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The general opinion so far around this new iPhone 4s is pretty poor. People were expecting more. That siri app that they are making such a big deal about was actually available in the app store for existing iPhones. But they yanked it after yesterday and took down the servers to force people to upgrade to continue using it.
Oh, and they will claim up and down how they revolutionized everything again by creating siri, when the reality is they bought it for somewhere around 200 million back in 2010.
I expected someone else would start this thread.
Try and I'm sure they would be running out to buy one now.
That would certainly help those blind people. :thumb:
That video reminds me of IronMan Movie, where he talk to Jarvis(a super computer, I believe) and Jarvis does those jobs that he asks to do. :D
Didn't they say that the "new" Siri will be available only on iPhone 4S? Why is that if it was already available in the App Store? And why does a voice recognition system need Internet connection anyway?
They pulled it from the App store yesterday and shut down the servers for it. So you want to use it? You must buy their new phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
To report its analysis of your activities to the NSA, KGB, MSS, etc.
I can understand it needs it for weather, traffic, searches etc, but making notes, sending/reading messages, making calls etc... not necessary. They could have easily made it work "offline" and if an action you attempt requires connection it could prompt you to enable it and you could do it by voice as well. Problem solved, seamless operation.
Well I hear Steve Jobs kicked the bucket.
That's because everyone is disappointed about the rumours of the case redesign, overall the iPhone 4S is a massive improvement over the 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by kleinma
The version available on the App Store wasn't anywhere near as advanced as it is on the 4S. They said they had to make a lot of shortcuts to get it to work, unlike on the 4S which is quite powerful.
Never fear I am here! Due to your disappointment, I shall for you, make a thread about the 4S BUT WITH PICTURES :D roflQuote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
It was a limited version, the "beta" on iOS 4 is much more powerful. It's integrated with Wolfram Alpha as well as Yelp and there's code both on Apple's servers and in iOS 5 that is being used.Quote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
So, to sum it up. The iPhone 4S now has the A5 just like the iPad 2, it boasts up to twice the CPU performance and up to seven times faster graphics than the previous generation iPhone. (The iPad 2 boasts up to nine times.) The battery life is very similar to the iPhone 4, however for some reason it has taken a hit in standby battery life. (From 300 hours to 200.)
They've gone all out with the camera; it's eight megapixels, has a fifth lens, an infrared filter, an improved backlight illumination sensor, a larger aperture, and they claim it has an image signal processor built into the A5 of the same quality as is in a DSLR. It's apparently 33% faster to snap photos as well, in part due to the A5's processor as well as the ISP. You can read about it here. (Scroll to the bottom to see photos, and you can download them at full resolution.)
It shoots 1080p video at 30 FPS and has video stabilisation as well as the improvements as mentioned above. You can read about it here.
And apparently it's the first phone to feature dual antennas (both transmit and receive) and to intelligently switch between them for the best signal strength (even during a call). They also claim that although it isn't a 4G phone, it's capable of the same speeds as its competitors advertising (pseudo) 4G speeds. (14.4Mbps down.)
And then there's Siri, which is going to be pretty awesome if it's accurate enough. I watched the Keynote, and the demo of it was pretty impressive, you can read about some of the commands available right now here. The 4S is also obviously going to include iOS 5, which is going to be pretty awesome. I'm looking forward to iCloud! I've been running iOS 5 Beta for quite a while, and it's a pretty solid update. Haven't touched iCloud yet though.
To anyone who wants to check out the demo of Infinity Blade 2 running on the 4S, you can do that here (54:26-57:50). They've got some pretty insane graphics there.
Here's some photos from the camera (click to download full res):
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/10/4sa.jpg
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/10/4sb.jpg
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/10/4sc.jpg
I'm looking forward to Anandtech's review and benchmark of the 4S. I'm definitely going to upgrade from my 3GS :p
Ahum....I guess its the other way arround.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
So, to sum it up, you're a pain in the gluteus maximus.
I can see your truly hurt that I didn't post about this earlier, I just never knew how much you missed my posts, I'll make sure never to forget about posting Apple products here again :)Quote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
Rofl...
So you're saying the reason Siri is only available on 4S is that iPhone 4 is not powerful enough to run it?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Icyculyr
all I see are letters and numbers, in a format that appears to resemble words and possibly sentences... but all I read is "Wha whahahwha, wha wha wha whahahahaahhwhahahawhahh. Blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah."
