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    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante View Post
    I always assumed that most denizens of the U.S. who obsess over the British Monarchy are just engaging in a sort of Soap Opera/People Magazine effect. A form of mental illness, like listening to people singing with false twangs and drawls accompanied by clattering washboard, jug huffing, and steel guitar about topics such as infidelity and old dogs (Country/Western music) as entertainment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dilettante View Post
    I always assumed that most denizens of the U.S. who obsess over the British Monarchy are just engaging in a sort of Soap Opera/People Magazine effect. A form of mental illness, like listening to people singing with false twangs and drawls accompanied by clattering washboard, jug huffing, and steel guitar about topics such as infidelity and old dogs (Country/Western music) as entertainment.
    I have to admit that I thought the same, especially having never seen the Queen attend a cabinet meeting before, although I am now quite accustomed to turning on my TV and seeing Conan "Big" O'Brien, Larry King, Dr Phil, or Charlie Brown's Snoopy Dogg making the soundtrack more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqUAI4Ewi08, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6QBeryMyYc. Older classic royal soundtracks include the Bee Gees (variant of bejesus/bejeezus) which is likely a reference to Melissa a variant of Elizabeth/Lisa meaning bee due to the focus on a lead falsetto vocal, and of course the ubiquitous Freddy Mercury and his band Queen.

    After becoming more aware of the widespread prevalence of monarchiaphilia I have actually found it more difficult to identify music that is not, in one way or another, monarchistic at the root level.
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    You're going off the deep end and seeing things that really aren't there.

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    Charlie Brown's Snoopy Dogg
    Snoop Dogg is not the same as Charlie Brown's dog, Snoopy. While the rapper probably took the name of the dog, the two aren't the same.

    Older classic royal soundtracks include the Bee Gees (variant of bejesus/bejeezus)
    Or, rather than being a variant of something vaguely religious, it could just be a phonetic spelling of BG's, which stands for the Brothers Gibb, since that's what the Bee Gees were (Barry, Robin, and Maurice Gibb).
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    You're going off the deep end and seeing things that really aren't there.
    Snoop Dogg is not the same as Charlie Brown's dog, Snoopy. While the rapper probably took the name of the dog, the two aren't the same.
    "Broadus' parents nicknamed him "Snoopy" as a child because of his appearance, but usually addressed him as Calvin at home." source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoop_Dogg
    What other Snoopy is there?


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    Or, rather than being a variant of something vaguely religious, it could just be a phonetic spelling of BG's, which stands for the Brothers Gibb, since that's what the Bee Gees were (Barry, Robin, and Maurice Gibb).
    "First called the Rattlesnakes, later Wee Johnny Hayes & the Bluecats, they were introduced to radio DJ Bill Gates by racetrack promoter Bill Goode (who saw them perform at Brisbane's original Archerfield Speedway in 1959). Gates renamed them the "Bee Gees" after his, Goode's, and Barry Gibb's initials – thus the name was not specifically a reference to "Brothers Gibb", despite popular belief." source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_Gees
    Bees buzz like the queen, and Gee is a shortening of Jesus: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gee, or in long form: Bee Jesus. Even if you leave Gees as meaning the plural of the letter G, the Bee still points straight at the queen especially with their name and careers beginning in Queensland Australia and Barry Gibb's falsetto lead vocal.
    The Bee Gees' Hall of Fame citation says "Only Elvis Presley, The Beatles, Michael Jackson, Garth Brooks and Paul McCartney have outsold the Bee Gees."
    Elvis Presley was, of course, "the King".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker View Post
    You're going off the deep end and seeing things that really aren't there.
    It's taken you that long to realise this?

    I have a sneaking suspicion that this is a long, elaborate, and fairly pointless wind-up by Witis.
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    It's taken you that long to realise this?

    I have a sneaking suspicion that this is a long, elaborate, and fairly pointless wind-up by Witis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleDuncan View Post
    It's taken you that long to realise this?

