[RESOLVED] ModernVB - Modernize your VB6 IDE - Now released publicly for testing!

Current Version v1.7 - Released May 02, 2020

Changelog

- Included detailed instructions on the root of the release explaining all the procedures necessary to correctly setup ModernVB
- Menu icons have been updated with a few new icons and tweaks
- Project Explorer icons are now replaced by modern icons automatically (thanks to Olaf Schmidt for the concept)
- Initial support for international languages on the add-in side (requires using the optimal settings registry file)
- Patches now include English, French, Spanish and Chinese language support as well as unlimited undo/redo functionality
- Minor tweaks and fixes (Gauge bar docking to Menu should work correctly now)

Download from Github

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Good evening everyone

I'd like to announce that I've released a public version of my ModernVB add-in and the modification pack that should allow you to completely transform your Visual Basic 6 IDE and bring it into the 21st century with many new features to enhance its usefulness and appearance.

More details can be found in the original thread in these forums: http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...ng-the-VB6-IDE

I decided to make a separate thread here in the CodeBank since that seemed to be to the correct place to share code. I'd be okay with taking feedback in either thread though, it's up to you all. I've attached a copy of the source code of the addin for the initial release. For future updates, please refer to the Github project page. To actually install and run the modifications for your IDE, please download the zip file in the Releases tab and follow the instructions in the page and the included text files.

I hope this release is useful to all of you, and if you have any questions or issues please don't hesitate to contact me. I've done my best to ensure everything works correctly, but this has seen very limited public testing so far, so bugs are to be expected.

The project page and source code can be found here: https://github.com/VykosX/ModernVB

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Screenshots:

http://www.vbforums.com/

http://www.vbforums.com/

Attachment 176531

FWIW (regarding your "last open problem" with the Icons in the Project-ToolWindow)...

I've made a self-contained drop-in Class, which handles the suggested "overlay-solution" already
(it's robust and relatively small - requiring no SubClassing)...

cProjToolbar

Code:

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Option Explicit

Private Declare Function SetParent Lib "user32" (ByVal hWndChild As Long, ByVal hWndNewParent As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindowW Lib "user32" (ByVal lpClassName As Long, Optional ByVal lpWindowName As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindowExW Lib "user32" (ByVal hWndParent As Long, ByVal hWndChildAfter As Long, ByVal lpClassName As Long, Optional ByVal lpWindowName As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetCursorPos Lib "user32" (lpPoint As Any) As Long
Private Declare Function WindowFromPoint Lib "user32" (ByVal xPoint As Long, ByVal yPoint As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowRect Lib "user32" (ByVal hWnd As Long, lpRect As Any) As Long
Private Declare Function ExtractIconExW Lib "shell32" (ByVal lpszFile As Long, ByVal nIconIndex As Long, ByVal phiconLarge As Long, ByVal phiconSmall As Long, Optional ByVal nIcons As Long = 1) As Long
Private Declare Function DrawIconEx Lib "user32.dll" (ByVal hDC As Long, ByVal xLeft As Long, ByVal yTop As Long, ByVal hIcon As Long, ByVal cxWidth As Long, ByVal cyWidth As Long, ByVal istepIfAniCur As Long, ByVal hbrFlickerFreeDraw As Long, ByVal diFlags As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function DestroyIcon Lib "user32" (ByVal hIcon As Long) As Long

Private hWndCmdBar As Long, picOvl As VB.PictureBox, WithEvents tmrCheck As VB.Timer

Private Const x1& = 2, x2& = 25, x3& = 54, y0& = 2, sz& = 22

Friend Sub InitFrom(F As Form)
  Dim hProjTool As Long
      hProjTool = FindWindowExW(FindWindowW(StrPtr("wndclass_desked_gsk")), 0, StrPtr("PROJECT"))
    hWndCmdBar = FindWindowExW(FindWindowExW(hProjTool, 0, 0, StrPtr("MsoDockTop")), 0, StrPtr("MsoCommandBar"))
  If hWndCmdBar = 0 Then Err.Raise vbObjectError, , "unable to find CommandBar of Project-ToolWindow"
 
