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[RESOLVED] Site is impossible to navigate anymore
Sorry for creating so many feedback threads recently but it became a real pain to navigate anywhere within the VBF (not sure about other JM sites).
I really don't know what's causing this but it would be great if there is something that can be done.
The downgrade of performance is very consistent and obvious not to notice even on fast connection.
It's happening for a few days already but I think today was the worst.
Thank you.
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I was having some problems on Monday, but yesterday and so far today, things have been flying right along.
Are you having slow page loads? Time outs?
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Most of my problems (slow downs) are when I navagate back from a thread to the New posts query view. Some times it's actuall quicker to just select the New Post Menu item.
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Is this still occuring? I just did some flip flopping from New Posts and back and the page loads zipped right along.
I'm using IE7.
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Today it seems to be running good. Yesterday and Monday it was painfull
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It's alright now so was yesrterday and monday morning. Throughout the day however there are constant delays, timeouts, more dealys (and very heavy too but without the timeouts) and so on.
Last night was the worst of it.
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It has been a few hours since your last post in this thread Rhino, how are things going?
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It was as I described in the previous post but at this second it's blazing fast.
The problem that I experience is that all of a sudden it will come to a dead end and it's consistent throughout the day.
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In case anyone's wondering - navigation s a real pain at the moment.
That includes viewing, replying, etc...
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No kidding.... I just had a rather lengthy reply eaten by the system..... not happy at the moment.....
-tg
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Same problems for me...
Had 7 timeouts in half an hour...
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I get this error number of thimes last few days. Few minutes ago i got this error again and wanted to feedback :)
error:
There seems to have been a problem with the database.
Please try again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser.
An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, whom you can also contact if the problem persists.
We apologise for any inconvenience.
Thanks. VBF is a Great Forum !!!
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I was just about to start a thread on this same issue. When you click on any link, the forums take forever to load. By forever, I mean more than 5 minutes. I've only received the message Fazi stated once.
It normally happens to me at night time (after 12am EST) but I've seen it happen during the daytime also. I was going to ask at what time there is maintenance going on the forum servers to see if that was the reason for the navigation taking forever.
@ techgnome - are you not able to press the BACK button to get back to your message? I am...:ehh:
PS #1
I just actually tried to post this message and got the error Fazi stated. Now it's 2 times!
PS #2
Well, it seems I'll keep getting that error as long as I insist on submitting my reply.
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Originally Posted by drivenbywhat
@ techgnome - are you not able to press the BACK button to get back to your message? I am...:ehh: .
Answering for myself - quite often pressing the BACK button will take nowhere.
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@ RhinoBull - really? I actually find it quite rare to not be able to do so. I use FireFox. Maybe that's it?
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Well, instead of "quite often" I should've said "under the sircumstances" I guess. :)
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Originally Posted by drivenbywhat
@ techgnome - are you not able to press the BACK button to get back to your message? I am...:ehh:
Normally, yes.... but not when the site goes south.
I've given up complaining or logging when I have issues. Mainly because the site becomes so useless I can't even navigate anywhere to complain about it.
BTW slowdowns and timeouts again... in the last 5 minutes.... just trying to hit the quote button
-tg
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Yes, we are all experiencing site issues lately and the developers know about the issue. Other JM sites are having issues too so hopefully it will be something they can figure out soon. Its not a usual isolated VBF issue but spread between several of JM sites.
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Have a look at this thread please:
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=484643
I first deleted two posts but decided to keep the rest of them so mods can see what is actually going on...
{EDIT}: aparently those "extra" posts were deleted. Thanks to mods.
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That's what happens when you submit more than once when the site is slow.
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The thing is that when you [under normal conditions] hit submit button more than once within disallowed time frame you will get a warning messagewhich obviously did not happen (or does not happen) when site is very slow.
It may become a serious problem.
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Originally Posted by RhinoBull
I first deleted two posts but decided to keep the rest of them so mods can see what is actually going on...
I deleted the rest - as moderators/admins can see deleted posts anyway.
It looks like things were going quite badly for you at that point.. hopefully the people who deal with that side of things will get it all corrected soon.
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Thanks SI. The problem is it's not the first time it happened to me but first time I deleted all extras myself - I think Rob knows about that.
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Yes, RB. When the site experiences one of its "moments" the duplicate post function check isnt working correctly probably because the post hasnt actually been added yet so it cant detect that its a dup.
Usually for now Im just using the "Last Post" feature on the quick reply box which writes your reply's content t oa cookie in case the site malfunctions. Then when you get back you only have to click the last post function and it will repopulate the reply box with your content.
Also, pressing the 'x' stop button in your browser and then waiting a minimum of 10 seconds and then trying again seems to be the workaround for now. :)
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Ehh, work arrounds are still work arrounds...
Any insider's information as to when this will finally be resolved, Rob? Thanks.
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Nope, nothing yet. I am waiting for any news just like you. Its just that this is just not limited to VBF so its making it allot harder for the developers to debug.
Although, the page hangs when you reply or navigate at the x:58, x:13, x:28, x:43 minutes of the hour are allot shorter now. Something like 30 - 60 seconds vs the up to 6 minutes ones we had before.
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Alright, will keep waiting. Thanks.
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Those are very useful observations, Rob. I've passed 'em along
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Interesting thread. I've probably been on less often over the last few weeks, but it has been from various systems, and I have only seen a problem one time, and often not at all. This appears to be sporadic both in who is affected and how often.
