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Jan 13th, 2022, 02:27 PM
#4561
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
We have always the same problem here, people that are not willing of being informed is accusing others of being misinformed.
What can be done with that?
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Jan 13th, 2022, 02:35 PM
#4562
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
It always amazes me when people claim to know what motivates "95% of Earths population". How many people do they have actual personal knowledge of? Not many.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 02:49 PM
#4563
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by wes4dbt
It always amazes me when people claim to know what motivates "95% of Earths population". How many people do they have actual personal knowledge of? Not many.
What do you mean, specifically?
General phases do not help, because they can be understood in either way.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 02:51 PM
#4564
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by wes4dbt
It always amazes me when people claim to know what motivates "95% of Earths population". How many people do they have actual personal knowledge of? Not many.
I think if I said 95% of the Earths population is motivated by hunger I think I'd be more than right.
Please remember next time...elections matter!
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Jan 13th, 2022, 03:08 PM
#4565
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
OK, here are some interesting videos, the two channels that I am going to share videos from are on youtube. Youtube now is censoring everything related to covid that is not backed with verifiable information. So if a channel is still there and have not been taken down, you can trust they are backed with data that can't be disputed. Mostly official data. Although the official data in many cases is manipulated too, but in the opposite side.
The first one is about international data about Omicron:
For the ones that do not wish to watch to the full video but want to "skim", one thing that I found more interesting is the graph at 19:35 that compares different contagious diseases. Omicron is not there because the graph is from 2020.
Another interesting video is from Drbeen.
The data set is a bit small but still interesting.
It compares Omicron with flu using official data.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 03:39 PM
#4566
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by wes4dbt
How many people do they have actual personal knowledge of?
When you ask a stranger for directions or the cashier at a mini-mart you've never been to before for a pack of gum, why do it in your native tongue? You never met these people before, why assume they speak the same language as you? But more importantly, how many times was your assumption correct?
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Jan 13th, 2022, 03:42 PM
#4567
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Here we are in the peak of the wave.
It is difficult to know how many real cases we have because the system is not able to test all the people that want to be tested, and also because not everybody go to be tested anyway.
In many places the queues of people waiting the get tested are of several blocks, and it can take many hours. So if one was not infected, he can get infected there )
We've been having around 130,000 cases per day (in a 44 million population), with a positivity rate of about 65%. That means that from 100 persons tested, 65 are positive.
AFAIK, I didn't get it so far.
I'm taking precautions because I prefer not to get infected, and because there is still also some Delta out there.
In September I got a cold, and I wondered how did I get it, since I was taking precautions (wearing mask in closed places, not coming close to other people, etc.).
I realized that even taking sound precautions, you can get infected.
Omicron is believed (I think that was on one of the videos I posted above, with data from the University of California) to the the most contagious ever known virus on history.
But it has a death rate well lower than the seasonal flue.
Still it is a disease. But what are we talking about? To close borders, mandate vaccination passports, not allowing people to do normal life because of a virus that is like a cold, and with a death rate so low?
Vaccination help very little in preventing Omicron infection.
And are they trying to enforce vaccination just now, when Omicron seems to be a solution more than a problem?
You tell me what is going on.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 04:07 PM
#4568
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
The mainstream information have been deceiving from the start. An example:
We were told that this virus was something that had nothing to do with any other known virus (or something like that).
That it was named "coronavirus" because in the microscope the scientists look like a crown, and "corona" means crown (in Spanish BTW "crown" is translated "corona" but I think the naming comes from Latin).
Like it was some novel name that was given now to this new virus.
We were told that there was nothing to protect from it, just lockdowns.
The reality is that coronaviruses type viruses are one of the most common viruses. Many of the common colds are coronaviruses.
It is not something novel or recently named.
It is well know that some vitamins, vitamin D, vitamin C and others protect against these viruses.
It is proven (with studies) that these vitamins protect against Covid-19 too.
Where is that information in the mainstream media?
On the contrary, they are all censored.
Do you still don't suspect that something not normal seems to be going on?
Last edited by Eduardo-; Jan 13th, 2022 at 04:11 PM.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 04:42 PM
#4569
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by Niya
When you ask a stranger for directions or the cashier at a mini-mart you've never been to before for a pack of gum, why do it in your native tongue? You never met these people before, why assume they speak the same language as you? But more importantly, how many times was your assumption correct?