Now... when the iPhone can make me a cup of hot coffee that doesn't taste like swill... perhaps I'll be impressed.
-tg
It's impossible to know for sure, but that's quite likely. The iPhone 4S is really much, much more powerful than the 4. Maybe the 4S even has some unique hardware to help specifically with Siri. The question is, will the iPad 2 which has slightly more powerful hardware than the 4S, get Siri? We'll see soon enough the answers to these things when reviews come out.Quote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
Oh yeah, voice recognition is so processor intensive... That's a load of bull right there. It's not coming to iPhone 4 because without it the new iPhone doesn't have pretty much anything new appart from the new CPU. Yes it has a new camera but the current one is great so it wont be a reason for users to buy the new one. But I'm sure you can explain all of this with some iLogic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Icyculyr
You're actually very wrong. This isn't simple voice recognition, Siri is very advanced and capable of understanding context and processing reasonably complex commands. I'd suggest you read up about what it can actually do before you go insisting it's capable of running smoothly on a 4. If you insist on saying otherwise, I shall wait to be proven right when it's fully tested.Quote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
Additionally, you seem to be totally clueless about what's changed in the 4S to say that the there's not much new aside from Siri. Oh, and sure the 4's camera is good but the 4S leap frogs it, and does the same for video recording too.
You could ask Siri, but she'd probably say do it yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by techgnome
I want a phone that weighs less than 4oz and has a battery life of 5-7 days at normal use. Can the iPhone do that?
But it still can't make a cup of coffee... there's no slim jim for when I lock my keys in the car... no pliers, no toothpick... and have you tried to carve something with it? the edge is so dull, it's useless.
Oh yes. How could I have been so blind, just because it understands context it needs a Cray supercomputer to run. And the new camera, even if it's as good as a $5000 pro DSL, it's still a phone. The one in 4 is way better than what I actually need.
Ah, and I love this type of people: what I say has to be taken as correct until proven otherwise, while everyone else has to prove what they say.Quote:
If you insist on saying otherwise, I shall wait to be proven right when it's fully tested.
And even though neither of us has seen or used (let alone tested) the new phone, somehow I'm the only one talking out of my gluteus maximus.
What I find iconic is that if Apple don't revolutionize the world on each iteration then Everything is Terrible, whereas when Microsoft announce their next cycle it's success is based on whether we can do what we can already do.
the 4S isn't a monumental upgrade as far as feature set - and bear in mind that Apple have had failures, just that the market was so small that no-one noticed. But again, here we have Apple unable to meet/beat their own bar with a single app - a failure, I suppose. The hardware, however, looks like a significant upgrade, but maybe that's too early to tell.
Actually that's not the problem. What you describe is perfectly fine. The problem is that even when the case is such, they (Apple and Mactards) still praise it like it's the second (or this time fifth) coming of Jesus. It was the same thing with iPhone 4, "video calls, this is going to completely change how we look at phones"... No it's not, video calls in general suck, and we had those 15 years ago, I had it on my Nokia N70 6 years ago and unlike iPhone mine worked over the carrier (2g/3g) not just WiFi and it worked with all other devices (other manufacturers) that supported it, not just a few iOS devices. So that's the problem, every time they act like they've invented fire and the wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by SJWhiteley
no... only iFire and iWheel....
-tg
Maybe it is just the way they need to hold a huge secret press conference after total silence about their next product to build insane hype to those interested. Then when people find out its just a faster phone with some piece of software you can talk to and a better camera, they feel a bit let down after all the hype that Apple built around "revolutionizing everything all over again".Quote:
Originally Posted by SJWhiteley
Don't forget siri was an app that you could get on your iPhone previously (up until they announced it to be part of the 4s, which is when they yanked it and turned off its servers for the existing users).
So even if its been refined and tweaked, to say it can only run on the next gen iPhone is probably not accurate, since it was running on iPhone 4 and iPhone 3 up until 2 days ago.
I wonder if siri's voice reco is half as good as in the video or maybe she has a limited vocabulary that ups the recognition accuracy.
It does have a limited vocabulary when it comes to commands, but it also takes dictation for writing notes, messages etc. But they do note it gets better with time as it "learns" your voice and speech style which is fine.
if your normal usage is not using it at all... probably :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
what is the very best of the best speech reco for a pc that you have tested for yourself ?
I just want a phone not all this extra c... I just want to make a phone call on the thing. Why should I pay for a data plan its way more then I want to spend. Is this marvolus iPhone 4s a phone or a small computer I don't want or need to carry.
