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Server is a (lower-power) quad-core xeon (clocking up to 2.4GHz or something, 8GB Ram and SSD-HD) -
run within a (VMWare-based) HyperVisor in a rack of a larger Online-Provider here in germany -...

Ughh, come on, really...?
Again, I'm talking about the deployment of the framework (which these days usually happens via Windows-Update).

When I mention "download-time", then this is directly...

I'm obviously talking about Class-Frameworks (not Applications).

And then I was using this kind of "larger task" (the resulting binaries of these Class-Frameworks) -
to compare their...

Not as hard as for example "feeding correct instructions via e.g. LLVM"...

For C (not C++) one has only a handful of "Keywords and Operators" to learn:
- much less (to become "fluent"), compared...

Let me requote myself:
...here an objective technological analysis (based on Apples vs Apples - comparing the two frameworks):
- class-coverage for modern App-Dev scenarios? (nearly identical - ...

Well, I honestly doubt, that "the public" would buy the fast-food-junk,
if healthy food was available at the same price.

In that regard - please note, that not even Mc-Donalds was ever going as...

What "the public" really wants, is - for example - healthy food...
What "the public" really gets, is - heavily advertised fast-food-junk ("Burgers, Fries 'n Coke").

And on top of the advertising,...

Ohh ... seems stuff like that indeed leaves an impression...
(will have to consider that in my next RC6-Demos, I guess) ;)

Olaf

IMO there's no need to test it (when it comes to replacing VB6) because:
- it does not support Classes (nor does it support Class-raised Events)
- it does not support Debugging
- the IDE is...

No, that's not "life" - that's "the big lie"... (at least as far .NET "technology" is concerned).

For years they were selling you big, unwieldy Rubber-Anvils, and Rubber-Hammers - to forge your...

What you mean is probably, to use VB6 for parsing/tokenizing + AST-building -
and then you willl have to produce:
- FreeBasic intermediate-code from the parsed AST
- which you will have to...

Of course... as soon as we compare "Apples with Apples" (ClassFramework with other ClassFramework) -
then we wouldn't find many differences (in functionality and coding-efforts in the languages,...

That's wrong.

It takes significantly less code (and time), to make functional identical (CommonControls-compatible)
RC6-Widgets.

The reason for that is, that there's no need:
- to "fight...

Well, so far you always bowed out, when I asked you to prove your claims with .NET example-code.

Just saying...

Olaf

Yes, it will be the default-theme in the next releases...
(and I'll probably integrate most vbWidgets-Classes into the RC6 directly as well).

RC5 + the matching vbWidgets.dll will still default...

Not sure whether you noticed... but I've already included a nice helper-function in the cdecl-call-module:

GetBStrFromPtr(lpSrc&, Optional ByVal ANSI As Boolean) As String

In the concrete case...

What a friendly soul you are...

And quite funny (coming from a "grown man, who still plays with Pokemon-cards")... ;)

Olaf

It is ... because any IDE and compiler-replacement will need new Runtime-Classes and -Functions.

You can of course decide, to develop all these Classes (again) from scratch (good luck, add another...

You do not know, what you're talking about.
We do this "all the time" currently (but have to rent a twice as expensive Win-OS-Hostmachine, to be able to).
The "higher rent" is worthwhile...

No, this is completely wrong.
We are talking about significantly less work, when the IDE would be written, based on the RC6 (and the already existing Widgets).

Furthermore, 100%...

Not at all, because the entire glue-code (including Declares to the Win32-API, if somebody doesn't want to write platform-independent VB6-Code)
will be 100% compatible (as long as it sits in *.bas...

Exactly - but a modern and well-written platform/tech stack is necessary (underneath any new language, when it shall have any chance of success).

The RC6-lib provides such a stack already.
And...

I disagree.

Since we talk about a new compiler ... VB6 is a first and foremost a language, which was made to primarily:
- glue COM-libs together
- but also to produce ones own COM-libs the easy...

I fully agree with that requirement or goal.
Platform-independence is the most important thing for a new compiler (and especially IDE),
with regards to "long-term-attractiveness" (for new...

Hint for your google-fu:
- when you search info for VB6
- put a [... -.NET] to the end of your search-input

This will route you more directly to "the good bits"... ;)

Olaf

Well, guess there's still hope ... ;)

Olaf

As I wrote in #16...
In "file-write-direction", the Value of the String-Variable sTimeDelta is equivalent to:
sTimeDelta = Str(Now - mStartTime)

So, what about using a single additional line in...

No, because adding an additional single code-line for your new to introduce String-Variable sTimeDelta
(into each of the two code-blocks) - should be utterly trivial - even for a VB-beginner.

Olaf

What's there to help with, when you are already able, to save and load "other values" to a textfile?

The Value you need to save into your TextFile (as a String... in Form_Unload) is:
sTimeDelta...

Why not leave it in the registry as it is?
(the registry-branch starts with "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\..." - and thus will ensure User-specific App-Settings - per "Logged on User")

And in case you want...

The code you got from Sam was not optimally written -
(and it changed, what we already had established as a reliable "time-delta-visualization" in a prior thread).

Here is the code again...
...

The module is basically the same one, which works under the cover of the vbRichClient-COM-lib
(where these call-supporting Methods sit behind a COM-Class - and are accessible via...

You could also place your Device-Dll in a "Bin-Path" - relative to the Executable...
(that's what I usually prefer, to make Apps XCopy-deployable from a Zip).
Your Dll-Path-specifier could then be...

You can call cdecl-defined functions also without compiling to a native-binary first,
when you use the DispCallFunc-API (no "hacking" needed) - e.g. via the module below:


Option Explicit
...

Not when t is of type Date (since Int returns Variant, and tries to preserve the Input-Type).

Olaf

This cache-class allows a high-quality upscaling/downscaling at load-time,
so if you have a higher-res image already on disk (like e.g. the 128x128 image "\Res\Png2.png" from the Demo-Zip),
you...

No, there was nothing wrong in his original expression (which holds the TimeDiff in a Date-Variable t):

Label1.Caption = CStr(Int(CDbl(t))) & " days " & Format$(t, "hh:mm")

...or a bit less...

If you place this Declaration in a *.bas module:


Public Declare Function MTK_ConnectDevice Lib "MTKF32X3_API.dll" (ByVal lngdwPort, ByVal lngdwSpeed) As Long


then this external...

This Code-Snippet of yours above is already doing "well enough" I think -
the only thing that's missing (knowledgewise) is, to force the Format-Function to:
- not react to special chars
-...

For both (1 and 2) I think the cGDIPlusCache-Class in this CodeBank-Thread is entirely sufficient:
https://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?876365-VB6-cGdiPlusCache-cls-revisited

It can load from...