  Set picOvl = F.Controls.Add("VB.PictureBox", "picOvl")
      picOvl.Visible = True:  picOvl.Enabled = False
      picOvl.BorderStyle = 0: picOvl.AutoRedraw = True: picOvl.ScaleMode = vbPixels
      picOvl.Move 0, 0, F.ScaleX(500, vbPixels, F.ScaleMode), F.ScaleY(32, vbPixels, F.ScaleMode)
  SetParent picOvl.hWnd, hWndCmdBar
 
  Set tmrCheck = F.Controls.Add("VB.Timer", "tmrCheck")
      tmrCheck.Interval = 100
 
  Dim i As Long, hIco As Long
  For i = 1 To 3
    If ExtractIconExW(StrPtr("shell32.dll"), -Choose(i, 155, 167, 20), 0, VarPtr(hIco), 1) Then
      DrawIconEx picOvl.hDC, Choose(i, x1, x2, x3) + 3, y0 + 3, hIco, 16, 16, 0, 0, 3
      DestroyIcon hIco
    End If
  Next
  Set picOvl.Picture = picOvl.Image
End Sub
 
Private Sub tmrCheck_Timer()
  Dim Pnt&(0 To 1): GetCursorPos Pnt(0)
  If WindowFromPoint(Pnt(0), Pnt(1)) <> hWndCmdBar Then RenderButton 0: Exit Sub
 
  Dim Rct&(0 To 3):  GetWindowRect hWndCmdBar, Rct(0)
  Dim x&, y&: x = Pnt(0) - Rct(0): y = Pnt(1) - Rct(1)
 
  If x >= x1 And x <= x1 + sz Then RenderButton 1, x1, y0, sz
  If x >= x2 And x <= x2 + sz Then RenderButton 2, x2, y0, sz
  If x >= x3 And x <= x3 + sz Then RenderButton 3, x3, y0, sz
End Sub

Private Sub RenderButton(ByVal Idx&, Optional ByVal x&, Optional ByVal y&, Optional ByVal sz&)
  Static LastIdx As Long
  If LastIdx = Idx Then Exit Sub Else LastIdx = Idx
  picOvl.Cls
    If Idx Then picOvl.Line (x, y)-(x + sz, y + sz), &H888888, B
  picOvl.Refresh
End Sub

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Usage then (either for Testing in a virginal, normal VB6-Form-Project, or from within your Addin-Project):

Code:

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Option Explicit
 
Private PrjToolbar As New cProjToolbar

Private Sub Form_Load()
  PrjToolbar.InitFrom Me
End Sub

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So the only requirements are, that you pass a normal VB-Form-instance into the Class' InitFrom-method...

HTH

Olaf

Quote:

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"The suite is currently comprised of 5 separate elements..."

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Where is the suit???? I only see the add-in to download.

Kudos for having Document Map on it! :)

Check the Releases tab in GitHub my friend. I haven't actually included your excellent Addin per se in the pack (It does come highly recommended though!) but I've added support for ModernVB to detect it and display it whenever you switch to the code layout! :)

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Schmidt

FWIW (regarding your "last open problem" with the Icons in the Project-ToolWindow)...

I've made a self-contained drop-in Class, which handles the suggested "overlay-solution" already
(it's robust and relatively small - requiring no SubClassing)...

cProjToolbar

Code:

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Option Explicit

Private Declare Function SetParent Lib "user32" (ByVal hWndChild As Long, ByVal hWndNewParent As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindowW Lib "user32" (ByVal lpClassName As Long, Optional ByVal lpWindowName As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindowExW Lib "user32" (ByVal hWndParent As Long, ByVal hWndChildAfter As Long, ByVal lpClassName As Long, Optional ByVal lpWindowName As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetCursorPos Lib "user32" (lpPoint As Any) As Long
Private Declare Function WindowFromPoint Lib "user32" (ByVal xPoint As Long, ByVal yPoint As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowRect Lib "user32" (ByVal hWnd As Long, lpRect As Any) As Long
Private Declare Function ExtractIconExW Lib "shell32" (ByVal lpszFile As Long, ByVal nIconIndex As Long, ByVal phiconLarge As Long, ByVal phiconSmall As Long, Optional ByVal nIcons As Long = 1) As Long
Private Declare Function DrawIconEx Lib "user32.dll" (ByVal hDC As Long, ByVal xLeft As Long, ByVal yTop As Long, ByVal hIcon As Long, ByVal cxWidth As Long, ByVal cyWidth As Long, ByVal istepIfAniCur As Long, ByVal hbrFlickerFreeDraw As Long, ByVal diFlags As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function DestroyIcon Lib "user32" (ByVal hIcon As Long) As Long

