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    Deleting/Cancelling my Account

    I need help or instructions on how to delete or cancel my account in this site.

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    Re: Deleting/Cancelling my Account

    Normally we don't cancel or delete accounts. Just stop using it and, if you ever want to use it again, it'll be available for you.

    Is there any particular reason you'd want to cancel it?
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    Re: Deleting/Cancelling my Account

    Ditto. We don't delete accounts.

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    Re: Deleting/Cancelling my Account

    One reason is that I've been informed that my account here as been hacked and I want to delete it.

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    Re: Deleting/Cancelling my Account

    Quote Originally Posted by -terry View Post
    One reason is that I've been informed that my account here as been hacked and I want to delete it.
    I believe that there was a data breach at some point and account credentials were obtained by an unauthorised party but the solution to that is to change your password, not to delete your account.

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    I haven't read something like that or got an email.
    When did that happen?
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    Re: Deleting/Cancelling my Account

    Also.
    We are struggling with EU GDPR regulation here so I'm not sure if refusing to delete an account is or is not a violation of Europe GDPR laws.
    Of course I believe this is a US located site so I would just give the finger
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    If this was a BANK or some other sort of site where IMPORTANT Information were stored.....then maybe -terry should be concerned.

    But changing your password would be a good idea.

    We now force all active users to change their password every 12 months.

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    If this was a BANK or some other sort of site where IMPORTANT Information were stored.....then maybe -terry should be concerned.

    But changing your password would be a good idea.

    We now force all active users to change their password every 12 months.

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    As to the hack, in general, all it would mean is that your password was compromised. If you use the same password across lots of sites, then you have a bigger problem. That's a tough one, because dealing with the plethora of passwords we have these days is quite the issue. I'm not so thrilled with any of the options currently available. As for deleting an account after a hack, I believe the appropriate hayseed phrase would be, "Closing the barn door after the horses have escaped."
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    Yeah, when that happened I got alerts from Credit Karma and several other identity protection services. Changing the password and avoiding using the same password for multiple accounts was the only advice given.

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    Aha.
    OK was just asking because if it was a security breach (hopefully not a "security" breech) and passwords where stolen then people may use my password, as this is the only password I use, to hack into my bank account that holds a couple of million dollars. Hopefully they won't know that my bank username is bankuser1 so I'm probably safe. Of course they won't ever think that I have the same username and password so I guess I was worrying for nothing.
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    Oh, so you're bankUser1? I'm bankUser2? Is your password 12345 as well?


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    Re: Deleting/Cancelling my Account

    Re GDPR, all we'd be required to do would be to redact (not remove) personal information, or provide a mechanism allowing the user to redact it. The only personal information we hold is in you personal profile which you can freely alter yourself.

    Usernames and passwords aren't actually covered by GDPR because they're not considered personal information. Of course, they're possibly more worrying that personal data in the case of a breach but GDPR isn't about security, it's about your ability to control your personal identity.

    Of course, the advice is not to use the same details on multiple sites. Which is terrible advice unless you happen to have the mental capacity of Rainman. You should at least be using different ones for your banking though.

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    I'm not sure about usernames that consist of your email address. If they are considered personal info.

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    I'm not sure about usernames that consist of your email address. If they are considered personal info.
    The definition of personal info is woolly and there is no definitive list. Broadly, though, it boils down to "Can this uniquely identify the 'natural' person?" The natural person means the "real life" person as opposed to the identity in an isolated system. So an email address would be considered personal info because it addresses the natural person, but a username on this forum is not because it only addresses the individual as an entity on the forum. So your Username on VBF would almost certainly not be forgettable under GDPR - though, due to the lack of a concrete definition, we'll need to wait for case law to decide for certain.

    I guess the crux would be that "Sapator" on VBForums is not necessarily the same natural person as Sapator on Code Project or Sapator on Stack Overflow. I know there's definitely a few other FunkyDexters out there who aren't me (any time you see one logged into the Ed Sheeran fan club, for example, it is definitely not me... honest).

    Because an email is personal info in it's own right it would continue to be considered personal info if used as a logging in mechanism for a site. Sites that have used email addresses for this purpose (not unreasonably, it was touted as best practice) would have to redact it, thus "breaking" the account. I doubt that would be that difficult, though, unless the address had been used as a primary key - which, hopefully, they didn't.

