Man, here in the oc, it is really windy... probably the Santa Anna Winds...
I think i will walk out side an take some pictures :)
:wave: Hope i dont die
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Man, here in the oc, it is really windy... probably the Santa Anna Winds...
I think i will walk out side an take some pictures :)
:wave: Hope i dont die
Must be breathtaking. I hope.
we always hope you do... :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
You haven't seen wind until you have seen wind coming off the Great Lakes.
That will take more than just your breath away.
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Originally Posted by Hack
Yeah, that's what Berlin does.
Oh wit, why hast thou foresaken me?
well here is an update that i got. The winds have started 3 fires, all are going on at the same time
ok so i just walked in to my garage, and my garage door was bending in slightly. i was going to open it, but didnt.
pics pics pics :)
lol.
That tree looks like Elvis, strumming a tune on an ostrich!
hahahahahaha! i see it
If you're going to take photo's of a box you could at least take the time to arrange it neatly.
You call that wind? In Soviet Russia, that's known as flatulence.
Decent cheese.
Half A Dozen Fires - One Dead - from Santa Anna Winds
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303799,00.html
gash!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox News Story
i am going to start preparing myself for the worst. Flashlight gets new batteries... thats all i have at this point
For protecton you should fill your bathtube and submerge yourself - breath through a (paper) straw.
maybe i should put some lead boots on and jump in the pool. that might be safer
make sure the pool is at least 7 feet deep.
The fire may burn you otherwise.
oh good idea.
Bring a battery operated radio into the pool - that way you can listen to music as you wait for the fire to sweep through your house.
Officially announced a few minutes ago, Arnold just declared 13 southern california counties Disaster areas, from San Deigo to LA. We have sustained winds of 40mph min. with gusts up to 80 mph, category 1 huricane winds are nothing to sneeze at unless you have a sneeze guard in place :D Hot weather too with all this week at 90-100+ degrees doesnt help.
The Ontario (Inland Empire, IE) fire is closest to me but we are nearing the end of fire season in another month or two. All those nice beach front homes destroyed in the Malibu fire along with a church and a historic castle. 1 death and several people injured/burned.
Whoot - bring marshmellow's and a banjo for sing-a-longs!!
(but take care eh!)
I have a friend close by out there in the Ontario area and a client too. I'll find out how things progress tomorrow. Good thing we moved his main office back in August to Corona (20 minutes south of Onatrio).
A couple of the fires have destroyed several homes already and most are less then 10% contained. Even a night flying helicopter making water drops using night vision googles. You know its bad when they fly in canyons at night like that.
Last night at 7:30 i lost power to the back half of my house (where my room is) from the winds. Edision is supposed to be coming some time soon. Right now my computer is plugged into an extension cord that is going out into the living room.
When i went to school this morning the wind was bad, but not too bad. After 3rd period i walked out of the class room, and the sky was orange, and the smell of ash and smoke was in the air.
My g-parents at in China for vacation, and their housing area is being evacuated so my dad had to go out there to make sure every thing is ok.
Crazy night... hopefully it will be over soon!
Just wanted to ask for some prayers for -TPM- 's house as it is so close he could see the flames. He just told me they evacuated already as it was mandetory.
sucks, as the fires have already burned 125+ homes.
Maybe this thread should be renamed. ;)
Everything is gray-ish/orange in the sky. Smells like smoke everywhere outside and inside too.
Heres the news feed for our local news channel in case you want to see some video and updates.
http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/H...Y&pageId=1.1.1
Video feed of newscast:
http://media.myfoxla.com/live/
San Deigo's Qualcomm stadium, home of the SD Chargers football team is open as a red cross shelter. Place hold something like 75K.
If the winds change direction, the fires will head for my house. Scary crap :(
Update: 14 Fires
The fires in Irvine are confirmed as arsen. They found 3 devices that were used to start the fires. Stupid idiots just have to burn things.
14 fires currently burning throughout so cal.
130 homes burned down to the ground in Lake Arrowhead. They are all in the mountains, cabin like homes.
The count of homes lost is skyrocketing.
Pres. Bush just Ok'd federal aid and help in fighting the fires.
They got one, of only 2 in the world, DC10 firefighting airplane doing some drops today too.
100's of thousands of acreas burned.
250,000 people mandetory evacuated from San Deigo so far.
New updates:
In San Deigo:
250,000+ evacuated still
1,000+ homes and businesses destroyed
Fires still out of control
LA area:
Just under 1,000 homes and businesses destroyed
About 12 fires and none contained
Fires still out of control
Bush sending 6 military C130 firefighting aircraft to help fight the fires.
National Guard due to arrive today
Its staggering to think about all the thousands of people homeless
Dollar costs lost probably over $100,000,000 they are stating
i just saw a celebrity homes at risk on the news.Quote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
seems pamela anderson's house is at risk.
I think its sad how they have been focusing on Malibu and the "stars" homes. Thats only a few and is a smaller fire then everywhere else. Look at San Diego, 1/4 million people evacuated out of their homes. I think thats more important then a handful of celebrity holmes "threatened"
Supossedly we are getting firefighting resources from many of the western states nearby.
Reminds me of the music video to Wax's song , 'California'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPT7q825gwI
You have a house with two electrical services:ehh: :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
In most houses, you lose the whole house if the power goes down, or only a single circuit if a breaker trips. To lose half the house it seems like you would have to have two electrical services into the house.
It's interesting that you are having the fires now. We had perhaps the worst fire season ever up here, but all fires were out a month or so back when the winter weather pattern arrived with cold weather and rain. We couldn't have a fire now if we wanted to, and now you are burning up.