Private hWndCmdBar As Long, picOvl As VB.PictureBox, WithEvents tmrCheck As VB.Timer

Private Const x1& = 2, x2& = 25, x3& = 54, y0& = 2, sz& = 22

Friend Sub InitFrom(F As Form)
  Dim hProjTool As Long
      hProjTool = FindWindowExW(FindWindowW(StrPtr("wndclass_desked_gsk")), 0, StrPtr("PROJECT"))
    hWndCmdBar = FindWindowExW(FindWindowExW(hProjTool, 0, 0, StrPtr("MsoDockTop")), 0, StrPtr("MsoCommandBar"))
  If hWndCmdBar = 0 Then Err.Raise vbObjectError, , "unable to find CommandBar of Project-ToolWindow"
 
  Set picOvl = F.Controls.Add("VB.PictureBox", "picOvl")
      picOvl.Visible = True:  picOvl.Enabled = False
      picOvl.BorderStyle = 0: picOvl.AutoRedraw = True: picOvl.ScaleMode = vbPixels
      picOvl.Move 0, 0, F.ScaleX(500, vbPixels, F.ScaleMode), F.ScaleY(32, vbPixels, F.ScaleMode)
  SetParent picOvl.hWnd, hWndCmdBar
 
  Set tmrCheck = F.Controls.Add("VB.Timer", "tmrCheck")
      tmrCheck.Interval = 100
 
  Dim i As Long, hIco As Long
  For i = 1 To 3
    If ExtractIconExW(StrPtr("shell32.dll"), -Choose(i, 155, 167, 20), 0, VarPtr(hIco), 1) Then
      DrawIconEx picOvl.hDC, Choose(i, x1, x2, x3) + 3, y0 + 3, hIco, 16, 16, 0, 0, 3
      DestroyIcon hIco
    End If
  Next
  Set picOvl.Picture = picOvl.Image
End Sub
 
Private Sub tmrCheck_Timer()
  Dim Pnt&(0 To 1): GetCursorPos Pnt(0)
  If WindowFromPoint(Pnt(0), Pnt(1)) <> hWndCmdBar Then RenderButton 0: Exit Sub
 
  Dim Rct&(0 To 3):  GetWindowRect hWndCmdBar, Rct(0)
  Dim x&, y&: x = Pnt(0) - Rct(0): y = Pnt(1) - Rct(1)
 
  If x >= x1 And x <= x1 + sz Then RenderButton 1, x1, y0, sz
  If x >= x2 And x <= x2 + sz Then RenderButton 2, x2, y0, sz
  If x >= x3 And x <= x3 + sz Then RenderButton 3, x3, y0, sz
End Sub

Private Sub RenderButton(ByVal Idx&, Optional ByVal x&, Optional ByVal y&, Optional ByVal sz&)
  Static LastIdx As Long
  If LastIdx = Idx Then Exit Sub Else LastIdx = Idx
  picOvl.Cls
    If Idx Then picOvl.Line (x, y)-(x + sz, y + sz), &H888888, B
  picOvl.Refresh
End Sub

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Usage then (either for Testing in a virginal, normal VB6-Form-Project, or from within your Addin-Project):

Code:

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Option Explicit
 
Private PrjToolbar As New cProjToolbar

Private Sub Form_Load()
  PrjToolbar.InitFrom Me
End Sub

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So the only requirements are, that you pass a normal VB-Form-instance into the Class' InitFrom-method...

HTH

Olaf

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You're the best Olaf. I'll give this a shot later today. Thanks a ton!

Quote:

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Originally Posted by LinkFX

Check the Releases tab in GitHub my friend. I haven't actually included your excellent Addin per se in the pack (It does come highly recommended though!) but I've added support for ModernVB to detect it and display it whenever you switch to the code layout! :)

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OhH! totally missed that! Thanks... testing it now...

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Schmidt

FWIW (regarding your "last open problem" with the Icons in the Project-ToolWindow)...

I've made a self-contained drop-in Class, which handles the suggested "overlay-solution" already
(it's robust and relatively small - requiring no SubClassing)...