Not all of us want to stay connected 24*7
Never tried any. I don't really care for it.
I'm with Gary. My phone is a phone. What I want is to be able to make calls and not have to charge the thing every day. It also has to be light enough that I would be willing to carry it. As far as I can tell, every smart phone has a battery life of less than a day with heavy use, and not more than a day if it is used only as a phone.
I have lots of colleagues with Android phones, and they have shown me all kinds of neat apps for them. There is only one problem: The apps are neat, not useful. Everybody seems to use their phones for voices, texting, and e-mail, but the rest of the stuff is rarely, if ever, useful. I had the same problem when I was working with PDAs. I could write programs for them, I just couldn't think of a program that I would actually use. The one thing I did use it for was to keep a shopping list, but that PDA went away four years ago, and I haven't missed it. It was just one more thing to forget when I went to the store. I can forget a scrap of paper with some ink on it, I certainly don't need a multi-hundred dollar piece of paper to forget.
Many people would be able to point to one or two other programs that they use often, and most people don't go as off the grid as I do when on vacation (I can't even get good sat phone or GPS coverage, let alone cell phone), but is the gadget worth the money? Is the 4S so much better that you will jettison the 4 that you have to rush out and get a new one?
Stop the madness.
Sigh... There's more to it than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
I wasn't suggesting you upgrade? To each his own, I've been stuck on a 3GS for ages so I'll be getting this.
That's not what I said. I said, I'll be proven right when its benchmarked. Well, I've watched the Keynote and read up about it plenty.Quote:
Ah, and I love this type of people: what I say has to be taken as correct until proven otherwise, while everyone else has to prove what they say.
And even though neither of us has seen or used (let alone tested) the new phone, somehow I'm the only one talking out of my gluteus maximus.
What do you mean by feature set? Not specs, I take it? Aside from the case I don't know what else they could do.Quote:
Originally Posted by SJWhiteley
It's more so that the version available on the App Store which was there for how long? Maybe a year? Was greatly dumbed down to work on the devices it did. What's running on the 4S isn't anything like what Siri was on the App Store.Quote:
Originally Posted by kleinma
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There's this article about trying to port Siri to iPod touch 4G: http://cydiahelp.com/port-siri-on-iphone-4-under-work/
If it's possible, they'll probably be the first to know. Anyway, amongst my searching I found someone who wrote this:
I've no idea if its true or not yet, but it's certainly a possibility. I'm not saying this is the reason, rather it might be. Will cite references if I get any. Hopefully the iPad 2 will get Siri.Quote:
Unless they can come up with a clever work-around, no, it won't. The fourier comb amd Markov filter -- essential to turnning a stream of words into a tiny handful of contextually-cogent bytes -- runs in one of the two PowerVR GPU cores that is in the newer A5. The 4S has extra links between the GPU output and the baseband chip so that the Siri application has its own dedicated connection to the cloud processing farms (currently, just the one in Philadelphia), piggybacked on the primary stream to and from the cell.
The 4S is fat I'm afraid. It's 4.9oz, and I've no idea about the battery life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
That's fair enough. It's more a small computer than it is a phone, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryMazzone
I'd say spec-wise, the 4S is a quite a massive upgrade from the 4 and thus worth it if you're interested in any of that. However, I own a 3GS, so I'm definitely upgrading.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
I have the latest iOS 5 GM (build 9A334) on my iPad 2, and there's no Siri. I doubt anything will change in the next 5 days until it's released publicly. So there you have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Icyculyr
I'm also running the beta on my iOS devices, and yeah it's quite possible that's going to be the way it goes, which would be disappointing to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
Do you have the multi-touch gestures working on the iPad 2? They're not enabled on the iPad 1.
Very impressive sunlit photos. I wonder what the sensor's like in low light.
Don't care for any of the other stuff.
I merged the threads.
Yep. Dragging left/right with 4 fingers to switch through apps is good instead of opening the menu (button double click), but there's always some lag when you go to the next app probably until it gets out of background mode, so it's not completely smooth. The five finger pinch to exit the app is pretty useless though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Icyculyr
Hopefully they'll be pretty good. I think with all the improvements, as well as HDR, it'll be able to take low lit photos well. I wish they'd have put up large resolution low lit photos...Quote:
Originally Posted by penagate
Uh oh!Quote:
I merged the threads.
