Opera is now 100% completely FREE and ad-removed, which makes it more fast and feature packed then Firefox! :afrog:
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Opera is now 100% completely FREE and ad-removed, which makes it more fast and feature packed then Firefox! :afrog:
Great, now it just needs to display pages properly and get accepted by more online banking systems :D
I'm going to run both then.. and only then... i will give thee a verdict :ehh:
Hopefully Opera will take some of IE's share also. Between Fx and Op (?) they should take back the monopoly on browsers
I still prefer FF's interface and extensions. Besides, Opera doesn't exist in a 64-bit version.
They'll probably release a 64-bit version to tie in with the Windows Longhorn/Vista (or whatever they're calling it now)
As long as Fx has the extensions I'm with Fx. I will not abondon my Fx extension for Opera...:)
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Doesn't Opera identify itself as IE?
When it stops doing that by default, its share should magically go up!
I'm trying it out at the moment and a couple of things have struck me, both regarding bookmarks. I can't seem to get rid of the Amazon,Download,eBay Bookmarks, so not quite add free. Secondly is Opera the only browser to use Ctrl+T for adding bookmarks? After using Firefox for so long whenever I go to open a new tab I keep bookmarking the page.
Oh and when you double click on an exe in the Transfers page it dosn't give you any warning that your about to launch something that may be unsafe, which I think would be nice.
For now I'm still leaning towards Firefox but thats more to do with the time I've invested in getting to know it and of course the extensions the "Undo Close Tab" is the best.
That extension is a waste of time.
It is incorporated into the mighty Tab Mix extension!
https://addons.mozilla.org/extension...rowsing&id=625
"Still think Firefox is best? "
Yes I do. Thanks for asking.
fire fox rules...
Well, seems like they are having a problem with version control.
First FoxClocks lost an hour after an update.
Then, my auto reloader freaked out. I set it to refresh a page every five minutes, and at unrelated times, it would refresh constantly. Usually I could catch it by noticing the slowdown, or the blinking tab. I missed it one time, and got an angry letter from the site asking why I refreshed their site ONE MILLION TIMES!
I deleted the refresher, but just modified the time in FoxClocks.
I wish they'd get things sync'ed.
IE for teh win! I've tried almost all the alternatives, I always fall back on IE. Probably cuz its so integrated into Windows.
Opera can be identified as Opera, Firefox or IE :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by agmorgan
If you deleted them from the Manage bookmarks window, delete them from trash too :afrog:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadEyes
i find that quite surprising, since it is one of the main reasons that people move away from IE.Quote:
Originally Posted by JensPeder
until Opera gets the VBF firefox extension, it has nothing on firefox. :afrog:
I'm currently trying Opera but what I noticed is it seems to "hang" (Not Responding)... :(
ahh got it thanks MadboyQuote:
Originally Posted by Madboy
Internet Explorer rules!
I <3 M$FT
Ive never had that problem, how much RAM do you have? I only have 128.0Mb and running XP with Opera, never hangs for meQuote:
Originally Posted by dee-u
I've got 256... :(
I am assuming you mean the search bar in the top right corner?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadEyes
If so these can be deleted from the \searchplugins directory in the Mozilla Firefox directory :thumb:
he meant the menu bar ones
Haven't got any ads in my bookmarks at all. Strange. Must have deleted them but it was some time ago so can't remember how to do it
Heathen! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by tylerm
They are toolbars that you can unselect.
I like the fact that Opera has a theme engine, you can easy browse themes, download and if you dont like delete it from the same window.
You can also download Text>Speech Plug-ins and more
Fx also has a great theme engine, and more extensions than you can poke a stick at...Quote:
Originally Posted by Madboy
Fx has plenty of themes and extensions. All can be easily added or removed.
Tried Opera for a couple of days and I'm staying with firefox although Opera seems faster than ff.
Was there something about Opera you didn't like?
I love firefox. It can be recognized as anything you want it to be. Open up firefox, put about:config in the address bar. and you can change almost anything including the user agent.
An alternate way would be to get the plugin that pretty much does this for you called User-Agent Switcher (simple enough, eh?). Then you can make firefox show up as Opera, IE (any version), Netscape, or make a custom one.
And the greatest thing of all about Firefox is its AdBlock plugin that lets you block anything matching a list of criteria you have. Suppose I don't want anything from a subdomain called ads. (eg: ads.ebay.com), I'd just put in http://ads.* and boom. If I see an annoying ad I dont like, i can right click it and go to Adblock Image. simple as that.
Also:
Not true. I do not know about the speed comparison, but it's not as feature packed. I could not find anywhere on opera's Features page about extentions. I also couldn't find a feature that isn't available on firefox (either integrated or available as an extention). There were also extentions for firefox that Opera does not have (the user agent switcher, among many others)Quote:
Originally Posted by Madboy
Yes. I still think Firefox is the best.
Ditto. :)
:thumb:
Well said
Heres a quest for you lot then, use Firefox for 3 days, list your problems, then same for Opera. Its a biased test as you will all say Firefox is problem free when Opera isnt
Last time I tried Opera, it crashed within 5 minutes ;)
Admittedly, though, it was a beta running in a hostile environment (64-bit Linux).