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There are few VBF Web Designing issues as well. I have attached an screen shot. so you get the point. I am Using Redmond's IE7. I also checked it with the North Pole WebBrowser Opera. The problem varies each and every browing. But a problem exist in the bottom part of the page.
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That's a separate issue Fazi - I think you need to open a new thread for that.
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Originally Posted by RobDog888
Yes, RB. When the site experiences one of its "moments" the duplicate post function check isnt working correctly probably because the post hasnt actually been added yet so it cant detect that its a dup.
Usually for now Im just using the "Last Post" feature on the quick reply box which writes your reply's content t oa cookie in case the site malfunctions. Then when you get back you only have to click the last post function and it will repopulate the reply box with your content.
Also, pressing the 'x' stop button in your browser and then waiting a minimum of 10 seconds and then trying again seems to be the workaround for now. :)
:confused: "Last Post Feature?" eh?
Fazi - I've seen that a couple of times too.... I chalk it up to bad design on the ads themselves, not so much VBF.
-tg
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Originally Posted by techgnome
:confused: "Last Post Feature?" eh?
Fazi - I've seen that a couple of times too.... I chalk it up to bad design on the ads themselves, not so much VBF.
-tg
Techgnome, Yah it seems the adds have an isse. but the bottom part where the copyright norices are displayed have not related to the adds.
Any way the major issue at this time the the navigation. So lets move back to that topic and will start one for designing issue lator :D .
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Originally Posted by techgnome
:confused: "Last Post Feature?" eh?
In the quick reply box if you loose your connection or something you know how you loose the text you were trying to post? Well if you click the Last Post link it will restore it for you.
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Getting really slow again today. Some the the times that Rob posted and others now also.
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Well, I'll be..... never noticed that before...... wished I had known about that sooner.... I could have used it last week when the system ate some of my posts...
-tg
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it wasn't there last week. I added it because of the slow downs and timeouts.
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we've made an alteration that we hope will help with the slowdowns that occurred every 15 minutes. Please let me know if you see any change, thanks
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Thanks JP. I didn't notice your reply until now. Thanks again.
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How has it been so far today folks?
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Sticky..... had a time out at 8:44central this morning.... LastPost saved me.... had slowdowns yesterday at quarter past, half past and quarter till, off and on during the day. We'll see how today goes.
-tg
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If it starts going flaky on you again, note the times, as you did before.
Any consistencies that can be pointed out will help in diagnosing the problem.
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Well, here is what I experienced this morning:
- when navigation was very slow I would hit the stop button and then GO or Refresh button few times and page would load
- without that I would get the timeout or "page cannot be loaded" or something error.
That behavior includes replies as well but I didn't loose anything - was able to use the browser's "go back" functionality.
It's fine at the moment.
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I'm getting a lot of timeouts today (last one at 9:42) page could not be displayed. Some of the page loads are taking a long time also. I'm using IE7 with tabs I can load a new page from another location in a new tab faster then a refresh on VBFroums.
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That corresponds to similar times for me (mine are Central TZ)
8:10 - trying to get into User PAnel
8:12 - hitting Quote on a posting
8:44 - just opening VBF
-tg
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The timeout problem that has been going for the past week or two is still happening at the same clip on my end.
If pressed, I'd say it started at the same time as the new banner was added.
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the timing may have coincided, but it's occurring on sites which don't even have the toolbar, so it's pure coincidence
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Real slow again 1:16 - 1:18 EST
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But if the problem isn't found yet, wouldn't it be easier to shutdown the forums for some hours and reset the servers as the problem most probably lies there?
I'd say it's at least worth a shot...
EDIT: With reset I mean reinstall
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With one site it's easy (more or less) but when you have two dozen or so and everyone of them is ads driven then it wouldn't be as simple.
Also, the advertisers might need to be notified so it's an extreme if you ask me and it should always be the very last thing you do - basically when you run out of idea.
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Originally Posted by TheBigB
But if the problem isn't found yet, wouldn't it be easier to shutdown the forums for some hours and reset the servers as the problem most probably lies there?
I'd say it's at least worth a shot...
EDIT: With reset I mean reinstall
We're not talking about Windows here. :D
Server issues are harder to diagnose and fix than simply "reinstalling" and it's possible that is a network issue rather than a software one.
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It could also be a bad network card or a bad port on the switches etc. Very hard to diagnose and determine. They are aware of all of this and are actually working on the problems. Some changes have been applied and the site is getting better. :)
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Originally Posted by RhinoBull
Also, the advertisers might need to be notified so it's an extreme if you ask me and it should always be the very last thing you do - basically when you run out of idea.
I agree with both sentiments.
And, it is getting better.
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Irony -= I just experienced a slowdown, pulling up THIS page... 8:33-8:34 central (GMT -6)
-tg
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It is 9:54 EST here, and I haven't an any problems all morning (maybe having all fingers and toes crossed really does work. :D )
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Originally Posted by Hack
...maybe having all fingers and toes crossed really does work...
:lol: Since yesterday very mimor issues so I'll keep mine crossed as well but it's darn blazing fast at the moment (just couldn't resist not to mention). :)
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No, the sites been puking lately and getting no news (vb wire) which causes the page to hang when loading, can not display page errors, and general very slowness.
http://www.vbforums.com/
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It seems the problem only occurs during weekdays. Not weeknights, and not on the weekends. I assume that means the issue is load related.