That's got nothing to do with personal motivations. Assuming someone speaks your native tongue is an assumption you make based on the environment, you can make that assumption based on the knowledge you have of that environment. But to claim you have enough knowledge to know what personally motivates of 95% of people is something completely different. How could you possibly know all that. Like I said. It amazes me someone could even think that's possible.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 04:50 PM
#4570
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
I think if I said 95% of the Earths population is motivated by hunger I think I'd be more than right.
I'd say that "hunger" is a broad enough term that it's a more reasonable statement. In some impoverished country is might be true. But hey I guess, we all hunger for something.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 04:52 PM
#4571
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
10 months, not sick 1 day, I eat fruits everyday and eat food with d vitamin rich.
I do cold showers and breathing technics.
I go out, I dont care at all, never used hand sanitizer and masks only if Im forced to wear it. I want my immune system to work not to be lazy and weak.
as Eduardo wrote, corona is not just covid-19 its everywhere. the same with the flu and other viruses.
covid-19 is used, as I wrote, its to hide other problems, is to force people into submission, is to get away with responsibilities etc.
they cheat with the numbers, apply all patients as covid patients. elderly dies all the time, and if theres a trace of corona = another number into the statistics.
as I also wrote (real data, no youtube)
that the death rates during a 7 years span is the same, and 2021 is even lower compared to 2018.
the real culprit is the hospitals, another "real data, no youtube" about how politicians try to hide the facts that the health care is not working, people waiting too long for treatments and dies. elderly care that are so bad, its no wonder they died. its malpractice. they use covid as excuse.
but that doesn't mean covid-19 is not strong. it is. and weak and old people die from it. nobody is saying otherwise.
but are the government really trying to protect them? or are they trying to protect themselves?
and don't get me started with all the greedy people in charge, they want to sell vaccines and other products.
but sure, no matter what I write, you will just say. no, its not true. so its futile. you believe in your stuff and I mine.
but don't say crap like its youtube and unreliable sources. its facts, statistics, taken directly from the sites of government, you can look it up yourself, its free for anyone to read.
but you will not. because you believe in "media" without looking at any source yourself.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 05:10 PM
#4572
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by baka
I also wrote (real data, no youtube)
Originally Posted by baka
another "real data, no youtube"
Originally Posted by baka
but don't say crap like its youtube and unreliable sources.
IDK why you are so much against anything that is in youtube. There are some good channels, they are few, but they are backed with real data.
I think it is on the contrary, as I wrote before:
Originally Posted by Eduardo-
Youtube now is censoring everything related to covid that is not backed with verifiable information. So if a channel is still there and have not been taken down, you can trust they are backed with data that can't be disputed. Mostly official data. Although the official data in many cases is manipulated too, but in the opposite side.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 05:30 PM
#4573
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
So if a channel is still there and have not been taken down, you can trust they are backed with data that can't be disputed.
That is naive to think. I remember videos being taken down because the host was asking the question "Are the hospitalization numbers being over counted? It is easy to see how they could be considering they test everyone for COVID, regardless of why they come in the hospital." but just the other day even Dr. Fauci admitted that its possible that the hospitalization numbers could be over counted (for the same reason).
What's more is that YouTube won't go back and reinstate the video it took down for spreading "misinformation"
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Jan 13th, 2022, 05:32 PM
#4574
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
yeah. I agree, alternative media is the new thing. of course theres a lot of crap, but theres good channels as well.
but I was telling this to the people that are ignoring youtube believing its all fake.
but they are not just ignoring youtube but everything else as well.
so it doesn't matter what links, videos, diagrams, documents etc you place here. they will just ignore it completely.
thats for me is a fundamentalist personality, scary stuff.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 05:54 PM
#4575
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by dday9
That is naive to think. I remember videos being taken down because the host was asking the question "Are the hospitalization numbers being over counted? It is easy to see how they could be considering they test everyone for COVID, regardless of why they come in the hospital." but just the other day even Dr. Fauci admitted that its possible that the hospitalization numbers could be over counted (for the same reason).
