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Jul 7th, 2015, 02:27 PM
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WiggleWiggle
Bitcoin Mining
Anyone bitcoin mine?
I am considering getting into it. $500 for an ASIC miner with an estimated $250/month payout depending on the luck and pool.
Not bad for free money
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Jul 7th, 2015, 02:34 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
No. Just no. Do not do this.
It is several years since the mining efficiency threshold was passed by. It now costs more than 1 bitcoin in electric bills to mine 1 bitcoin.
Bitcoin is deliberately designed to be resistant to improvements in hardware power over the years. This is what gives bitcoin it's intrinsic value. They are hard to get and therefore they are valuable.
The whole thing is a huge scam.
Last edited by wossname; Jul 7th, 2015 at 02:43 PM.
I don't live here any more.
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Jul 7th, 2015, 02:52 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
I'd say: Go for it anyways. Even though I believe Wossy is right, where would we get wool from if not from the fleeced?
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Jul 7th, 2015, 03:00 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Originally Posted by wossname
... It now costs more than 1 bitcoin in electric bills to mine 1 bitcoin.
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Extension cords and a neighbors house. If you are gonna get fleeced, you may as well fleece someone else.
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Jul 7th, 2015, 03:31 PM
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WiggleWiggle
Re: Bitcoin Mining
We have solar panels on my house that produce more energy than we use; we are feeding back into the grid most of the time. So there will be no lost profit toward the cost of power.
Are there any other objections?
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Jul 7th, 2015, 04:24 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Well, if you aren't being reimbursed for the surplus power you are feeding back, then there wouldn't be any cost. If you are being reimbursed, then the economics are the same regardless of whether your electric bill goes from -X to 0 as opposed to going from X to X+N.
However, it's a geeky thing to do, which I'm generally in favor of. I've just heard that this is a an increasingly losing proposition, and what Boss Woss stated was only the tip of the iceberg. Mining bitcoins was never intended to be a way for people to mint money, so it was designed to keep diminishing the returns. You may make your money back, you may not, but don't be doing it for the money. Keep in mind that if this really was a free lunch, there'd be so much competition that you'd never have a chance. So, if you have a chance....then there's a reason for it, you just may not know what it is, yet.
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Jul 7th, 2015, 04:31 PM
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WiggleWiggle
Re: Bitcoin Mining
Well the majority of it is the geek factor for sure. Making money is just a benefit of it, if it happens. If i make back what it costs to run the machine, even if it just pays for the machine, then I will be happy.
I am more interested in learning how it works and just tinkering with it for the most part. The fact that there would be zero extra cost for electricity is just another benefit. And yes we do make money back when we are producing for the grid.
I am not going to jump into it without getting feed back and researching a little more. Especially since an entry level machine costs about $500 + PSU
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Jul 7th, 2015, 08:20 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
I looked in to it a few years ago... decided against it. Main reason cost - it really takes a dedicated machine... the payout isn't very quick, it takes a long time to run the algorithm that generates the bitcoin codes. Meanwhile what you end up with is bitcoins that... well... are bitcoins... as far as I know there isn't a common exchange rate - like any other commodity, it varies... a quick check shows that it is "trading" at $266/bc .... which means your "payout" each month is a bitcoin... one lousy bitcoin.
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Jul 7th, 2015, 09:53 PM
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WiggleWiggle
Re: Bitcoin Mining
You are able to exchange fractions of bitcoin as well. I think it could be a fun hobby. But I also might want to buy a 3d printer instead. #LifeOfAGeek
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Jul 7th, 2015, 10:47 PM
#10
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
I was watching a guy who was explaining ASIC miners and he some how got 5 for free. It must be nice being a online personality sometimes... review my product and I will give you free ones...
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Jul 8th, 2015, 07:49 AM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Sounds like a cool thing to do, really. A good experiment to have a solar powered bitcoin miner...
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Jul 8th, 2015, 12:36 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
The price of a bitcoin spiked Wednesday soon after trading on the New York Stock Exchange was halted because of a technical glitch. One bitcoin was trading just below $268 when trading was halted at 11:32 a.m, according to the Coindesk bitcoin index, a bitcoin-price aggregator. It quickly shot up to a session high of $272.26 before trimming its gains slightly. The exchange has said that trading was halted because of a technical glitch. It has yet to resume. Bitcoin was up slightly on the day ahead of the halt. It was last up 1.9% on the day
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Jul 8th, 2015, 02:29 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Well, if DClamp wasn't able to actually sell his bitcoin, that could be considered a miner inconvenience.
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Jul 8th, 2015, 03:19 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Well, if DClamp wasn't able to actually sell his bitcoin, that could be considered a miner inconvenience.
I agree...a little bit.
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Jul 8th, 2015, 03:58 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
When deciding whether or not to get this device, you should figure out how much you can realistically keep it running. A bitcoin miner doesn't gain you a thing if it isn't running, so you probably want to also invest in some kind of a battery backup. After all, a mine is a terrible thing to waste.
