictator is already pushing those that will soon expire to other nearby countries. That is unethical but I guess that is not a word in their vocabulary, although it's a Greek word, comes from ithos (ethos) .
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by sapator View Post
    No thanks. We still have 10-15 million surplus doses from the previous fiasco.
    I think that the dictator is already pushing those that will soon expire to other nearby countries. That is unethical but I guess that is not a word in their vocabulary, although it's a Greek word, comes from ithos (ethos) .
    The word "ethics" is derived from the Greek word ethos (character), and from the Latin word mores (customs). Together, they combine to define how individuals choose to interact with one another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyDexter View Post
    Mind you, my personal gut feeling is that we'd likely do a lot better shipping those shots out to poorer countries which haven't been able to get enough shots yet. Failure to do that just risks incubating another escape variant.
    On the surface that might seem to make some sense... until you realize that it doesn't.

    One of the first nasty mutants arose in the U.K., and most of the spread of Delta globally came through the U.K.

    Denying 3rd doses to Americans to give them away to the 3rd world just screams globalism. Those days are over.

    I'd be all for declaring costs have been recaptured already though, and both lowering the price closer to real production and packaging costs and ramping up production so there are more doses to go around. There is no reason to punish people in poorer countries, and we've already compensated Big Pharma for development costs. I don't see why we should keep spending tax dollars to reward them just to make it available elsewhere - which is what you have suggested.

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    To bad you where not subscribed from the beginning.
    You would get in your email 81 pages notifications of nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante View Post
    I'd be all for declaring costs have been recaptured already though, and both lowering the price closer to real production and packaging costs and ramping up production so there are more doses to go around. There is no reason to punish people in poorer countries, and we've already compensated Big Pharma for development costs. I don't see why we should keep spending tax dollars to reward them just to make it available elsewhere - which is what you have suggested.
    We're going to, one way or another. The cost per dose is far higher in the US as opposed to developing countries. Therefore, they would be much happier selling third doses to Americans than selling to the developing world.

    Still, globalization is not dead, as the virus has shown: A bad idea can spread around the world at record speed. Good ideas are slower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TysonLPrice View Post
    The word "ethics" is derived from the Greek word ethos (character), and from the Latin word mores (customs). Together, they combine to define how individuals choose to interact with one another.
    That's a little off. First there is no latin, if you talk about mores, that is somewhat different and only apply to customs that is a portion of what ethic is.

    The work comes from ethos that means ordinary residence place,habit,character and custom.
    So the word ethic-y is mentioned in the place where there man exists and in extent it's relationship with other human, god and it's esoteric character.
    Ethic started becoming a subject of philosophical thought in the age of Socrates. At that time philosophy was trying to give meaning in nature, among the main subjects of Greek philosophers was virtue,just,common law and covi...errr bliss .Socrates however turned the philosophical thought of that age in maters that concerned man and society and was the fist philosopher doing so.
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    SH,

    Looks like Idaho is being hit really hard. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...surge-rcna1997

    Is this a fair assessment???

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    You could use the animated state-by-state history map here:

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/map

    It also offers a 14-day forecast.


    The figures seem to match other sources much better than the CDC's published numbers, for whatever reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wes4dbt View Post
    SH,

    Looks like Idaho is being hit really hard. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...surge-rcna1997

    Is this a fair assessment???
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    I was watching Fox news a bit this morning. They are calling them "obedience masks" now
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    Quote Originally Posted by TysonLPrice View Post
    I was watching Fox news....
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niya View Post
    Substitute Fox for Howard Stern and you'll know why. This is from the movie about him.


    Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes a day. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
    Kenny: How could this be?
    Researcher: Answer most commonly given: "I want to see what he'll say next."
    Kenny: : All right, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
    Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
    Kenny: : But... if they hate him, why do they listen?
    Researcher: Most common answer: "I want to see what he'll say next."
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    Quote Originally Posted by TysonLPrice View Post
    Substitute Fox for Howard Stern and you'll know why. This is from the movie about him.


    Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes a day. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
    Kenny: How could this be?
    Researcher: Answer most commonly given: "I want to see what he'll say next."
    Kenny: : All right, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
    Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
    Kenny: : But... if they hate him, why do they listen?
    Researcher: Most common answer: "I want to see what he'll say next."
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    One of the first nasty mutants arose in the U.K.
    I think you're referring to the Alpha strain and it was pre-vaccines.

    most of the spread of Delta globally came through the U.K.
    I don't think that's quite correct. It originated in India and hit the UK because of our close historic ties to India - there was alot of travel back and forth between the two nations. I don't think I've seen anything that it incubated significantly further in the UK. Quite the opposite, in fact. Our Delta infection and transmission rates were fairly high but they have been much lower that, for example, the US, due to our better vaccination rates.

    That misses the point, though. The objective isn't to prevent escape variants from spreading - once a variant has achieved escape capacity it is, by definition, too late. The objective is to prevent escape variants from evolving in the first place.

    Denying 3rd doses to Americans to give them away to the 3rd world just screams globalism.
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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    It's not only death with vaccines but serious sideffects on young people.

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    Girl in coma after vaccine
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INrgQF5vdfY
    https://www.zougla.gr/greece/article...meta-to-pfizer

    Boy cannot walk after the vaccine
    https://www.makthes.gr/ekane-to-emvo...patisei-440969

    Boy dead after vaccine on my root place Arcadia
    https://www.protothema.gr/greece/art...mvoliasmo-tou/

    These are 3 cases on one week. Should I keep posting cases every week? No because it's macabre.
    So don't vaccinate young children.

    And one I saw in US:
    https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com...fizer-vaccine/

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    Re: [RESOLVED] Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

    I looked at the third link...for reasons that are weird, but basically came down to the fact that I didn't want to watch a video and missed the fact that the second link wasn't a video.

    That ended up being translated (it's an amazing world we live in), and he made a telling point: If it was the vaccine, why aren't there other cases with similar symptoms? Millions of J&J jabs given and ONE results in this type of problem? At that point, there are actually more likely causes of the disease than the vaccine itself. For one thing, hospitals tend to have some pretty interesting bugs. Another could have been the jab itself. And there's a third, which the doctors suggested, as well, though it amounts to a medical shrug: It's psychological, not neurological.

    Frankly, if you spend any time looking, you'll find that the human mind can produce some truly amazing results in the body. That's pretty well known, and relatively common when compared to the alternative proposed.
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