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For any of you using VS2008 and .NET 3.5, the first Service Pack was released today for download. It is highly advisable for anyone using this to upgrade and take advantage of the fixes and features it ads.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstu.../cc533447.aspx
Maybe this is not the best place to ask my question but anyway...
When I try to install Visual Studio 2008 SP1 I get an error but I can't see any messages.
I thought maybe I had to install .NET framework 3.5 SP1 separately so I tried that. However this gave me an error aswell:
So I thought, easy to fix, just install .NET framework 2.0 SP1... However, it says I can't install this on Windows Vista because it is not supported...Code:WapUI: [2] DepCheck indicates Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0SP1 (CBS) is not installed.
Err..? What do I need to do?
im not sure, but I plan on installing it on Vista later on tonight, so I will post back and let you know. I am on an XP Box right now.
Quick question, do I have to install both the VS.2008 SP1 and the .Net 3.5 SP1? If so, in what order?
are you running Vista RTM or Vista SP1?
yes both, and they are both part of the same installer package. They go hand in hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by ntg
Got me confused here...I'm downloading the VS.2008 SP1 iso file. Does that contain .Net 3.5 SP1?Quote:
Originally Posted by kleinma
Yes it does
Thanks :thumb:
I had posted mine in the GD Forum since it applies to all .NET languages. :p :D
I went to lunch first so you beat me to it and I didnt see yours until right now
Maybe we should merge them but probably best in the GD forum IMO
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=535424
I think the VB.NET forum is the best place for it, considering most of our users here are in fact VB developers and this is the most popular forum for .NET related questions on this forum. Also since most people developing against .NET 2.0 and up mostly are using VS 2008 at this point.
I was only going to leave it as a sticky here for a few days, then let it sink to the bottom.
Yea, but there are also C# and ASP.NET traffic to consider too. ;)
I suppose this was to me?Quote:
Originally Posted by kleinma
I am using Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit with Service Pack 1 installed.
I've been using VS2008 and .NET framework 3.5 for at least few months now already without any problems...
I tried installing VS2008 SP1 again after reading here that it includes .NET framework 3.5 SP1, and now I noticed there was an error log, which basically tells me it errors on installation of .NET framework 3.5 SP1 (same error message). So it's the .NET framework that is causing problems, not VS2008 SP1 itself.
I tried googling it, found a few forums but all of them just asking the question and no useful replies found yet...
EDIT
I found one post that said to use some Cleanup utility, which I just did (removed .NET framework completely as far as I can tell) and then install 2.0SP1 and 3.0SP1, then 3.5 and then 3.5SP1... 2.0SP1 and 3.0SP1 did not want to install on Vista so I just skipped those. I re-installed 3.5 and then tried 3.5SP1 again, same error...
I installed the BETA release of SP1 but there doesnt seem to be any way of uninstalling the BETA without uninstalling the entire Visual Studio installation... (yes I ticked the "show updates" box in add/remove programs)
So I'm just gonna install the release version of SP1 as well and see how badly it screws up :)
Oh and by the way, the link you provided only works for Visual Studio, not the VB Express edition. This was the only link I could find for that: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...ng=en#filelist
Just one reason why you should always consider the effects of installing Betas.
meh, I was willing to give anything a try that claimed to enhance the terrible WPF designer...
I cant download from http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=122095 what is the problem.
Works completely fine for me. Are you using fireFox? :lol:
Yea, I found Microsoft's sites hate Firefox with a passion. The download sites don't download and MSDN causes Firefox 3 to actually crash when I do a search. Maybe it's just me and my installation, but of the hundreds of web sites I hit every day, I only have these problems on those two.
I have seen firefox crash at MSDN site too, but I wouldn't blame that on MSDN. Even if there was a problem with the site, the browser should be able to handle the problem without crashing.
There is also a preperation tool that will remove any beta updates or patches to VS 2008 RTM that you can run prior to installing SP1. However SP1 should tell you if it needs to run that before trying to install. It did for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris128
I've never had any problems using Firefox with MSDN or Microsoft Download Center. If the download does not start automatically, you should be able to follow the "Start download" link.
I actually did some digging and found the reason all of these Firefox3 problems. It's Silverlight of all things. I tore Silverlight off my system and everything works perfectly now. I can download from Microsoft Download Center, MSDN doesn't crash, etc.
LOL, I guess I can blame Microsoft for my Firefox problems after all. :rolleyes:
It could just be a bad install of Silverlight. I had Silverlight installed with Firefox2, then I installed Firefox3. I'll try reinstalling Silverlight after lunch and post the result for any Firefox users who are having trouble getting the service pack.
