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    Ownership Of Code etc.

    MartinLiss and I have checked this with the admins, and they never intended to take ownership of the code.
    That clause just happened to appear in the AUP.

    They have never had this issue before at CodeGuru, so that's why they did not forsee any problems.

    They agree that for them to take ownership of your code is not right.
    The AUP is being changed to non-exclusive, which means that you retain the rights to use your code however you wish.


    The AUP page should be updated within a day or two.
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    plenderj you da man

    code guru must be a bunch of suckers

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    Just a quick hello

    Well done Jamie!

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    I shouldn't get the credit on this.
    Martin's actually the one who raised the issue with the admins.

    I just added my two cents on the matter, and created this thread.
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    Originally posted by plenderj
    I shouldn't get the credit on this.
    Martin's actually the one who raised the issue with the admins.

    I just added my two cents on the matter, and created this thread.
    thanks
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    Originally posted by KarlMoore
    Just a quick hello

    Well done Jamie!

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    Re: Ownership Of Code etc.

    Originally posted by plenderj
    MartinLiss and I have checked this with the admins, and they never intended to take ownership of the code.
    That clause just happened to appear in the AUP.

    They have never had this issue before at CodeGuru, so that's why they did not forsee any problems.

    They agree that for them to take ownership of your code is not right.
    The AUP is being changed to non-exclusive, which means that you retain the rights to use your code however you wish.


    The AUP page should be updated within a day or two.
    So what, now my code's not good enough for them to take?!? That's it, I'm outta here...Who's with me?

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    Re: Re: Ownership Of Code etc.

    Originally posted by crptcblade
    So what, now my code's not good enough for them to take?!? That's it, I'm outta here...Who's with me?

    yeah lets go... they must think our code is all a bunch of crap.. thats why they changed their minds at the last minute.. they were looking for good code to sell and didn't find any

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    Yes, they've changed the AUP. You now have to pay if you want them to use your code without asking..

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    By copyright laws state that whoever submits their work to a company or interprise is protected by the submitter. If a company takes claim to a individual's work there is huge lawsuit from $250 to $5,000,000! If the submitter gives permission to user the individual's work than that company must take credit to the submitter.
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    So if i get this right, we should be happy we are such crappy programmers? Well anyways, i think it is good that they change the AUP, either way

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    great... now to get rid of my black avatar
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    Well, I can rest easy now that the crusade to accomplish nothing is finally over.
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    So there still going to use our code?
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    Originally posted by plenderj
    I shouldn't get the credit on this.
    Martin's actually the one who raised the issue with the admins.

    I just added my two cents on the matter, and created this thread.
    Thanks Martin and Jamie, But I like my balck avatar so im keeping it
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    Originally posted by Q_Me
    By copyright laws state that whoever submits their work to a company or interprise is protected by the submitter. If a company takes claim to a individual's work there is huge lawsuit from $250 to $5,000,000! If the submitter gives permission to user the individual's work than that company must take credit to the submitter.
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    All your code are belong to me

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    Originally posted by kleinma
    holy crapoly... KarlMoore does exist
    the holy one has sp0ken

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    lol

    Just sitting back and giggling at people now getting angry that their code *hasn't* been nicked.

    BTW, can I check whether an official announcement has been made RE the changes at the Network? There were releases on Yahoo! Finance and so on (see www.whitecliff.net) but I'm unsure as to whether everyone has been properly told.

    I'm a little concerned as to how this how thing has been approached.


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    No official announcements that I noticed, and no emails...
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    well well, isn't this interesting

    Sterling job boys

    So how many euros did you make outta this one then Karl? I especially like the "buy from John, spin some corporate rubbish about 'improvments' and future direction, sell to highest bidder" line. Worked a treat...

    Bit of a hot potato this place isn't it

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    Originally posted by crptcblade
    Well, I can rest easy now that the crusade to accomplish nothing is finally over.
    Me too, I've even had to dismiss my Prozac dealer.

    This episode was a lesson in democracy... the vast majority was too apathetic to notice... a small minority ranted and raved... and the head honchos did nothing but made it look like they did something
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    Well, at least it got them to say they did something about it.

    Last time I clicked myself, the AUP hasn't changed, but plenderj did say it might take a couple of days.

    The good news is, at least it's now owned by USAmericans!
    No More American Bashing!


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    Originally posted by chrisjk
    well well, isn't this interesting

    Sterling job boys

    So how many euros did you make outta this one then Karl? I especially like the "buy from John, spin some corporate rubbish about 'improvments' and future direction, sell to highest bidder" line. Worked a treat...

    Bit of a hot potato this place isn't it
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    Good choice Nic I think Chris is even more cynical than I am, which takes some doing...
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    Originally posted by Pix
    I love you

    Awwwwwwwwwww cute :love:





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    whats all this about then??

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    A little run in with the commie-nazis and their attempt to take over the known world with what has vaguely been referred to as the "lost ark".

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    keh??

    I gather something about code you post on here andf ownership!
    Anyone want to clarify it?

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    There was a big stink about the new owners having exclusive license over any code posted here from the beginning to the end of time. It's been changed though, so everything is honkey-dory.

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    bah for that to happen you'd have to sign up again anyway.
    They couldnt just change the rules!

    thanks crpt!

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    I'm sorry if communication has been a little poor these past few days. I have had to sit quietly in the background whilst internet.com make the official announcement, however I want you all to know I'm alive and kicking.

    Ya can't get rid of me that easily, y'know.

    And ChrisJK... think you're awfully unfair

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    Originally posted by KarlMoore
    I'm sorry if communication has been a little poor these past few days. I have had to sit quietly in the background whilst internet.com make the official announcement, however I want you all to know I'm alive and kicking.

    Ya can't get rid of me that easily, y'know.

    And ChrisJK... think you're awfully unfair

    KM
    pfffftt your just jealous that pix loves him!

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    Re: Ownership Of Code etc.

    Originally posted by plenderj
    ....The AUP is being changed to non-exclusive, which means that you retain the rights to use your code however you wish.
    Well, even though the AUP has changed, now that I looked at the Legal Notices, as quoted in my signature, isn't there a confict between the two?

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    I say crash their stoopid company, come join GalahTech !
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    Originally posted by NotLKH
    So, I guess you were too busy to answer my last post today,
    or you just don't care about this?
    Sorry I delete most of the reply notification emails I get.
    If someone wants to contact me badly they can PM me

    Anyway um there's no quote in your signature...
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    Thats ok.

    I was concerned about the legal notices, where it says:

    YOU MAY NOT MODIFY, COPY, REPRODUCE, REPUBLISH, UPLOAD, POST, TRANSMIT, OR DISTRIBUTE, IN ANY MANNER, THE MATERIAL ON THE SITE, INCLUDING TEXT, GRAPHICS, CODE AND/OR SOFTWARE
    But, as I've been informed, it must pertain to the actual physical code of the website itself, along with its textual and graphical design.

    So, thanks!
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