    I have a sneaking suspicion that this is a long, elaborate, and fairly pointless wind-up by Witis.
    Actually, if you refer back to my, rather cryptic, statement in post #8, I realized it as soon as I recognized who the OP was (it took me a few posts to remember, though): There is an underlying order to all things such that a heirarchical listing can be formed in such a way that for any two items A and B, the truth of the function A>B can be known. That's the Witis way.
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    "First called the Rattlesnakes, later Wee Johnny Hayes & the Bluecats, they were introduced to radio DJ Bill Gates by racetrack promoter Bill Goode (who saw them perform at Brisbane's original Archerfield Speedway in 1959). Gates renamed them the "Bee Gees" after his, Goode's, and Barry Gibb's initials – thus the name was not specifically a reference to "Brothers Gibb", despite popular belief." source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_Gees
    Bees buzz like the queen, and Gee is a shortening of Jesus: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gee, or in long form: Bee Jesus. Even if you leave Gees as meaning the plural of the letter G, the Bee still points straight at the queen especially with their name and careers beginning in Queensland Australia and Barry Gibb's falsetto lead vocal.
    That's a hoot. You say it's initials in the first half of the quote (though not for Brothers Gibb), then go right on and say that actually you can infer that it is a religious reference in direct contradiction to the original quote, and without any relevant support.
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    There is an underlying order to all things [...] That's the Witis way.
    Which is infinitely better than an underlying pitch blackness of entropy I might add.
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    That's a hoot. You say it's initials in the first half of the quote (though not for Brothers Gibb), then go right on and say that actually you can infer that it is a religious reference in direct contradiction to the original quote, and without any relevant support.
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    If you read all of the Gs referred to in that quote you will see that one of the Gees is Good, Bill Goode in fact. Good From Middle English good, from Old English gōd which frequently refers to the Christian god i.e Jesus. So arguably one of the Gees does include a reference to Jesus.

    Another one for you: the host of PBS Newshour is Charlie's cousin Jeffrey Brown.
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    All things considered, I think that the best response to that is probably: What?????
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    Charlie's cousins,
    Jeffrey Brown who quite often anchors the PBS newshour: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/aboutus/bio_brown.html,
    and from across the other side of the Atlantic his other British cousin Derren: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derren_Brown.
    Perhaps I have to do a side to side so that you can see the family resemblance?
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    Family resemblance to who? I thought we were talking about a cartoon character, now you are on about real folks. What Charlie are they cousins to?

    And, I guess I might add: How does this relate to anything else you have said at any time in this thread? I fail to see how a family resemblance of two people to some hypothetical Charlie has anything to do with whatever it is your point might be?
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    What Wit Witis, What Whit!
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    Family resemblance to who? I thought we were talking about a cartoon character, now you are on about real folks. What Charlie are they cousins to?

    And, I guess I might add: How does this relate to anything else you have said at any time in this thread? I fail to see how a family resemblance of two people to some hypothetical Charlie has anything to do with whatever it is your point might be?
    Don't leave out the rest of the family including Sally and Gordon.
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    Was there ever a point?
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    Charlie's Angels, Charlie's Brown, Charlie's Cuisine, Charlie's Garden, Charlie's wot and Charlie's wit ...

    I wonder if there's a song in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker View Post
    Was there ever a point?
    Quote Originally Posted by honeybee View Post
    I wonder if there's a song in there.
    Here is a song that probably ties it altogether for you Shaggy, well at least in the case of Gordy anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv7HNAtCH74
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    Today, the 20th of January 2013, is the official inauguration of Barrack Obama into his second term in office (done at noon on Jan 20th, ceremony on the 21st). The first three letters of his surname Oba mean king or supreme ruler in Yoruba. "The title of 'Oba' was created by Oba Eweka I, the kingdom's first 'Oba'. The current capital is Benin City, which is in modern day Nigeria" making the current title: Oba of Big Benin. As Obas generally wear beaded crowns I am hopeful that he will wear one for the ceremony tomorrow. Either way I am sure he will be congratulated by his British brethren.
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    The word "catatonic" starts with the word "cat", which refers to a feline animal in English. Worshipped as symbols of dieties in ancient Egypt, the cat is often seen as a domestic animal these days, though the word is used to refer to all of the felines in various contexts. No doubt, making a tonic out of a cat would have a totally strange result, but whether the fact that the word "catatonic" begins with the word "cat" really indicates that there is some relationship between the two words is highly doubtful.
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    The word "catatonic" starts with the word "cat", which refers to a feline animal in English. Worshipped as symbols of dieties in ancient Egypt, the cat is often seen as a domestic animal these days, though the word is used to refer to all of the felines in various contexts.
    I agree Shaggy it is a catastrophe. You can't put a member of the Miami Dolphins in front of me, Rudolph by the looks of it, who has publicly admitted to regularly using cocaine, call it a cat and expect me to believe you. Sooner or later the public is going to realise that there are a lot of blue/brown bloods pretending to be demo-cats in order to get their hands on as much power and do as much blow as they possibly can. Fortunately in a democracy the president works for the people not the other way around, so mush Oba mush!