What's more is that YouTube won't go back and reinstate the video it took down for spreading "misinformation"
Yes, I know that that's in happening. And that's was just my point: if a channel is not taken down, it is because the information it presents is backed on information that can't be disputed (by youtube).
I had been, I know that Drbeen channel had several videos taken down in the past, but after he disputed it they were restored.
Anyway youtube can take down whatever channel or videos at their sole discretion without providing any reason.
The censorship that is being applied is so huge that most people don't have a clue.
It is happening in Youtube, Facebook, Tweeter, Linkedin and all major media, including news agencies like Reuters, and TV holdings, that are managed by the same investment groups.
This is historic, we are in a "special" time, and people don't realize.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 05:56 PM
#4576
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by baka
yeah. I agree, alternative media is the new thing. of course theres a lot of crap, but theres good channels as well.
but I was telling this to the people that are ignoring youtube believing its all fake.
but they are not just ignoring youtube but everything else as well.
so it doesn't matter what links, videos, diagrams, documents etc you place here. they will just ignore it completely.
thats for me is a fundamentalist personality, scary stuff.
Ah, OK.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 06:12 PM
#4577
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by Eduardo-
The mainstream information have been deceiving from the start. An example:
We were told that this virus was something that had nothing to do with any other known virus (or something like that).
This may be a cultural difference. What I remember from very early on was that it was SARS COV-2, which was clearly NOT something novel, since SARS COV-1 isn't all that long ago.
The bit about vitamins being a preventative has been around for a very long time. Whether or not they ever protect you isn't clear. They certainly haven't protected me. I get a pretty solid dose of both C and D each day, but I get about the same number of common colds as anybody I'm around. If I get any less, I certainly haven't noticed it.
The Vitamin C craze seems to have started around the late 70s, or so, at least in the US. There is plenty of information about it in mainstream media and elsewhere. However, that's the US. I felt that the whole thing about Vitamin C was part of the counter-culture stuff of the late 70s, which comes with a whole bunch of political baggage of its own. Other countries may have different experiences.
My usual boring signature: Nothing
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Jan 13th, 2022, 06:15 PM
#4578
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
It is my experience from what I see in my country regarding media, politics and so, that about 1/3 of the population prefer to be deceived, being lied doesn't matter, they are fanatics. They don't reason and don't want to know facts.
1/3 are in the opposite side, they hate to be deceived (and stolen) but some become also very fanatic about being in the opposite side and don't look to actual facts, just anything that is according to their ideas is OK.
And the other 1/3 is in the middle, they don't know what to think and sometimes are more convinced from one side and sometimes from the other.
At the end, this 1/3 of the middle defines the outcome, at least while we (still) have democracy.
This perception is not only mine, I remember that I read that there are studies pointing that in more or less the same proportions. Now I don't recall what studies were, they were something of the US government (perhaps CIA) of some decades ago. Sorry that I can't provide something more accurate.
But now I don't think we are globally in that proportion regarding what it is really happening in this pandemic, due to the opposing information being systematically suppressed.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 06:17 PM
#4579
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by baka
that the death rates during a 7 years span is the same, and 2021 is even lower compared to 2018.
Maybe that's true where you live. It isn't true in the US. Our death rate is FAR higher than any preceding year.
You also have a difference in that you talk about politicians hiding that the health care is not working. That's not hidden in the US, it's accepted. Our health care is a the most that money can buy, but not the best that money can buy. If you have the money, you can be pampered here like no other place. We do some things VERY well, too, but for the average person...it's at least very expensive. The outcomes are kind of middle of the pack for developed countries.
My usual boring signature: Nothing
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Jan 13th, 2022, 06:18 PM
#4580
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
BTW corona does not come from latin it comes from ancient Greek. The word is Κορώνη (Coroni) that means curved object. Coroni second omicron in Greek is actually and omega so it should be written as CorΩna but latin are oversimplified so they O the Ω so CorOna-Virus.
Now get ready for the virus part. Virus is simply wīsos is Hindu European and that actually comes from an historical place near the city in Biotia Greece that was called Isos, that name was take from the Greek work Isopedon that means an earth straighten ground.
I should be charging for the lessons
Last edited by sapator; Jan 13th, 2022 at 06:25 PM.
Reason: A mod told me "virus" is not a Greek word. I laughed.