Sweet, I've used them before and I really like them. It's too bad they won't be putting them on the iPad 1, it worked well enough imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
Low light photos are the ultimate test of a camera sensor. A DSLR has a huge advantage here over compacts and phone cameras because of the much larger sensor area. Smaller sensors show up more noise when the voltage amplification is increased to boost sensitivity in low light conditions (increasing the "ISO" setting). I forget exactly why this is; something to do with smaller pits or some such. But it's the reason why small cameras are universally crap in low light.
Mmm, I see. Here's to hoping Apple did something amazing with the camera :pQuote:
Originally Posted by penagate
I trialled voice recognition at a law firm i used to work at (it was actually much better and much more accurate then i anticipated), and firstly i would like to know what "Simple voice recognition" is, as from what i could see there was nothing simple about it.Quote:
You're actually very wrong. This isn't simple voice recognition, Siri is very advanced and capable of understanding context and processing reasonably complex commands. I'd suggest you read up about what it can actually do before you go insisting it's capable of running smoothly on a 4. If you insist on saying otherwise, I shall wait to be proven right when it's fully tested.
Secondly as much of the processing will be done on the server i can see no reason why you would need a more powerful device to run the software, why do you think you need a more powerful device to use Siri?
There is nothing new or particularly compelling about this IPhone, but then when has that stopped Apple from making a shed load of money from it's latest model.
There's an app for that.Quote:
the second (or this time fifth) coming of Jesus
I'm with Gary too. All I really want from my phone is for it to be a phone. I did recently buy a Nokia E71 because the keyboard's handy for texting but that's it for me. I really don't need anything else.
I don't want it to be a camera. I own a camera already and my life isn't really interesting enough to bother taking photos anyway.
I don't need it to do voice recognition for me, the person I phoned can take care of that bit.
I don't need it to make a sound like a light sabre (although this is admittedly quite good fun).
I don't want to read books on it. I own books.
I don't want it to be a personal organiser. People who bought filo-faxes in the 80s were self important ******s and I don't see that anything's changed.
I don't want to surf the net on it. The internet's only really good for porn anyway and the ensuing activities get me arrested in public.
What are the odds we can set up a fight to the death between Siri and YotaMaker?
edit>I'm quiet surprised I got caught by the profanity filter there. Suffice it to say that 80s' yuppies spent alot of time throwing dwarves.
Ok, why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Icyculyr
What's the cost? $200? $300? (I have no idea, I just remember the early fiasco of the deflating iPhone cost). What do you expect to get for that money?
I ask this because I would have considered that, at one time. I wanted the latest and the greatest (though I couldn't afford it at the time). Now, there are several items I could purchase, but I got thinking about the cost and benefits of those items. For me, the decision would be this: I could go out for sushi 10 times for the cost of that phone. I would enjoy each trip uniquely and immensly. The phone....well, within a week or so, I wouldn't be able to point to a single feature that made my life a whit better in any way. For you to be spending that kind of cash, you must have some expectation that you are going to get some positive benefit from this phone. So far, you haven't mentioned anything that appears to really appeal to you, let alone anyone else. You do mention some things that are cool about it, and they are, but so what? How will they make your life better? You certainly won't be profiting from this, as you don't suggest that the phone will make you more money. Are you writing programs for it, and thus it is a test platform for you (that's why I had a PDA, and I didn't even buy it)? Is this solely for the purchasers high? Will you get laid more?
On what grounds do you make this decision?
Or to put it simply: We get that there are loads of features... but what are the benefits?
Actually, that's with a 2 year contract. After the two years you would have paid over $2.500Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Found this article regarding unlocked iPhone 4S.... http://t.co/z9x2flg0
-tg
Yes, the true cost of owning any smart phone is the amount of money you end up paying for the data plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
http://i.imgur.com/lPd9s.jpg
Sometimes it makes sense to buy the phone outright.
This year after my contract expires, I plan to go back to using a regular phone. One that will let me make calls and text people. For everything else, I will purchase a tablet.
That's actually a reasonable idea... one that has me thinking... since most of the time, where I'd be using the tablet would be at home, where I'd have the wireless network.... I could get the dirt cheep data plan. I might even be able to dump my phone all together since I also get a crackberry through work... people can call/text me on that...Quote:
One that will let me make calls and text people. For everything else, I will purchase a tablet.