    A further wrinkle comes in because the Right to be forgotten is superseded by a legitimate business use. That means that you don't have to honour a Right to Be forgotten request is you can show that you have a legitimate business use for the data. For example, I recently implemented GDPR for an insurance company and the policy there is that a persona details aren't truly forgotten (they're written to a locked down and audited database instead) until 7 years after the term of the contract. That's because a customer has a 7 year window to make a claim and the company would clearly need their details to process it.

    If you think how that applies to sites which use the email address to identify the individual on forums, it could be argued that retaining it indefinitely is a legitimate business use. The purpose of the forum is to become a knowledge base over time complete with ratings systems, reps and so on. Retaining the email address would be pertinent to that. I think the site would be on shaky ground with that defence but it's possible the judgement could go in their favour.
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    About GDPR. As I've said before, the company is trying to comply with those specs. We recently got back a 550 pages document reply from our GDPR collaborators company. Had a colleague read it ( ) so from my whole experience, at least on large scale companies, the solutions are very hard to be implemented and they is not an ideal solution.
    Regarding the email. Funny story here. We recently opened up a feature to our website to allow company colleagues to log in and get special privileges. The problem is that the original log in is the company email (until they log in and change it to a p.e. gmail or yahoo but this is optional). So they should probably had an acceptance form at first log in but since they are inside the company, we already have their data, so I'm not sure if that is GDPR issue (haven't heard a protest) . Fine Then another problem started aka materialized when our @#$@#$ partner that build the website created a bug that, if the username was similar to the email but the email have changed, then (since we give username and or email log in) the program decided that the username is actually the email of the person and not the username, so it tried to log in through the email. That would be fine if people could not change their email because at first run, I just created the users according to their email that , again, at first run is their company email. That is probably GDPR compliance as they are aware that they are using the company email A user then can go to the email option and change xxx@mycomapny.com to hellohell@yahoopis.com , so logging in with xxx@mycomapny.com will bug the program to decide that this is actually an email not username log in and find out that the email is xxx@mycomapny.com does not exist anymore because the user changed it to hellohell@yahoopis.com . So now the log must be hellohell@yahoopis.com . So long story short we got a bug and we got a thinking on GDPR as the user can change the email to their home email and we now have that data on the database. That is 1/1000 of the problems we are facing to comply with GDPR. I suggested to move the headquarters to USA or CHINA or Britain (now that you lucky people left EU) but nobody listens.
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    now that you lucky people left EU
    I'm not sure but I don't think Brexit will change our position on GDPR. It was passed as legislation while we were members so remains in place unless we rescind it. Since we voted for it at the time we're unlikely to do so.

    Anyway, it's looking less and less likely we'll Brexit at all. A soft Brexit's never getting through the Commons at this stage and it's hard to imagine that a No Deal would either. There just doesn't seem to be any individual form of Brexit that could garner enough support to pass. So we'll probably just keep extending the backstop until some party (probably Labour) campaigns a general election on a remain ticket at which point the whole thing will be swept back under the rug. Even if May can somehow drive it through (and she'd have to get it through a hostile Lords) it's been so watered down that it won't be perceived as a true Brexit by anyone who voted that way.

    I actually find that pretty worrying, even though I'm a remainer so you can kinda argue I'll get what I want. Personally, though, I think the Brexit vote was largely a reaction against supressing anti-immigration and anti-European voices for the last 20 years or so. If we're seen to backtrack on Brexit it'll just add fuel to that fire and, in 10 or 20 years, we're going to elect out own version of Donald Trump - except ours will be called Boris.
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    If the soft deal doesn't get passed, doesn't the default become "crashing out", rather than remaining? I thought the March deadline was kind of...terminal.

    To bring it back to the original topic, I thought the March deadline was a reckless

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    No we need more drastic actions here.
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    doesn't the default become "crashing out", rather than remaining?
    Sort of. But it's not quite as cut and dried as that. Point 3 of article 50 reads "The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period."

    So the March deadline might well be reckless, but it's also mandated. Unless a withdrawal agreement hasn't been reached in which case negotiations can be extended if both sides agree.

    In theory the EU could refuse to extend negotiations but that's highly unlikely because having the UK in the sort of "semi member" state outlined in the backstop arrangement suits them rather well. So that means we would likely only crash out if the UK decides not to extend, otherwise we fall back on the backstop. Whether the decision not to extend would needs to go through parliament or not is unclear - I don't think there's any rules one way or the other because we've never been here before. It's tempting to assume that only a positive rather than a negative motion (i.e. to extend rather than not to) would require a commons vote but bear in mind that we had already parliamentary and legal wranglings about whether parliament should have a say at all and parliament won. The momentum is in the direction of giving parliament the last word.