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Jan 13th, 2022, 06:48 PM
#4581
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by Eduardo-
Yes, I know that that's in happening. And that's was just my point: if a channel is not taken down, it is because the information it presents is backed on information that can't be disputed (by youtube).
This isn't correct, look at the videos that have RFK Jr. as a guest. They're taken down, never to be put back up, despite his book containing over 2,200 references.
Originally Posted by Eduardo-
Anyway youtube can take down whatever channel or videos at their sole discretion without providing any reason.
That is completely separate from "you can trust they are backed with data that can't be disputed." and sort of my point.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 06:50 PM
#4582
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
it most be harder to analyze the US with 330 million people compared to here, with 10 millions.
and we have good statistic on almost everything.
I can't tell why its different in the US.
of what I can read in news is
- hospital gets money for each covid patient.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/f...us/3000638001/
that I would be interested in, what this means.
and this:
- The statistics on how many are cared for for covid-19 can be misleading. Several regions are now alerting public health authority that the figures may be lower. The reason is that even people who are admitted for, for example, bone fractures but who have tested positive for covid-19 are classified as covid-19 patients, even though in practice this is a co-diagnosis.
I would think, if this happens here in Sweden, could this happen elsewhere as well?
that I would look into, is this happening in the US as well.
Im not a US citizen, but if I where I would be very interested in this.
so, 2 things. I start there. but its not enough to make any conclusion. we need more.
I will look at contractors, who is in charge or what, vaccines, who benefits, who signed what etc.
theres so many things u can do research if you are curious.
that is what Im doing, but mostly here, in Sweden, and Im not alone. now even politicians are starting to oppose, more and more people are waking up to all the lies.
if it happens here, and in many other countries in Europe. I wonder. is US different? they are a completely different species? no we are the same, so Im sure something is also happening there. but 330 millions is not making it easy.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 06:56 PM
#4583
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by dday9
This isn't correct, look at the videos that have RFK Jr. as a guest. They're taken down, never to be put back up, despite his book containing over 2,200 references.
That is completely separate from "you can trust they are backed with data that can't be disputed." and sort of my point.
Well, the channels that I'm talking about are presenting data that goes (mainly or to some degree) against what mainstream media says. Perhaps you didn't take (or know) that into account, and that was the key point of may argument.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 06:59 PM
#4584
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by baka
10 months, not sick 1 day, I eat fruits everyday and eat food with d vitamin rich.
I do cold showers and breathing technics.
Having some exposure to sunlight is also good, because the body produces vitamin D.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 06:59 PM
#4585
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
I don't see how applying your logic to channels that go against what the corporate media says is relevant.
What I was getting at is that your original statement says that only videos that have 100% indisputable evidence to what they're claiming are on YouTube's platform is naive. You then changed your argument to it not mattering if it is indisputable or not because YouTube can take down any videos they want.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 07:07 PM
#4586
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by dday9
I don't see how applying your logic to channels that go against what the corporate media says is relevant.
What I was getting at is that your original statement says that only videos that have 100% indisputable evidence to what they're claiming are on YouTube's platform is naive. You then changed your argument to it not mattering if it is indisputable or not because YouTube can take down any videos they want.
Having indisputable evidence do not guarantee that the channel won't be taken down, but guarantee that the information passed all filters, at least for now.
They are also channels with a history of many years in youtube, with many subscribers, that were already somewhat popular before the pandemic. May be that also take that into account.
IDK why they are not taken down, but in my reasoning the argument in favor of these channels is that even when youtube is taking down almost everything that doesn't go in like with the official narrative, they didn't take down them.
Remember that I was talking to people that only want to believe the official narrative.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 07:08 PM
#4587
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
So what's your point then: anything on youtube cannot be believed any more?
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Jan 13th, 2022, 07:24 PM
#4588
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
One key point for these channels might be that they never express things like there is a second intention from the Pharma industry or the governments (or conspiracy), they often say thinks like "I don't know why... (the CDC is not promoting vitamin D or allowing ivermectin, for example).
Always like thinking that the governments and official channels have good intentions, but implying that for some reason or human error they fail.
That could be the key why these channels are not being taken down.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 07:36 PM
#4589
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
I believe I heard and I have not investigated to be frank that about 85 "correction" youtube groups where asking youtube to have them somewhat upgraded , thus more money more "corrections".