-tg
Well, it was in reply to what baja making it sound quite simple. I don't believe it is, but I do believe Siri is more advanced (it seems so). We'll see soon enough whether I'm right or wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedSomeAnswers
Apple has not disclosed how much is done on the server vs the device yet. It's based on my seeing it in action, as well as what Apple has said about it. Additionally, I quoted to baja this:
Which seems to provide a reasonable explanation to it, although I can't verify it right now. I'm going to hedge my bets on it being too complex, although I may turn out to be wrong. It'll probably be the jail break community who discovers what's what first.Quote:
Unless they can come up with a clever work-around, no, it won't. The fourier comb amd Markov filter -- essential to turnning a stream of words into a tiny handful of contextually-cogent bytes -- runs in one of the two PowerVR GPU cores that is in the newer A5. The 4S has extra links between the GPU output and the baseband chip so that the Siri application has its own dedicated connection to the cloud processing farms (currently, just the one in Philadelphia), piggybacked on the primary stream to and from the cell.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
This will be on contract, and it'll cost me about $10 or $15 a month for the 16GB model -- I'm hoping for the former. I may end up going with the 32GB model, I'm undecided right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
Why? Well, I'll go through it.
To start with it'll be so much faster. Just as the second iPad is significantly faster than the first, so too will the 4S be faster than the 4 and I so happen to be running the 3GS which is even slower. The 3GS does run iOS 5 reasonably well, but it just doesn't compare.
What kind of aspects of speed are we talking about? Well, on one hand you've got general "zippiness", everything opens quickly, web browsing is incredibly fast, switching between apps will be much better as well due to 512MB RAM (instead of 256MB) as well as the faster LPDDR2 RAM and even more so if it turns out to be 1GB of RAM.
And then on the other hand you've got the significantly faster graphics, and I do like to play games on my phone. (Particularly any with beautiful graphics, such as Infinity Blade or even more so Infinity Blade 2 when it is released.) Another plus, is the 960x640 326 PPI retina display, compared to my 480x320 163 PPI display.
(Not to mention due to the speed I'll be able to use much more processor intensive apps such as iWork for iOS, and the like.)
Then you've got the camera which is leaps and bounds and leaps and bounds above what I've got and I do use my camera although it's absolute rubbish in low light, and barely much better with good lighting. I could go through the benefits of the camera on the 4S, but I've done that already. The video camera is also great, and I do shoot videos here and there as well. (I'll do it more when I can actually take good quality stuff, too.)
It's got a nicer case in my opinion, a significantly better antenna (as well as pseudo-4G speeds) and much better battery life than a brand new 3GS yet alone my one and a half to two year old model. Siri has piqued my interest and I hope I find a nice use for it however it isn't necessarily a reason I'm buying it, although I do think it is pretty cool. I also believe it has a better mic and speaker.
All-in-all, I'll have a significantly better phone in every regard and I'll enjoy it much more. That's worth it for me. Additionally, I am a developer so I may test apps on it as well.
I might even like to use my HDTV as a screen to play games on or mirror the phone's display to the HDTV. (You can even do split-screen matches with Real Racing 2, for example.) I can't currently do any of that that with my 3GS. I also can't make a wireless WiFi hotspot (only via Bluetooth can I share the connection.) I could go on, and on, about what my 3GS can't do but I'll leave it at this.
I do understand your analogy about Sushi, that's something I like myself. However, in that instance I would rather have a much cheaper meal, such as lentils, to save the money to get the device which will last me another two years or so. I see myself getting far more enjoyment out of the device than the food.
Only 199$ for iPhone 4 ?
In India, it's more than 750$, I think : http://www.priceindia.in/laptop/airt...ffer-in-india/ :eek:
That's on contract. Outright the price is more expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by akhileshbc
I thought I'd quote this info about Siri by someone who seems quite educated on the subject (by the same guy I previously quoted about Siri):
I can't say I've ever used Apple's voice control on the 3GS because it really isn't very good (not understanding my aussie accent very well, calling random people when I want a playlist, etc.), but if Siri can do this as well as do it well with background noise too (the same guy said it can for such and such reasons), I would most definitely find use for this. Will be great if it can handle multiple commands, too.Quote:
As someone who spent many years following speech recognition research, and someone who spent some time with the original Siri (through a US proxy so its response times were slow) before Apple bought the company just over a year ago, I can tell you this:
Siri is the closest you will ever have to having a personal secretary in your pocket. The fact that you get a powerful, intelligent personal assistant you can converse with in natural, context-laden spoken language with every iPhone 4S is going to double's Apple sales.