EDIT: Ok, my suspicion was confirmed. Re-installing Silverlight makes a happy Firefox3. I guess this is a problem where:
You have Firefox2.
You install Silverlight.
You upgrade to Firefox3.
Silverlight will FUBAR Firefox3 on Microsoft's sites (and perhaps anyone else using Silverlight).
To fix: Close all browsers. Uninstall Silverlight. Reinstall Silverlight.
I couldn't edit control templates in blend ( got a error) after installing .net 3.5 sp1 so I'm scared to install this
which version of blend?
If you use the preperation tool you will also need the VS physical media but not sure about the Express versions.
FYI: This update does not work with 2008 Express versions.
There's a VS 2008 Express editions SP1 update, use thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Campion
I did a search, and as of right now, the only thing available is 2008 express with SP1 Beta, or SP1 for 2005, but no SP1 release for 2008 express.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuggaloBrotha
Do a better search: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=enQuote:
Originally Posted by Campion
For reference there's a VS 2008 Team Foundation Server SP1 too: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
I think you might be missing a link there Juggalo
While installing the update Kaspersky reported a trojan program
backdoor.win32.vb.ffx
file
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...6_0090278A1BB8
allow / deny???????
I searched the download center for VS SP1 updates, and that's what returned. Don't chide me for what MS returns.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuggaloBrotha
Besides, I was looking for an UPDATE, not a full uninstall/reinstall---of which, there appears to be no other option right now, so the full/full option is the only way until I get around to purchasing a higher version.
Dont know if its just a coinsidence but after installing SP1 on my system, VS took ages to load and my entire system turned into a zombie for several minutes, even after it (VS) had started up completely :(
VS SP-1 takes preparation before installing especially if you had the beta version installed. Also, it can take hours to install depending upon your system resources.
Well, i installed it yesterday..But today was my first time loading VS since then. I hope it was a one time thing, hopefully next time it'll be as fast as it was 2 days ago (ooh the days :cry: )
;)
I just installed it from the ISO. While everything went alright (I also had AVG report backdoor.win32.vb.ffx on setup.bin in the BootStrapper area) the bootstrapper for DotNetFX 3.5 SP1 is messed up. It has no files.
I extracted .NET 3.5 SP1 from the ISO, unpacked it and copied it into C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0A\Bootstrapper\Packages\DotNetFX35SP1
Most of my errors went away, but I'm getting warnings about two of the files Public Keys don't match. *** gives?! This is probably the sloppiest job I've ever seen done on a service pack.
Well I never rush to install a SP or new version until I see how the community is experiencing it first :D
I usually install them right away at RTM, but only when I have had success with the betas previously.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
However I tend to not install anything on my main production machine until I have done it on the other machines.
You are lucky to have more then one system runing the latest and greatest :p :D
I only have vista and 2008 on my main system. my other one is slow and running XP with 2003
You should really start using Virtual Server then. Makes it super easy to have a brand spanking new installation at any given time to test things out. I have about 20 VMs on this machine alone.
However I do have 3 physical machines (one is a laptop) in my office here, and we have a total of about 20 machines throughout the entire office here.
I actually only run Vista on the laptop. When I build my next PC (once SSD drives get a little cheaper) I will run Vista exclusively.
That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen...Quote:
Originally Posted by kleinma
some people think so, but I have not had any real problems with vista at all to be honest. I've had this laptop for about a year and a half, and it runs Vista without any issues at all.
The only major problems I have actually seen with Vista, were with XP to Vista upgraded machines. Mostly Dells.
Also, when I said that, I did not mean I won't have XP available at my fingertips, I just mean for my day to day usage, I will run Vista on my main production machine.
Vista SP1 added some extra fixes and stability that fixed the few annoyances I had.
I run Vista exclusively...hear this and be amazed: its the 64 bit version.
It works like a charm :thumb:
Yeah, we also have an x64 vista box here in the office. No issues there either.
Sure if we plug in the 15 year old dot matrix parallel printer, it may not work, but I never expected it to.
Yeah. With a little help from a friend, I found a "hack" (basically just uninstall 2 specific updates from the computer) that removes Vista x64's check for signed drivers (I dont really know what to think about the signed drivers thing in Vista x64...). I had to do it because of my recently purchased microcontroller programmer.
Yea, sometimes, getting signed drivers is impossible for industrial hardware. It's totally idiotic of Microsoft to completely remove the ability to disable (permanently) the requirement for signed drivers.
Don't even fool around with the 32bit version. It's garbage compared to the 64bit one. Vista X64 + 4gig RAM is "the" way to go from what I've been told. It's snappier and faster than XP ever was.