So the only requirements are, that you pass a normal VB-Form-instance into the Class' InitFrom-method...

HTH

Olaf

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I've tested your code and it works exceptionally well! I specially like what you're doing to extract icons for the toolbar, very creative. I'm going to make the necessary changes and include it in the add-in and credit you for the module. Thank you very much for your fantastic work!

At the risk of appearing a complete newbie, what do I do with this?
How do I apply the patch?

You can use the method of streamlining the installation package to leave the necessary files and remove other files. The installation package of VB6 will become only 6M, and the decompression installation is only about 30M. The biggest difficulty for VB6 is that there is no newcomer to learn this language, and it is difficult to install successfully on WIN8 and WIN10 systems. If you use the install.bat method or VBS method to install, the main thing is to register some COM DLL and OCX, add some registry, each computer can be 100% successfully installed, it takes 5-20 seconds to complete.

I have VB6 installed, I just need to know how to install the patch

Modern VB v1.7 has been released!

Here's a brief changelog:

- Included detailed instructions on the root of the release explaining all the procedures necessary to correctly setup ModernVB
- Menu icons have been updated with a few new icons and tweaks
- Project Explorer icons are now replaced by modern icons automatically (thanks to Olaf Schmidt for the concept)
- Initial support for international languages on the add-in side (requires using the optimal settings registry file)
- Patches now include English, French, Spanish and Chinese language support as well as unlimited undo/redo functionality
- Minor tweaks and fixes (Gauge bar docking to Menu should work correctly now)

If you're one of the people who haven't been able to use ModernVB because your Visual Basic is not in English, give this release a shot!

Download from Github

Thank you!

It would be useful to include uninstall instructions along with the installation instructions in the event something goes wrong or the user wishes to undo the changes.

In fact, I did encounter an error when trying to patch VB6.exe (yes, I'm running VB6SP2):

Extract from the file 'VS6sp6B2.cab' in this setup:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...s.aspx?id=5721
Applying patch, please wait... (don't panic!)
An error has occurred: xdelta3: target window checksum mismatch: XD3_INVALID_INPUT

1. Run the included registry file and accept the prompt to merge values into the registry.
2. Copy the included DLL file to your Visual Basic program files folder.
3. Right click the DLL file you just copied and choose 'Register' from the context menu

#3 - I don't have a Register in the right click drop down so I opened a command window, cd'd to the proper directory and entered
regsvr32 ModernVBv 1.7.dll and (of course), regsvr32 didn't like the space in the filename. I assume I can't change it so now I'm stuck

In fact, I did encounter an error when trying to patch VB6.exe (yes, I'm running VB6SP2):

Extract from the file 'VS6sp6B2.cab' in this setup:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...s.aspx?id=5721
Applying patch, please wait... (don't panic!)
An error has occurred: xdelta3: target window checksum mismatch: XD3_INVALID_INPUT

I created a restore point and also made a separate registry backup before trying this

OK, got the new .dll registered and ran the patch. I too receive the same error as schnel:

[9:51:37 AM] Applying patch, please wait... (don't panic!)
[9:51:38 AM] An error has occurred: xdelta3: target window checksum mismatch: XD3_INVALID_INPUT

And I do have SP6 installed

OK, turned off Checksum validation in the patch program and patched both VB6.exe and VB6IDE.dll but I don't get how to patch the color theme as it's an .xml and the patch program doesn't allow me to add it to patch VBA6.dll

Quote:

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Originally Posted by KenHorse

OK, turned off Checksum validation in the patch program and patched both VB6.exe and VB6IDE.dll but I don't get how to patch the color theme as it's an .xml and the patch program doesn't allow me to add it to patch VBA6.dll

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I did, too, and got it to work. So far so good.
I started with the original theme and all was fine.
I then tried the dark theme, but that caused VB6 to blow up when I ran it so I had to revert back to the original theme.
Also, successfully installed MZTools and the Bookmark add-in.

How do you get the lines connecting If, Then, Elses?

I can't get either the dark nor the navy color scheme to work, only the original. Also, when I first launch, it throws a popup - something to the effect of encountering a stop but then the IDE opens

Edit: The error popup says "Stop Statement Encountered"

Quote:

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Originally Posted by schnel

How do you get the lines connecting If, Then, Elses?

