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    The Chit Chat forums are now an embarrassment...

    It is with great sadness that I announce I'm not bothering with VBF CC anymore.

    It's a joke in here. Recently these forums have been going steadily downhill, especially Chit Chat.

    The maturity/intelligence/decency level of people on here has plummeted, and I no longer want any part of it.

    I'm going to be retreating to the other forums, and if necessary I'll barricade myself in the Sentience threads to avoid the plankton that floats around in here. Should even that fail, I'll relocate.

    It's sad, but that's the way it is.

    John - what have you allowed to happen here...?
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    Having a bad morning?




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    No my friend, simply saddened by how bad these forums have got recently.
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    I sadly only pop in now and then these days, after a while off. It doesn't seem to be much different, other than there don't seem to be as many joke(r)s knocking about. Oh, and there's a bunch of people i don't know.



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    see you around!

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    Can I join your goodbye thread?

    Geez, not so long ago remember takin' the mickey on Jethro for doing this, but yeah, it's seriously lost momentum here these days.

    On to greener pastures, hey Ben?
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    RJ,

    Indeed. I think we'll struggle to find a vb forum as good as this in its heyday though.

    Crptcblade,

    I've been like that for a while, but reading some of the tripe posted on here recently just pushed me out...
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    Part of the problem is that every-so-often you get an exodus to another forum. The regulars migrate, leaving one or two crackpots posting nonsense.

    If the numbers came back to normal, it'd be the same old place.

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    I don't have a problem with the content here, just the availability. That's the only reason I headed for Galah - this place was always broken.

    Unfortunately, most of the people who moved off aren't coming back very often.
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    I disagree.

    I don't see chit chat as any more childish or immature, or full of crackpots as when
    you guys were "in your prime." The only difference is that you had some sort
    of connection with everyone, so when they told a stupid joke, you thought is was
    funny. Now, that you don't know a handle, you think the same crap is not funny.

    Yes, it's changed in that the connection is probalby gone, and probably gone for good,
    it will never be the same, but all in all if it were the same, it wouldn't be
    any good.

    Personally, I don't see much difference other than a change of names.



    oh, and a lot more scientologists.
    Merry Christmas

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    Originally posted by JPicasso
    I disagree.

    I don't see chit chat as any more childish or immature, or full of crackpots as when
    you guys were "in your prime." The only difference is that you had some sort
    of connection with everyone, so when they told a stupid joke, you thought is was
    funny. Now, that you don't know a handle, you think the same crap is not funny.

    Yes, it's changed in that the connection is probalby gone, and probably gone for good,
    it will never be the same, but all in all if it were the same, it wouldn't be
    any good.

    Personally, I don't see much difference other than a change of names.



    oh, and a lot more scientologists.
    ...and the fact that last friday evening there were two people on Chit Chat

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    Plus I think that many 'regulars' found their home in a forum (youknowwhichone) that was for once not aimed to be a spin-off of VBF and actually quite like it there. Can't be helped really. I sometimes pop in to see that it is virtually deserted in here.
    And it used to be good fun. Now it's just not as interesting as it once was.
    I really only have a problem with the spammers and some morons. And they are mostly on ignore
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    Ya, being down for the greater part of the month certainly didn't help this place.

    but it'll pick up provided there isn't anymore server moves.
    or updates,
    or lightning storms,
    or weevols in the wiring,
    or they accidentally turn off the computers,
    or sombody sneezes on the server,
    or it's Monday.



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    Hmmmm,

    Maybe I'm beginning to see....
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    I don't think it's down to the connectivity between people.

    When I first started, I didn't know anyone - but there was a sense of community between people who were here.

    There's none of that now. All there is is abuse, flaming, spamming, faking peoples user ID's to take the piss out of them, kiddies, religious nuts.

    The only bit of community I saw here was a thread here by IanP about Gaffer - most everything else is people attacking other people.
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    Originally posted by Arbiter
    I don't think it's down to the connectivity between people.

    When I first started, I didn't know anyone - but there was a sense of community between people who were here.

    There's none of that now. All there is is abuse, flaming, spamming, faking peoples user ID's to take the piss out of them, kiddies, religious nuts.