Incidentally, has anyone else had a problem with the bootstrap of Framework 3.5 SP1 the upgrade tries to install? As I said, it was totally broken for me. I'm busy building one from scratch similar to what I did with 2.0 SP1
Here were my experiences with SP1 so far:
VM XP SP3 with VS 2008 RTM - Installed fine
Vista x86 on laptop with VS 2009 RTM - Installed fine
Production box with XP pro - Told me I needed to run some cleaner utility first, and directed me to the downlod page. Ran that utility, worked fine, then ran SP1 update, however never got past a certain point, and I had to cancel it. Never actually cancelled, so I had to end task and reboot. I then tried the install again, and it went fine without a hitch.
There are a few blog entries, especially 1 or 2 from MS folks about some of the common scenarios they are seeing for failure, as well as solutions to those issues.
I installed it and it fixed that problem I had, also why is this much smaller than the beta?
likely the beta contained ALL Versions, and the one you got contained your specific version.
There are x86, x64, and IA64 builds of the framework
I just wish the SP fixed the memory usage and ASP.NET parsing.
I start up an APS.NET project in 2008 and within a few minutes it's using upto 200MB. If minimize it, the memory will usually drop to 7 MB or so, but not after I've been running it for an hour or more.
Then there's the slow ASP.NET parsing. I try to edit anything in code view (HTML) and I am constantly getting delays and if sometimes the code just randomly shifts when in split view mode. Once, I clicked on a tab in design view and it blew out my entire HTML formatting and the page quit working.
Other than that, SP1 installed easy as pie.....mmmm, pie!
On a side note, Virtual Machines are great. I've been thinking of building a new PC with 8GB, maybe 16GB of memory and 2 Quad Core CPUs running Vista64 just to see if I can run multiple VMs at the same time and VS2008 a bit quicker. Although this may be overkill, just to be able to tell my friends I have this setup would be sweet, even if I can't use it to it's full potential.
My current PC is only 3GHz with 4GB, which inly leaves 1.5GB memory for a VM.
CT
Hello,
I clicked on the link to download the service pack. Current I am using VS 2008 Team System. I don't have Team foundation server.
I have these options to download.
* Visual Studio 2008 SP1
* .NET Framework 3.5 SP1
* Visual Studio 2008 Express Editions with SP1
* Visual Studio Team System 2008 Team Foundation Server SP1
Which link will I need to download. Are the VS SP1 and .Net Framework 3.5 SP1 separate downloads that have to be installed.
As I am using Team System do I just need to download the VS Team System?
I have read the documentation but just want to be double sure before I download.
Many thanks,
Visual Studio 2008 SP1 sounds like the one you want.
I also use VS 2008 Team System (but not on foundation server) and that is what I used.
Note that VS2008 SP1 also installs .NET 3.5 SP1, but not the other way around.
The only reason they have the standalone 3.5 SP1 download, is simply because not everyone who wants the framework service pack is going to have Visual Studio, but everyone that has visual studio 2008, needs the framework SP in addition to the IDE SP, so they are together in that update.
Obviously the express edition speaks for itself.
Thanks,
that cleared that up.
Signed drivers is a Local Policy Object that you can turn on or off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atheist
Is there rob in x64? I know there is in x86, but x64 is supposed to have extra safe guards in place.
You can actually modify the boot loader to bypass the checks
http://chris123nt.com/2007/04/28/driver-signing-in-x64/
but I didn't know there was a policy option in x64 to do it.
Not sure if it is different but I am still running 32 bit so I cant say.
Probably will upgrade it to 64 bit next time I reinstall (probably next year).
I finally managed to install the service pack after having reformatted my pc...
Now I have a question: I've read that there would be a new Office 2007 Ribbon tool available, but I can't find it anywhere...
"Visual Basic and Visual C++ components and tools (including an MFC-based Office 2007 style ‘Ribbon’)"
I thought maybe it was only for C++ so I created a new C++ project, added a winform but still no ribbon to be seen...
I tried searching for it in the 'Choose Items' dialog (rightclick on toolbar - Choose Items...) and filtered for "Ribbon". That gave me a list of ribbon controls (buttons, togglebuttons, checkboxes, gallery, etc..) but still no Ribbon control...
Where the heck is this tool? I'd just like to see how it works; I already used one from a third party control but it was a pain in the *ss to customize so I was hoping this was a bit better...
Also, is it only for C++ or is it for VB aswell?
MFC is a set of libraries for unmanaged C++. When you say you created a C++ project and "added a winform" it suggests to me that you created a managed C++ project, which uses the .NET framework.