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Jul 8th, 2015, 04:31 PM
#16
Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: Bitcoin Mining
Electricity in my area is pretty reliable. When we are not running off the solar, we are using power from the grid.
A Bitcoin miner would go through a battery backup in a few minutes, probably less. Unless I had a room sized UPS. It would likely have 100% uptime assuming the pool I am connected to does not fail or lose connection.
Another option is Cloud Computing. I looked at one company that is offering it, and didnt care for their contract. They move their equipment if the cost of electricity gets go high. They do not disclose their locations. In the end, I would make more buying my own miner and being a part of a pool
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Jul 9th, 2015, 12:09 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Quite being so serious when I'm busy setting up puns!!!
Besides, it isn't THAT expensive. It would be nothing more than a miner investment.
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Jul 9th, 2015, 01:07 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
You'll want to take your time digging around and before you pick, axe questions. You don't want to get shafted. But if there is a silver of a change why not? What I'd like to know is if bit coins are finite ore not. That's one of the hallmarks of a steady currency, there's a finite amount of that currency, which is what helps them to keep their value. You don't want it to be all in vein.
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Jul 9th, 2015, 02:04 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
There are lots of expenses, so be sure to adit all up before you decide. That mining could be a lode to bear, if you set out to mint some money and ended up just coining a bit of a phrase.
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Jul 9th, 2015, 08:26 PM
#20
Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: Bitcoin Mining
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Quite being so serious when I'm busy setting up puns!!!
Besides, it isn't THAT expensive. It would be nothing more than a miner investment.
I don't mine the puns, I am just trying to get bits and pieces of information from everyone to make a solid decision. I don't want to dig myself into a financial hole and waste money.
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Jul 9th, 2015, 08:27 PM
#21
Thread Starter
WiggleWiggle
Re: Bitcoin Mining
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
There are lots of expenses, so be sure to adit all up before you decide. That mining could be a lode to bear, if you set out to mint some money and ended up just coining a bit of a phrase.
That was good.
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Jul 10th, 2015, 02:13 AM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Coal!
Sorry, I couldn't thnk of one.
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Jul 10th, 2015, 02:28 AM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Not everyone strikes gold with their puns, unfortunately. Shaggy must be part of that mysterious underground punners guild.
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Jul 10th, 2015, 06:19 AM
#24
Re: Bitcoin Mining
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Quite being so serious when I'm busy setting up puns!!!
Besides, it isn't THAT expensive. It would be nothing more than a miner investment.
I agree! Shaggy Hiker is the gold standard of pun making and I was about to strike gold with mine. A little bit of humor is good for the soul. Sometimes mine are better then his but rarely. Strip away humor and we are lost.
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Jul 10th, 2015, 07:42 AM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
I agree! Shaggy Hiker is the gold standard of pun making and I was about to strike gold with mine. A little bit of humor is good for the soul. Sometimes mine are better then his but rarely. Strip away humor and we are lost.
Are we talking about one legged fish, now?
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Jul 10th, 2015, 08:07 AM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
I'm missing the reference?
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Jul 10th, 2015, 10:15 AM
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Jul 10th, 2015, 12:49 PM
#28
Re: Bitcoin Mining
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
I have a punning clan.
Your avatar looks like a pineapple.
I don't live here any more.
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Jul 10th, 2015, 04:41 PM
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Nov 11th, 2020, 09:52 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Looking back on this you’d have roughly a 5718% increase in the valuation of Bitcoin.
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Nov 12th, 2020, 04:06 PM
#31
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Originally Posted by wossname
No. Just no. Do not do this.
It is several years since the mining efficiency threshold was passed by. It now costs more than 1 bitcoin in electric bills to mine 1 bitcoin.
Bitcoin is deliberately designed to be resistant to improvements in hardware power over the years. This is what gives bitcoin it's intrinsic value. They are hard to get and therefore they are valuable.
The whole thing is a huge scam.
Nobody should listen to this guy, he's a complete crackpot and probably has illegal shares in the CIA and the Illuminati.
His handsome demeanor should be disregarded, also.
Edit: Can someone lend me $15,000 please? I'm asking for a friend you see...
Last edited by wossy; Nov 12th, 2020 at 04:13 PM.
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Nov 12th, 2020, 04:13 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Well, he's certainly looking pretty hirsute.
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Nov 14th, 2020, 02:14 PM
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Re: Bitcoin Mining
Looking back on this you’d have roughly a 5718% increase in the valuation of Bitcoin
True, but you'd have made it from investing rather than mining. I wouldn't have, though, because I've been predicting it would collapse for years
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Nov 17th, 2020, 01:11 PM
#34
Re: Bitcoin Mining
Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
I've been predicting it would collapse for years
it will at one point. so keep going.
but for now, its worth to note that there had only been 5 days in history where bitcoin was worth more than today.
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