    Indeed, the whole nature of the backstop arrangement is pretty contradictory. It's the agreement of what will happen if we fail to fully negotiate our withdrawal. But it's part of the Withdrawal Agreement and, as Barnier stated right up front, "nothing is agreed until it's all agreed". So unless the Withdrawal Agreement is agreed the backstop arrangement has no force. And if the Withdrawal Agreement is agreed the backstop serves no purpose. Unpick that one.

    The truth is, this is an international negotiation. There is no legislation that has any real clout and the whole thing comes down to real politique; i.e. what can you get everyone to agree to.
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    There is a possibility that latest developments will catch up and EU will break down, at least on the Euro and central budget commitments.
    Of course Germany will fight like madmen to keep the current state because they are sucking dry all the other countries but if Italy resist and countries like Hungary, Austria, France (if Le Pen get's elected as she is rising up in polls) and of course our sold out government does not get replaced by the next sold out government waiting to take it's place. The it would be a happy happy day for everyone.
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    I doubt the breakup of the EU would be a happy day for anybody. Folks think it would all be roses, but that's wishful thinking. There's trillions in debts held in various areas, especially in various pension funds. It would be chaos that would almost certainly end with a deep recession like nothing we've seen in our lifetimes.

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    I super mega strongly disagree.
    We have already lost 60-70% of our pensions and going downhill having to pay outrageous amount to Germany, amounts that we do not have and we have put as collateral all of our country assets (harbors, plants, trains, buildings) for 99 years. Stock exchange is going down every day, banks collapses and we have millions of "immigrants" getting to Greek and stay there because they cannot be forwarded to other EU states based on the EU Dublin treaty. Legislation are passed through EU pressure for people that own laws to lose their first and only house claims.Please remember that the Greek model is house ownership not rental and 90% here owns som kind of property one way or another. We need to go and go fast. That goes also for the Mediterranean counties at first. Anybody stays behind will soon be destroyed(ka - poowww). I don't know if we will be here talking in the next 5-10 years but I think, and I hope I'm wrong that all hell is breaking loose in Europe.
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    My position on the EU is pretty counter-intuitive. I'm a remainer who thinks the EU is actually a pretty terrible organisation.

    Their response to the referenda that denied ratification of the EU constitution (they simply renamed it a treaty because that didn't require referenda to ratify), their handling of the Greek financial crisis (and their failure to provide and real support to Ireland or Spain when they struggled, their overriding of the Italian budget, their response (or lack of response) to the refugee crisis that is seeing thousands dying unnecessarily every year... all these things show them to be undemocratic, favourable to big businesses over people and ineffectual.

    However, I think "tar baby" is a pretty good description. Once you're in your stuck in and getting out is HARD. Lots of Brexiteers portray that difficulty as the EU trying to "punish" us but I don't think that's right. It's simply the nature of the beast. If you spend half a century bundling your trade and legislation into a single body, trying to unpick it in two years is unrealistic. And I'm not sure you can really unpick it one strand at a time either because you'll get very little pay off until you're all the way out. I'm afraid the only realistic way out is probably to cut the Gordian knot and go for a no deal Brexit. That would be massively painful in the short to medium term but would at least allow us to start building an independent economy - but even then I doubt that the eventual pay off would off set the loss we'd taken.

    I can absolutely understand why Sapator wants out. If I was Greek I'd almost certainly feel the same. I do worry, though, that "out" might end up being even worse than "in".

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    I agree on what you write.
    Getting out needs to be done with the right politicians though. Getting out with those slime monsters we have as government right now would be a terrible idea.
    In the long run I think we will be forced to get out, or kicked out because Germany thinks of us as something like "China" in labor terms. So they can keep us out and just give us the whip so we keep working for the new "colonial" free economic zones it needs to create. They don't need us in EU if they can control us even if we are out of EU.
    So the problem is the politician for us. I think that is 90% of the problem. With the right man we can get out.Aaaand not to be a pain again but Greeks are here for thousands and thousands of years, we have proven that we can survive an itchy bitchy thing like getting out of EU. We are persistent, annoying and you cannot get rid of us that easily.
    So I'm not afraid of the consequences of getting out but I'm afraid of the consequences if we elect the same kinda people again on the elections. I cannot really believe we are electing those muppets again and again. I can't believe the stupidity of some of my co - inhabitants sometimes. It makes me so angry I can hulk
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