    The only bit of community I saw here was a thread here by IanP about Gaffer - most everything else is people attacking other people.

    that`s kind of sad actualy
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    Hmmm?

    I'm kind of sad?
    This state of affairs is sad?
    The people responsible are sad?
    Or you're generally unhappy?
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    Originally posted by Arbiter
    Hmmm?

    I'm kind of sad?
    This state of affairs is sad?
    The people responsible are sad?
    Or you're generally unhappy?
    The state of the forum and of the entire affair, your disapointment is saddening..
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    It is rather.

    Was such a nice place here as well....
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    Originally posted by Arbiter

    There's none of that now. All there is is abuse, flaming, spamming, faking peoples user ID's to take the piss out of them, kiddies, religious nuts.
    is that suppose to be good or bad?
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    Would you like some cheese with your whine?


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    Originally posted by Pix
    It's all Pixie's fault
    I'd probably blame the gremlins first.
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    Originally posted by DiGiTaIErRoR
    Would you like some cheese with your whine?

    cheese with wine? All we are missing is the honey
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    Arbiter, you read my mind. I was about to post something almost exactly like this to FF last night. I have actually seen this trend before... On Battle.net. Couple of years ago, it was a great place to go and chat. Then it just slowly died. I think the whole problem could really be solved with a couple more moderators.

    I have to agree, the whole situation is sad.

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    Originally posted by Arbiter
    The only bit of community I saw here was a thread here by IanP about Gaffer - most everything else is people attacking other people.
    mate, I'd be out of here if I had somewhere to go...

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    *scratches head*

    *wonders if he is the cause for all VBF misery*
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    I suspect that people of your ilk have had some effect.

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    For a communtiy/forum to be effective, there needs to be more contributors as opposed to reactions to individual threads. As a lot of us are at work we don't often have time to create original threads. As the number of (positive) contributors dwindles, so the forum becomes more bare and banal.

    Its a shame as I enjoyed many of the threads on this board (Diplomacy etc). Its all a bit cack now.
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    Gaff, you've joined the forums for intelligent people haven't you?

    True, it's not VB related, but the forums here still manage to provide that service for the time being.

    I'm leaving chit chat when this thread dies and moving over to DF's place for the community feel. As far as I'm concerned, this place has ceased to be somewhere with an atmosphere and is now merely a resource.

    Sad, but true.
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    Originally posted by Arbiter
    Gaff, you've joined the forums for intelligent people haven't you?

    True, it's not VB related, but the forums here still manage to provide that service for the time being.

    I'm leaving chit chat when this thread dies and moving over to DF's place for the community feel. As far as I'm concerned, this place has ceased to be somewhere with an atmosphere and is now merely a resource.

    Sad, but true.
    Can't at work - I'm proxied out

    Intend to hold the fort here

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    'sad' has been repeated exactly 17 times in this thread till now.. how bout using something else instead?
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    Happy happy joy joy!
    Happy happy joy joy!
    Happy happy joy joy!
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    Happy happy joy joy!
    Happy happy joy joy!
    Happy happy joy joy!
    Happy happy joy joy!
    Happy happy joy joy joy joy!

    dun da de dun dum, dun dum!

    JOY!

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    ok.. 'happy' has been repeated 18 times... i think we need another change now...
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    Uhm...

    The Bible is bulls**t. The Koran is a lie. The Bhagavad Gita did not fall from a sky. These are the books that were written by man. They cause wars! Now follow if you can!

    They took away out love and gave us fear! Tried to make us hate the ones who put us here. They took sacred songs and made them wrong. They took away out prays and gave us theirs!

    They created sin so they could win, so they could build the cages that they put us in! Then they took away our tribes and gave us jails. They took away the Earth and gave us Hell!

    It's time for you to love another. It's time for you to recognize your brother. It's time for us to stop killing our mother. It's time for us to care of eachother.

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    i wonda how we made it from 'sad VBF' to religious books.. or could there be a connection?
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    It was the song I was listening to at the time.

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    Originally posted by DiGiTaIErRoR
    It was the song I was listening to at the time.
    now dont tell me Aribiter and J4U formed a band?
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    Oh geez. Christian music makes me want to kill myself.

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