You do that, since you have both. List out the complaints with each one, and post them here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madboy
As you said, The test will be biased. I will not say Opera is better, and you probably wont say Firefox is better. The test is no use. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madboy
I love the AdBlock feature. I couldn't tell you the last time a spyware scan came back with any results.
Advertisements on websites have become increasingly popular. Most every house in the USA has a computer with internet connection. Businesses know that advertising on the internet is very effective and well worth their money. However, some businesses are very obnoxious and annoying. For instance, the Flash ad that has the person who just starts talking. Or the one with the Mortal Kombat rip-off fighting game where you "win a free iPod for killing the guy" etc. It's very annoying, and not what I want to suddenly hear at 3am.
I will not be willing to switch or even try another browser unless said browser has a very equal feature.
Also, Another feature that is really cool. There is a website called DeviantART of which I am a member. There is actually a FireFox extention to SKIN that page. This means that it changes the color scheme and layout. Can Opera do that? Didn't think so.
All in all, a very important feature in any web browser is extentions. No dev team can come up with a product that will suit everyone. That's what's great about FireFox. Its dev team is anyone who would like to go download a copy of the source and edit it to fit their needs, or anyone who would like to make an extention.
With Opera you can set to refresh the webpage at any time you want, so you could go for a shower and as you come back the page has reloaded for you :)
Auto-reload extension for Firefox exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madboy
It's pretty simple: if Opera has a cool feature, you can be sure that there's a Firefox user out there who'd rather implement it as an extension than switch to Opera. Voila, Firefox has the feature too.
That example was one of the worst I've ever seen. For the plain reason that it doesn't work very well. However, there are practical uses for the reload and I have had the extension a few weeks ago. I don't have it anymore, because at the time I switched to using beta, it wasn't available for it.
I still don't really see a point raising up Firefox vs. Opera discussions: they're almost in the same boat basically. Both Firefox and Opera render the standards pretty well. The biggest difference comes from the thing, that Opera is a free closed source program whereas Firefox is a free open source program. So really, you'd be fighting for that.
Of course there are the basic feature differences, though the newest Opera is so close to Firefox in appearance that many unknowleadgeable don't even distinguish the two from each other.
But for the point: if you use anything else than IE, I'm fine with that. And so should you, because it all makes the web a better place overall and makes the future bliss of easy web development finally to come true. Note that I'm not against IE7 yet as it looks like it'll support a lot of stuff better than IE6. When it finally comes.
Still would never use IE, even if it made beer, actually id change now if it did :)
I used to use the Fx Reloader, until it freaked out once too often. I got a call asking why I refreshed the page 1 million times over a period of a few days. I stated that Fx Reloader freaked out a few times, and refreshed continuously until I shut down and re-opened Fx.
I used it to not get auto-logged out of a system every 15 minutes. I had to agree to remove it before they'd let me access the server again! They were talking about increasing the timeout period to a few hours, but nothing's changed since.
I would look into Opera if I thought it worked, though. I'd get banned if it happened again, though.
I also have a problem with the new version of FoxClocks, which I worked around.
It changed the time for my timezone by an hour. I just substituted the next time zone as the correction, and it's working fine. Maybe daylight savings time will resolve things.
The refresh thing is built in, and ive had no problems yet, very useful for refreshing discussion boards
that's one point in its favor then
Was it Reload Every you used or some other extension?
I'm pretty sure that it was Reload Every. It was the only one that I could find on the extension page.
This?
I've never tried Opera, but I love FF's ctrl+L shortcut that highlights the location for you.
I always press F6 for that. Which I think works in IE too.
Yes. That was it. I had it set to 5 minutes, and it would just freak out sometimes, and refresh constantly. When I tried it with vbf, it did the same thing when it freaked.
Hey, it does work in IE too. That's good to know, but I still don't plan on using IE.Quote:
Originally Posted by CornedBee
I made a great reloader in VB6 back in the day. It was far better than anything for FireFox or Opera tbh. It had a lot of features that either browser doesn't really need. You could set it to reload as often as you like down to the milisecond or to reload as soon as the page finished. You could also have it reload an unlimited array of URLs randomly. You could have up to 3 minibrowsers reloading at once, and you could have them stop reloading if the page contained specific data.
Another point I'd like to make about FireFox is the incredible amount of PUBLISHED books about how to increse it's speed. The speed test results you provided show that firefox is not the fastest, but it was in the top 5 for each test. With just the knowledge of only one of the books, I'm sure the top 5 could be changed to top 1.
I need it for a secured site. It's asp, also, so kind of hard to parse.
Post the code or a link and I'll try it though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dglienna
You need my reloader?
It just uses the default webbrowser control in vb6.
I'd like to see the code. Post a link and I'll see if it works any better.
Alright. I'd like to forewarn you that this was not written for anyone else to see to be quite honest, so there's a lot of "magic numbers".
There's also a bug in how I save the URLs in the list to a .cfg file (or some kind of file... I dunno) and it usually misses one or something. I found this bug at about the same time I quite VB6 and moved to C#, and didn't even attempt to find what causes it and fix it.
ANYWHO! here's the source. do with it what you please.
http://www.clankoa.com/reloader.rar