I really have not investigated why youtube videos are taken down and what videos but if you ask me I think the videos that are taken down (except profound,sex,nudity videos) are the ones that might hurt rich peoples money, thus vs governmental that are actually vs governmental, medical vaccine videos etc.Now flat earthers won't cost someone money so,meh. Again haven't investigated.
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Jan 13th, 2022, 07:41 PM
#4590
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
The channel of Rusell Brand is not taken down either, and he often does imply or directly say that there are second intentions.
He does it mostly with backing data that leads to such conclusions, often with irony. And interviewing some renowned personalities.
May be because he is too famous, or because he has 4.6 millions subscribers, IDK why his channel is not taking down, but in his case he implies some (true) conspiracies often.
Nevertheless, he takes care not to pass some lines that it seems he already understood, he talks sometimes about censorship.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 08:01 PM
#4591
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by sapator
I believe I heard and I have not investigated to be frank that about 85 "correction" youtube groups where asking youtube to have them somewhat upgraded , thus more money more "corrections".
I really have not investigated why youtube videos are taken down and what videos but if you ask me I think the videos that are taken down (except profound,sex,nudity videos) are the ones that might hurt rich peoples money, thus vs governmental that are actually vs governmental, medical vaccine videos etc.Now flat earthers won't cost someone money so,meh. Again haven't investigated.
Exactly. They are taking down videos that go against their corporate global interests, or that can unveil to some people the truth of what is really happening.
Flat eathers, UFO conspiracionists, ghosts and so on, are not a problem.
Some days ago, a video was suggested to me by the youtuve algorithm, it was about "Who owns the world".
It started apparently good, and I got interested, but in the middle it started to be too speculative, and at the end, it ended with many assumptions.
Still, many of the information it presented may be true.
The video had been uploaded six months ago, and had more than 400,000 views.
I bookmarked the video and the channel, and took a look to other videos of that channel. All about pandemic conspiracy.
I was very surprised that that video was in youtube, the whole channel, and not being taken down.
Two days after that, I wanted to go again to the channel, and it was taken down.
It was here: https://www.youtube.com/user/Pomperg/videos
That video that I saw is on their internet site, it is here: https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/
It is the first one: MONOPOLY: WHO OWNS THE WORLD?
Those things are not allowed.
And they are banned from Google search too.
If you search for: MONOPOLY: WHO OWNS THE WORLD? in Google, you don't get it: https://www.google.com/search?q=MONO...S+THE+WORLD%3F
You have to use another search engine, like Bing:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=MONOPO...owns+the+world
And it is not that Bing is from good guys, it is that they don't care because it is seldom used (or may be it is not filtered because they are incompetent, that's another possible reason).
Or use the Russian Yandex: https://yandex.com/search/?text=MONO...LD%3F&lr=20837
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Jan 13th, 2022, 08:19 PM
#4592
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by wes4dbt
That's got nothing to do with personal motivations. Assuming someone speaks your native tongue is an assumption you make based on the environment, you can make that assumption based on the knowledge you have of that environment. But to claim you have enough knowledge to know what personally motivates of 95% of people is something completely different. How could you possibly know all that. Like I said. It amazes me someone could even think that's possible.
I think Niya is reasonably making assumptions that cover 95% of people. We have so much in common, being a social group of animals, that we can speak in global terms. We all want our families safe for example. There are basic human commonalities that cannot be denied. Being commonly in agreement in norms helps and that is becoming global. We have a more and more globally connected world. A humankind "consciousness" is present digitally. I don't think it is unreasonably to make broad statements about 95% of the people.
I'm pretty sure 95% of the people in the world would agree with that
Last edited by TysonLPrice; Jan 13th, 2022 at 08:24 PM.
Please remember next time...elections matter!
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Jan 13th, 2022, 09:31 PM
#4593
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
I think Niya is reasonably making assumptions that cover 95% of people. We have so much in common, being a social group of animals, that we can speak in global terms. We all want our families safe for example. There are basic human commonalities that cannot be denied. Being commonly in agreement in norms helps and that is becoming global. We have a more and more globally connected world. A humankind "consciousness" is present digitally. I don't think it is unreasonably to make broad statements about 95% of the people.