We are in serious drought here as last year we only got 3.x" of rain total. Orange County is in water restrictions and LA county is due to apply restrictions soon too.
The other year we got that 38" record rainfall so allot of vegitation grew. Then followed by two years of drought, allot of fuel for fires. 90+ degrees, low humidity, high winds added on top of all that and you cant not help but have a huge fire.
Yah, we set an all time record low for fuel moisture (reference logs set out to measure how much moisture is in downed vegetation in the back country), and our fires burned through areas that had burned only two years back. Normally a recent burn stops fires, but not this year. The load of vegetation doesn't help either.
Of course, what DID ultimately help is that we sure don't have 90+ degrees any more. We might reach 70 today thanks to a SE wind that might spring up, but generally it has been down around freezing at night, which really knocks down the fires. We've also been getting above normal rain so far. Hopefully that continues right through the winter.
well i guess it is one line with 2 wires same circuit. BTW they got it fixed today. It was really hot today, some where in the 90'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
News Update:
"Confusion led some evacuees to head toward Qualcomm's headquarters; they were redirected to Qualcomm Stadium, where about 10,000 people huddled on Monday night."
On the radio, i heard that Prez Bush is coming down to Southern California to see this disaster for himself.
Aust. has some pretty fierce bushfires but I've always respected the Calif fires that happen year after year.
In fact - I think you guys have received our firefighters more than once. Must be scarey stuff.
It is scarry stuff.... I used to live out there, years ago.... once in high school we had to be evac'd because the fire crested the mountain and was heading straight for us... got all the way to the back fence of the school....it's pretty etherial with all the ash falling around you...
-tg
My school is out of the way from fires (unfortunately). I live close enough to the fire to get the heat, smoke and ash, but live far enough away not to catch fire. The fires are usually right over the hills by my house.
Last fire we had we almost had to be evacuated. I try to keep up with the fires by listening in with my 2 way radio and my Police Scanner.
Yes, Bush is coming over to "view" the burn areas on Thursday. I listened to his speach today and as usual he was studdering and not knowing what his specifics were. :rolleyes:
Arnold was up in Arrowhead Lake area giving a speach and sounded much better then Bush.
Bush and dclamp in the same vicinity? Looks like California's IQ is about to double! :afrog:
Ok, but seriously uhm... must be tough and erm... they ought to take more preventive measures. For the future.
yeah like removing all of the mountains? and maybe Santa Ana, it is their fault. Stupid Santa Ana winds...
They do but the problem is that no rain + heat + wind = fire. Maybe if the UK could have sent us all that floodwater from the rains they recently had we'd be in better shape :D
Our fire season is almost all year around now.
Say, you are a smoker. Where were you on Sunday?
Well i just walked out side, from being inside since 2:00pm and i would like to report that, IT IS HOTTER THEN HELL OUTSIDE. and there is lots of smoke.
and i would like to add, everyone thinks California is the most perfect place to live. WRONG. we dont have perfect weather year round. the fires suck!
Its raining ashes now too. It was 95-100 degrees today :(
6 confirmed dead so far.
gah. worst part about the fires (for me) is the ashes! i cannot stand them. I am going to go take a look outside to see how it is.
this disaster will be the reference for the people that are still not in their homes after the huracane last year in New Orleans. i think, this could be the whip that bush will be hit with.
Well he will be within striking distance on Thursday :D
I mean come on, FEMA is only giving us $5,000,000 for all of so cal. We have just over 2,000 homes burned down at an conservative estimate of $250K each is $1/2 Billion dollars and a realistic estimate of average house of $500K makes it $1 Billion dollars. Now factor in the costs of fighting the fires, business buildings lost, revenue / income lost, etc we are in great need.
Dont forget we are in a big housing market crash here too and now dump this on us. Something is going to give and break very soon. Bush cant afford not to give us more $.
On the other hand, why should the government (and me as a taxpayer) bail you out, right? I can't afford to give you more money!
The private insurance industry is alive and kicking in SoCal, so the market will take care of you all. Those that didn't have coverage - well, that was stupid of them.
i Wasn't making a debate, I feel your Plight, i just stated that Bush will be judged on his actions here. no doubt the race card will be pulled on this subject.
I believe that Bush will bend over to accomodate in this case, however he has to answer the questions about the last Big tragedy if he does.
I also believe that the Government should help out although i think this should at least be seen to be equal and can't see this occuring.
david
Please do not make this into a political slamfest.
This is a live tragedy occuring, and IMHO, such comments are off-topic.
-Lou
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Originally Posted by NotLKH
Off topic
Cough Cough
Ohh and telling a mod to keep to the topic may not be the best way forward
And i just made an observation in the first post, and who are you to dictate to me? Please let the moderators do their job and stop throwing your weight about.
if you wana discus further then start a new thread i will be happy to repond
David
FYI,
This thread has not always been '[Serious] SoCal Disaster Updates'.
The original tone was not so dire, per the original participants, and the original title:
'Gash! It is so windy right now'
Since then, it has become a mega-disaster, and as such the participants are concerned about the safety of all in harms way.
I did not dictate. And, I have remembrances of the original WTC thread that occured a while back, and how things turned ugly, and had to be deleted for a while.
Hold up here... dclamp started this thread as not serious - and I've made quite a few not-serious posts. If it is to be a serious discussion - well, that's what the World Events forum is for, and can be moved there if dclamp wishes. RobDogg added the title '[Serious]', so what is it?