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That's a feature added by the CodeSmart 2013 Addin.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by KenHorse

OK, turned off Checksum validation in the patch program and patched both VB6.exe and VB6IDE.dll but I don't get how to patch the color theme as it's an .xml and the patch program doesn't allow me to add it to patch VBA6.dll

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The patches for VBA6.dll are in the (International) folder since they apply to all languages.

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I can't get either the dark nor the navy color scheme to work, only the original.

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For the color scheme, patch the extracted VBA6.dll with either the navy or dark patch then apply the "Enable Custom Themes" registry file and relaunch VB. Don't try to patch a file that was previously patched. Always patch the native binaries extracted from the cab files, and only once.

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Also, when I first launch, it throws a popup - something to the effect of encountering a stop but then the IDE opens

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As for the stop statement, it seems you're failing an assert that I never got myself and thus forgot to take off the statement. Download the source code, search for this line

Code:

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AddButton_Err:
   
    #If DEBUG_MODE = 1 Then
        Echo "Error '" & Err.Number & "' while copying button " & Button.Index & " [" & Button.Caption & "]: " & Err.Description, vbLogEventTypeError
    #End If
   
    Stop
   
    Resume Next

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Remove that stop, compile the DLL, close VB and register. Alternatively, here's a compiled version without that statement: https://github.com/VykosX/ModernVB/b...nVB%20v1.7.dll

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It seems like you people are patching your local VB6 binaries. Do not do that. Patch only the VB binaries extracted from the cab file inside the SP6 download and then put those in your VB98 folder replacing the originals (make backups!). The SP6 binaries are the versions that match MD5 with the patches. It's possible that you can get the patches to work by ignoring checksums, but there's no reason not to use the SP6 binaries which are guaranteed to work.

Hi LinkFX! you should check FixPalette2020 by Leandro Ascierto. It replace the standard properties color palette with multiple palettes and a eyedropper with zoom that can pick colors from all the screen. I have the oportunity to test it and its a new must!
Consider adding it to the recomended list

gave a registration error

Attachment 178181

It gave this error patching vb6.exe... any ideas, solution?

Thanx in advance...

Visual Basic 6.0 SE SP6 - Modern UI Mod by VykosX
For the Spanish SP6 VB6.EXE
MD5: 3F36E40B7A9FB6FB87E93241D258B35C

Extract from the file 'VS6sp61.cab' in this setup:
https://www.microsoft.com/es-es/down...s.aspx?id=9183

[10:27:21] Applying patch, please wait... (don't panic!)
[10:27:21] An error has occurred: xdelta3: warning: cannot recompress output: unrecognized external compression ID: aWQ9OTE4Mw==

I assume it only works on the original international/US version

Some people develop a new programming language instead of VB6, in fact, relatively directly write a new interface, using the same compiler, this is also very good.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by LinkFX

Modern VB v1.7 has been released!

Here's a brief changelog:

- Included detailed instructions on the root of the release explaining all the procedures necessary to correctly setup ModernVB
- Menu icons have been updated with a few new icons and tweaks
- Project Explorer icons are now replaced by modern icons automatically (thanks to Olaf Schmidt for the concept)
- Initial support for international languages on the add-in side (requires using the optimal settings registry file)
- Patches now include English, French, Spanish and Chinese language support as well as unlimited undo/redo functionality
- Minor tweaks and fixes (Gauge bar docking to Menu should work correctly now)

If you're one of the people who haven't been able to use ModernVB because your Visual Basic is not in English, give this release a shot!

Download from Github

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I use the Chinese version of the programming language. Before I tested, you this plug-in can not use a lot of errors. Now I'll try the new version and see if it works.

In the case of the Chinese version of VB6, many icons cannot be displayed, and it prompts STOP when it is opened for the first time, and it often crashes unexpectedly.

Note: First post is missing all the screenshots. Can you re-upload them?

I don't think the patcher in 1.7 is working.

Replaced from the original from vs6sp6b2.cab like it asked for, and it doesn't show an error but doesn't do anything either.