    The last time they tried that on me I asked for an analog (paper) voting slip, took my own pen instead of using the pencils they supply to prevent them using erasers in the counting room (there is no way they are getting my vote), and placed an F beside the relevant politicians names.
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    Your mental timing belt has jumped a few teeth. I can barely make any sense out of that last post, and what little I can make out is hard to understand. If it was meant as free-verse, then good show, you are ready for the Golden Chair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker View Post
    Your mental timing belt has jumped a few teeth.
    Only for the doggies for which the last post was, no doubt, a real howler. After all of that effort to get his hands on the most amount of power available in the U.S and to then, at the end of the process, discover that he is still just working for the public and has not actually managed to take over the world or even a small part of it has to be a real anti climax. He recently said in relation to gun control that "I’ll use whatever power this office holds" which, as far as I can tell, and no matter how many Bruce Springsteen songs he plays in his office, transliterates as: "Miami's down, I need more power; where can I find more power?".
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    The age that I was talking about was age taylor, who was most likely far more identifiable on this part of the lake than was the King of Britain during the same interval.

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    I go away for a week and and return to... wow... just... just... wow.

    WOW is an expression of surprise. Regular expressions can be used to succinctly define patterns of characters. Witis is a bit of a character. Ergo, we should be surprised by Witis.
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    WB FunkyDexter, I've got one for you: Kim Kardashian who is currently dating Kanye West. Let me know if you need a hint.
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    A hint about what, might I ask? If it is about either a Kardashian or Kanye West, then I have no iterest. If it is a hint unrelated to those two names, then it might be of interest.
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    What no takers???? I can't believe that there aren't any Trekky fans.
    Kardashian is a homophone and variant of Cardassian, one of the extraterrestrial species in Star Trek.
    Kanye West is an anagram of West Kenya.

    "Cardassians tend to be predatory in nature, like wolves always seeking a dominant position in social gatherings."
    "males take up military careers", "the scientific community is mostly female" [it's a bit of a drag]

    "Cardassian society is often depicted as being Orwellian, with strict government control over information and violent force. Denizens are shown as having unquestioning obedience to authority due to the general lack of human rights, which provides a contrast to the personal protections of the Federation. For example, in Cardassian criminal trials the defendant is presumed guilty and in fact the punishment is already decided before the trial begins; the purpose of the trial (effectively a show trial) is merely to help the defendant acknowledge his wrongdoing. In Cardassian mystery novels, everyone is always guilty, the puzzle being to work out who is guilty of what."

    "Cardassian literature often confounds humans, and vice versa. For example, humans see all Cardassian mystery stories as having an identical plot: the inevitable result is that all the suspects are eventually proved guilty of the crime and proving the supremacy of the state."
    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardassian.

    Kanye sounds like this; turn off the lights and turn it up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3af4Gz4Daw
    The rapper in the intro has the stage name Ricky Ross which was derived from Ricky Ross the cocaine drug dealer, who, in 1996, was sentenced to life imprisonment after being convicted of trying to purchase more than 100 kilograms of Charlie Brown from a federal agent.

    How you were not able to see the link between Kim and Kanye, especially after she announced at the end of 2012 that she is pregnant with the couple's first child, is beyond me.
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    I recommend you watch a 70s quiz show called 321. Your connections are only marginally les tenuous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witis View Post
    "Cardassians tend to be predatory in nature, like wolves always seeking a dominant position in social gatherings."
    Well, that DOES sound like Kardashian nature, but the rest doesn't.

    How you were not able to see the link between Kim and Kanye, especially after she announced at the end of 2012 that she is pregnant with the couple's first child, is beyond me.
    It is quite obvious, by now, that this thing is only one minor star in a large constellation.
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    I recommend you watch a 70s quiz show called 321.
    Good one, I have already mentioned Stephen Fry the monarchiaphilic host of QI, and now you have pointed out Ted Rogers the jolly host of 3-2-1.
    Love the animated cartoon intro, watch it and a corker of a "not to be sniffed at" dog joke at the beginning of the the 'Carribean' show in 1982: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehZUhMERB58.

    Other well known monarchiaphilic Rogers include:
    "Shaggy" Rogers and Shaggy's pet great dane, Scooby-Scooby-Doo
    The truth about scooby snacks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdbZZFO4CEk
    Fun Lovin Criminals - Scooby Snacks.