Here's an example of how Siri slots into the iPhone's functionality:
*annoying downloaded ringtone*
*glance to see who's calling, swipe to unlock*
"G'day Tony."
"Hey Eric, how's things?"
"Good mate, good, what's up?"
"Not much, just thought I'd bug you to see if you've got those Frankston proofs yet."
"Dunno. Siri, has there been any email from Mitchelson's this morning?"
"There are two emails from Tony Mitchelson in your in-box, two with attachments."
"Thanks, yeah, seems they're there mate, I'll go over them in a bit 'n get back to you with an okay."
"Well you can forget the second one, Eric, they've wanted another change. Can I catch up with you around three?"
"Don't see why not, Siri, appointment with Tony Mitchelson at three today."
"The requested time slot is unavailable."
"Bugger. Siri, what is scheduled from three onward?"
"Currently. Three fifteen, pick up Andrea from day care. Four pee em, pick up Alan from soccer training. Four--"
"Stop. Never have kids, Tony, I tell ya *laughs*"
"When did you get an American secretary, Eric? She sounds hot."
"*laughs* Mate, its a program in the new iPhone, best thing ever, and the missus never gets jealous."
"****, eh. G'day Siri!"
"Hello Tony."
"Fark!"
"*laughs* Look, afternoon's buggered, mate, got time for a late lunch?"
"Sure."
"You'll love this, mate, Siri, find me an Italian restaurant between Mitchelson's and here that is open for lunch."
"Checking."
"You're shittin' me."
"There is one Italian restaurant found. Would you like further information displayed?"
"Yes. Siri, send a copy of the information to Tony Mitchelson."
"Information card sent."
*distant SMS tone*
"Holy ****, Eric! A program does all this?"
"Yeah, I'll show you how it works over calzone & some red, I'll see you at Amici's in twenty, okay?"
No, I'm not shittin' ya, Siri really is capable of this level of interaction. Siri is double-ended; the bulk of Siri runs in Apple's cloudspace, whilst the input module in the iPhone listens for its keyphrase and uses a Markov filter running in one of the PowerVR cores to convert any subsequent voice input into word-symbols. The assembled string of word-symbols is passed through the basic response list to see if there is a local command, if it doesn't find a match the string is sent to the cloud, along with a context string-set, for advanced processing.
Siri is a game changer, mark my words.
(Link: http://www.mactalk.com.au/31/104349-siri-australia.html)
Now I know the conversation is fake. Or that dude is a retard, because frankly, Stephen Hawking sounds sexier.Quote:
"When did you get an American secretary, Eric? She sounds hot."
As it said in the quote, it's an example (not real). Siri doesn't sound too great, but hopefully you'll be able to change her voice. On Lion, I'm particularly fond of Samantha, she sounds quick real.Quote:
Originally Posted by baja_yu
I'm not gonna quote #53, as that's a pretty big post, but that's what I am addressing.
Most of the items you metioned come under the heading: Advertising. Frankly, you are talking about things that you 'might' do. That's the problem. All these things we COULD do, but what things will you ACTUALLY do? Of all the things you mentioned, there are two that you feel certain you will do: Play games, and take pictures (or video). Everything else you mentioned are advertising points with no actual value. It's faster? Who gives a rat's patoot??? If an app opens in a tenth of a second versus a half a second, it doesn't amount to a dimes worth of value. The speed is already so fast that the gains are not significant to our lives. Only new tools are of value, and those are only valuable if you need them.
You are talking about shelling out a lot of money for something where you can't identify any particular benefit to anybody other than Apple. Everything else you have mentioned is just an attempt to rationalize a decision you have already made. You haven't been able to mention a single thing that you can't already do which you actually WANT to do. You only mention things that you might consider doing. The only telling point is this line:
"and I'll enjoy it much more"
You aren't buying out of need, you are buying out of desire. You might very well enjoy it much more. In my case, the novelty would wear off in a day or two, or maybe a week at the most. Then you will be right where you are now. Why not find something that will change your life for the same amount of money?
When I buy camping equipment, it always fills a specific need. Either it replaces an item that has broken, or it reduces the weight that I carry, which material impacts my health. I try to follow the same principles for any other purchase, as well. What bothers me about your posts is that you can't seem to identify how this phone will materially benefit your life other than getting a shoppers high.
Or buy stock instead http://kyleconroy.com/2010/04/apple-stock