Quote:

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[1:03:18 AM] Original file "vb6.exe" selected.
[1:03:48 AM] Patch file "VB6.exe.xdelta" selected, description found:

Visual Basic 6.0 SE SP6 - Modern UI Mod by VykosX
For the English SP6 VB6.EXE
MD5: 3F36E40B7A9FB6FB87E93241D258B35C

Extract from the file 'VS6sp6B2.cab' in this setup:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...s.aspx?id=5721

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Edit: Nevermind. There's an 'Apply patch' button that's hidden until you resize the window on the patcher.


But now... a message box saying 'encountered stop statement' comes up every time VB is opened.
also, can't find that neat looking 'document map' . is that a separate addin?

Any way to make things not fantastically tiny? Somehow impossible to turn off the high DPI mode even by taking it out of the manifest.

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Originally Posted by fafalone

also, can't find that neat looking 'document map' . is that a separate addin?

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HI fafalone!
Get Document Map here: https://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?876983

Thanks! That's hugely helpful for my larger code files.

Is this still actively being developed?

I tested it and it was almost useless, a bunch of errors. The best way is to redesign a VB6 IDE. Use the ADD-IN plug-in method to design a brand new interface. Or some functions are gradually enhanced.

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Originally Posted by LinkFX

Good evening everyone

I'd like to announce that I've released a public version of my ModernVB add-in and the modification pack that should allow you to completely transform your Visual Basic 6 IDE and bring it into the 21st century with many new features to enhance its usefulness and appearance.

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Hi ! I wanted to congratulate you for such a great job. However, one thing I would like to point out for improvement is the toolbar icons, they just disappear when not in use, or without loading a project.

Attachment 184946:

I would like it to have a "off" appearance in shades of grey. Is this possible? Otherwise, I think it's the best IDE mod ever for VB6, congratulations! All working for me, win10x64 vb6 in english, so, xiaoyao, I disagree with you. Maybe the Chinese version has problems, just use the English version, you should be able to understand. Greetings!

better idea: switch to vs2010

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Originally Posted by gaouser

better idea: switch to vs2010

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Why how does that help someone trying to use VB6? That's what this tool/thread is about ... a new IDE for VB6 ... not .NET but VB6.
Not everyone wants or can use .NET. Some people still want (or have) to use VB6 for a variety of reasons. Suggesting they move to a completely different language/tool is a non-started.


-tg

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Originally Posted by techgnome

Why how does that help someone trying to use VB6? That's what this tool/thread is about ... a new IDE for VB6 ... not .NET but VB6.
Not everyone wants or can use .NET. Some people still want (or have) to use VB6 for a variety of reasons. Suggesting they move to a completely different language/tool is a non-started.


-tg

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And if they were to move why suggest moving to a 12 year old version?

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Originally Posted by gaouser

better idea: switch to vs2010

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Why is it a better idea to switch to an inferior product that's 12 years outdated itself unless you need one of the narrow things it can do that just aren't possible in VB6?

EVERYTHING is possible in VB6.

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Originally Posted by yereverluvinuncleber

EVERYTHING is possible in VB6.

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That's what I was told in a VB6 public forum on Orkut.

anything is possible in any language ... It comes down to time, money, and effort ... and how much of each of those you're willing to put into it.


-tg

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Originally Posted by techgnome

anything is possible in any language ... It comes down to time, money, and effort ... and how much of each of those you're willing to put into it.

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If it was a question addressed to me, then the answer would be: time and effort.

I'm not sure it really counts if you have to make it your full time job for years or hire a team to recreate the language from scratch with an ability that just can't be done otherwise.

Like you just can't make an x64 program in VB6, or write kernel mode stuff in .NET, Java, and many others.

You could make a new language that superficially appeared similar, but it wouldn't really be the same language at all under the hood.

If I'm wrong and someone has figured out how to do these things... well by all means, revolutionize the language :)

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Originally Posted by fafalone

I'm not sure it really counts if you have to make it your full time job for years or hire a team to recreate the language from scratch with an ability that just can't be done otherwise.

Like you just can't make an x64 program in VB6, or write kernel mode stuff in .NET, Java, and many others.

You could make a new language that superficially appeared similar, but it wouldn't really be the same language at all under the hood.

If I'm wrong and someone has figured out how to do these things... well by all means, revolutionize the language :)

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Hopefully this project actually gets off the ground: https://github.com/twinbasic/twinbasic

It's way further than 'off the ground'... see my reply to your post in the other thread.