I'm pretty sure 95% of the people in the world would agree with that
But 95% of the people aren't "commonly in agreement in norms", not even close. Do you think our norms, India's norms, Russia's norms and China's norms are in agreement? Sure, love our children, need water, food and shelter are common. But there is no one common "acceptable behavior". And certainly 95% of the people don't make decisions about vaccines, the media or YouTube for the same personal motives. It would make life a lot less complicated, just lump 95% of the people into one group.
But I would have to admit Niya was right, that some people don't like to admit they are wrong. But I don't think that's the only motive in play here,
If you had a set that included all the people that believed in nonsense like gods, demons, black magic, ghosts, the illuminati, big foot, aliens and all the nonsense social ideas promoted in mainstream American media(eg. more than 2 genders), that set would most likely contain 95% of Earth's populations.
Last edited by wes4dbt; Jan 13th, 2022 at 11:05 PM.
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Jan 13th, 2022, 11:12 PM
#4594
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by Eduardo-
So what's your point then: anything on youtube cannot be believed any more?
My point is that YouTube (and Alphabet Inc.) is a business and make business decisions. They were brought into questioning by congress and were given pressure to "do something" or face regulations.
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Jan 14th, 2022, 12:24 AM
#4595
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Originally Posted by dday9
My point is that YouTube (and Alphabet Inc.) is a business and make business decisions. They were brought into questioning by congress and were given pressure to "do something" or face regulations.
And your source is?
PS: Yes, they make "business" decisions, like any other criminal organization does.
PS2: https://www.wsj.com/articles/youtube...te-11612288061
Google’s YouTube has ratcheted up censorship to a new level by removing two videos from a U.S. Senate committee. They were from a Dec. 8 Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs hearing on early treatment of Covid-19. One was a 30-minute summary; the other was the opening statement of critical-care specialist Pierre Kory.
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Jan 14th, 2022, 12:35 AM
#4596
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
And in the near future, with AI programs, nobody will be able to say anything against the interest of global corporations. It won't be even published.
Today's China will seem like a paradise.
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Jan 14th, 2022, 12:52 AM
#4597
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
A couple of years ago, most of the online newspapers I read allowed comments.
Now they took them out. There were many trolls, but some interesting debates were also taking place between the readers.
Now you cannot discuss anything about the articles.
Youtube comments still work, we don't know for how long.
Last edited by Eduardo-; Jan 14th, 2022 at 12:56 AM.
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Jan 14th, 2022, 01:46 AM
#4598
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
And now with the Metaverse the idea is to make everyone crazy.
People not living a real life with others, very abnormal. And totally under their control.
It is not my idea to be negative and pessimistic, but to be realistic and see what is going on. To raise some awareness.
Perhaps someone can have an idea to do something against these corporations and what is happening.
If I err, I prefer to err by overestimating the problem and not by understating it.
Better if I'm wrong and the situation is not so bad.
But I think it is, and I think the world is ruled by criminals.
Not different than it was in the past or in any other time, but now they have new tools.
I think we lived in a good period (Ok, more or less good), but we need to do something for posterity.
PS: ideas are welcome
Last edited by Eduardo-; Jan 14th, 2022 at 01:50 AM.
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Jan 14th, 2022, 02:20 AM
#4599
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
LOL, after I wrote the last message I saw this video. I don't agree with everything that is said there, but it is quite encouraging.
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Jan 14th, 2022, 02:52 AM
#4600
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Eduardo- that is very important https://www.vbforums.com/showthread....=1#post5551925
and should be a concern for everybody if you care about democracy at all.
if you are an elitist, sure, you should defend it, since its for your own benefit that you censor for everybody else so that you gain more power.
censorship is the start of any dictatorship. in all history of mankind it started like that, we censor to hide you from falsehood. but reality was always we censor so that we, the elitist can get away with our corruption.
thats how it is right now, they censor everything that can lead to people asking question.
right now theres a force that try to push this back. and the response is more censorship, more regulations, more of everything.
its actually a war of freedom. and all of you that defend this are part of the destruction of freedom. you should be ashamed of yourself.
so, since its a new page (for me so that u dont miss it) I want to encourage you to watch the video that Eduardo shared:
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/monopoly
Last edited by baka; Jan 14th, 2022 at 03:19 AM.
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