    Roger Moore (one of the Bond, James Bonds)
    Norman Rogers (born August 25, 1966), a retired American DJ best known for his work with rap group Public Enemy and his second solo album "Super Bad".
    Kenny Rogers country singer known for the gambler and singing with Dolly Parton.
    Ginger Rogers (and Fred Astaire)
    Roger Bannister, British athlete, first man to run the four minute mile.
    Roger Ramjet, cartoon superhero.
    Johny Rogers who wrote the first draft of the script for the live-action movie Transformers, released in 2007 which arguably sums up the entire transformers franchise.
    Roger Murtaugh, cop played by Danny Glover in the Lethal Weapon movies.
    In the 1996 movie Independence Day, the virus that Jeff Goldblum uploads to the alien mothership is called jollyroger.exe.
    Roger Federers' tears of joy when he wins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-uqnRjRYRE
    Desirée Glapion Rogers (born June 16, 1959) was selected by Barack Obama's office as the White House Social Secretary for the incoming administration in 2009, the first person of African American descent to serve in this function.
    Kanye West bought Jay-Z a solid gold skull for father's day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24tI4lXARvE
    Steve Rogers the fictional Captain America.
    Roger the Alien, fictional character from American Dad! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_(American_Dad)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker View Post
    Well, that DOES sound like Kardashian nature, but the rest doesn't.
    Even so the whole West Kenya Cardassian thing, i.e obviating human rights and thar she really blows, has serious night terror potential.
    Moreover such an approach has even been tried by Charles Taylor, 22nd President of Liberia, who received a degree from Big Bentley College in the United States.

    In 1983 Taylor was a government official (director of Liberia's General Services Administration) who was removed from his position and accused of of embezzling nearly a million dollars by the Samuel Doe Liberian government (21st President). After fleeing to the U.S he was arrested in 1984 and was held awaiting extradition to face charges in Liberia; instead he escaped in 1985 and made his way back to Africa and formed the National Patriotic Front of Liberia which invaded Liberia in 1989 birthing the country's first civil war which ultimately culminated in Doe's execution on September the 9th 1990. After Doe's execution Taylor was elected president in 1997 by intimidating the population into believing that he would continue the war unless he made it into office. Source: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...Ghankay-Taylor

    Once Charles Taylor was president he then proceeded to do quite a lot more Charlie Brown and tried to blow like a Cardassian.
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    Doe, a deer, a female deer
    Ray, a drop or golden sun
    My mum's name is Ray
    She's very deer to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyDexter View Post
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    Once Charles Taylor was president he then proceeded to do quite a lot more Charlie Brown and tried to blow like a Cardassian.
    For example he supported the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) in the Sierra Leone Civil War by selling them weapons for blood diamonds, assisting in the recruitment of child soldiers, and directing RUF RUF operations against civilians in Sierra Leone which left "many thousands dead or mutilated, with unknown numbers of people abducted and tortured".

    In response the Special Court for Sierra Leone charged Charles Taylor with war crimes in March 2003 which led to Taylor's resignation on the 11th of August 2003. After resigning he left Liberia and moved to Nigeria; however, when Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, the newly elected President of Liberia, had her extradition request acknowledged by Nigeria in March 2006 he tried escaping across the Nigerian border into Cameroon. He was arrested at the border in his Range Rover which was found to be full of cash and heroin, and sent to stand trial in the Hague.

    At trial evidence emerged that Taylor had also ordered human sacrifices and cannibalism.

    On the 26 April 2012 he was convicted of the following crimes:
    - Acts of terrorism
    - Murder
    - Violence to life health and physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular murder
    - Rape
    - Pillage
    - Conscripting or enlisting children under the age of 15 years into armed forces or groups, or using them to participate actively in hostilities
    - Sexual slavery and any other form of sexual violence
    - Enslavement
    - Outrages upon personal dignity; Violence to life, health and physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular cruel treatment
    - Other inhumane acts.

    Taylor was sentenced to 50 years in prison for trying to do so many drugs in a country with a name meaning free haven (liber "free" + -ia "place").
    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles...an_politician)
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    I have to add that 50 years immured in a maximum security lockup is almost always a fate worse than death, in case you thought that losing your head like Charles I was the worst that could happen to anyone.
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    How do you know?

    I would try interviewing both groups after 50 years, but I hear that the executed group tends to be very uncooperative.
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    How do you know?
    For example there are anecdotal reports, of some repute I might add, that Charles Taylor's favourite song is now Dick Dale's version of Johnny Cash's "Ring of Fire".
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