Which would you recommend, win2000 or XP? I kinda like the classic style of win2000....
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Which would you recommend, win2000 or XP? I kinda like the classic style of win2000....
As you wish
I hope someone would provide the advantages over each other.... What features will I miss if I'll use Win2000 instead of XP?
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I feel that WinXp is more bloated. But some apps like and libraries only run on WinXP, that is more or less the only differenece I find. So if I could choose, I would have choosen Win2k, but since I can't do DirectX programming anymore in Win2K, I had to buy WinXP.... :rolleyes:
PS: Win2K is pretty soon not supported anymore...
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Not supported in what aspect? Would you believe that there are still win98's here in our place? There might probably win95 still!!!! :bigyello:
Yeah of course there is. There is a lot of old machines out there. But they never upgrade other aps either do they? The problem is when you want to have the newest of the newest apps on your machine. Check if all the apps you want can run on a win2k machine. If so, then go for it. If not, then you know you don't have a choice like me. And also check out if there is a new version comming like VS.NET 2005, if you think you will ever use it then you have to check if those apps can run on Win2K too.
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I have heard that SQL Server 2005 is coming, is it true?
Yes, that is true, but it is still in Beta...not sure when it is comming, but it can't be more then 6months away..:)
BTW, why did you say that you should have chosen win2k instead of XP? Personally I like better the GUI of win2k than XP, I like that Recycle Bin icon in win2k!
As I said in my first post, I feel that WinXP is more bloated. It is more or less Win2K with a circus tent dragged over it. I am using WinXP now, but I have changed all the menues and stuff so it looks like WIn2K, but I would still have prefered Win2K because it was faster...
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There are even 3.1 my friend. Don't be so info-technologically shock.Quote:
Originally Posted by dee-u
They still exists in your place? I have seen one maybe last 1997-1998 but not now....
I like that, and couldn't agree more, except, I think they added a lot of clowns and a freak show.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoteMe
I use Win2K, WinXP-home, and Win98 every day.
Win2k: stable, few surprises, pretty much keeps its promises.
WinXP: quirky, mind of its own, makes me curse more than probably anything else because I feel lost when it "doesn't" crash.
More and more like Hal of 2001.
Win98: old friend, has its flaws but I know how to handle them. Does just what I need it to do.
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Originally Posted by DaveBo
I also use Windows 98 still.... I really disslike the way that XP takes control of somethings away from you....
Cheers,
RyanJ
Win XP Professional - the only choice.
If you are developing for the marketplace, learn to like XP, it's look and style and simply get with the program.
My customers are all on XP Prof (XP Home is not the same framework as XP Prof at all). As a developer, I have to support the choices they make in all ways.
Bingo! I never really got into WinXP until I had to because, like szlamany, I'm a commercial developer, and to a business, all of my clients have WinXP Pro as their standard desktop OS. After dealing with it for a while, I'm actually starting to kinda, sorta, like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by szlamany
You can change it, i went from Win98 to XP Pro SP2, its a heck of a lot more stable, not sure about Win2x, never used it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dee-u
If you search google a few results come up with comparisons
I had Windows 2000 installed on my computer for a while - it was quite stable and had some good features. In the end I decided to go back to Windows 98 because Windows 2000 was more tsuited to a multi-person system than a single user computer like mine :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Madboy
I had Windows XP in my computer for less than 20 minutes before I formatted the hard drive and put Windows 98 abck in :)
Cheers,
RyanJ
I just don't get it - why would you want to use a 7 year old OS - when no one else is using it?Quote:
Originally Posted by sciguyryan
How about hardware - drivers - USB - all the things that are now available, that Win98 doesn't do?
In XP you can have automatic logon for each user. No need to enter passwords,etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by sciguyryan
XP can be set to use the "Classic" windows style which is the look of 2000. XP is allot more stable then 98 and its BSOD!
I too didnt want to change but found myself falling behind in the development area so I upgraded and now I wont go back. XP is great and
with SP-2 I think its better then 2000.
Nicely commented, the new SP2 Framework V1.1 is a must of have, do you even get BSOD's?
What i like most about XP is the fact that if one application stops responding, rather than freezing the whole system (forcing restart, a common problem in Win98), you can just close the one program and continue working.
Infact, i have had my PC for about 2 weeks now, i would never go back to Win98, because it never crashes!
That's the whole point of XP Prof - built upon the strong NT world - not the home-use Win9x world.
Memory management - much better. Task processing - much better.
The only time I ever got a BSOD with XP Prof was when my hard-drive was starting to fail and the registry hive was appearing corrupt - wasn't really corrupt - was really a bad sector (wish I figured that out before the whole drive died!)...
I swore I would never upgrade to the XP OS and I will not.
The next upgrade I plan to use is the Longhorn one released next year :)
Cheers,
RyanJ
Only in 98 I have gotten BSODs but in 2000 I got only one during the course of 4 years. Now with XP none yet but its been only 9 months.
Longhorn is nothing more then what they did with Windows ME marketing to multimedia features, etc. XP will still be better plus LonghornQuote:
Originally Posted by sciguyryan
is not going to be including the WinFS because they are having problems and cant meet the deadline, which is being pushed back again.
So what is Windows Server 2003 about? Is that an OS? :confused:
Sure is. Its an OS that "serves" other workstations in a networked environment.
Its services can be configured for it to be a Domain Controller, Web Server, etc.
So its not used for Home use, and that means XP Pro SP2 is the latest OS, for your home anyway? :confused:
The SERVER OS options from MS (Small Business Server, Windows Server 2000, 2003) are designed to run server boxes - not workstation/desktop boxes.
Different layers of tools - like no OUTLOOK client - but all kinds of ADMIN tools.
But for workstation/desktop use, XP Professional is my choice - whether in my office (where we have about a dozen workstations connected to a Small Business Server 2000 server network) or at home (or my laptop!).
Any computer can run Server OS' as long as they are powerful enough to handle the extra resources used in running
server services and utilities, etc.
I have Windows Server 2003 at home running on a P4 768 Mbs of RDRAM w/2 - 80 Gb drives.
Also, on the same system, I am running SQL 2000 Standard and Exchange 2003.
On my main workstation also at home I am running XP Pro on a P4 2.8 Ghz Hyper threading
800FSB w/1 Gb of Dual channel RAM w/ Dual RAID Mirrors (one mirror of 2 80 Gb ATA
drives and the second mirror of 2 120 Gb SATA drives).
I have a combination hardwired/wireless network of 1 server and 5 workstations running Windows 2000 Pro - XP Pro all with 1500/384 DSL.
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Win98 vs WinXP
Hey, if 98 does what you need, then forcing yourself to use something else seems masochistic.
I agree with keeping up with the times etc. but, as an analogy:
when my son the mechanic wants to change a tire, he fires up the compressor, hooks up the air hose and prepares the pneumatic drill etc.
I use a lug wrench. Not as flashy, expensive, or noisy, but it works!
WinXP Home vs Pro. ?
Isn't the Home version just the Pro with some features disabled?
Yes, the biggest one is that you cant network the Home version.
But if you use a lug wrench you may bust a knuckle if your not careful. Using the pneumatic wrench is safer and easier and
sounds really cool. :D
You can remove the "theming" lag completely from Windows XP if you wish.
Right Click on My Computer, Select "Properties"
Switch to the "Advanced" Tab
In the preformace group box Click "Settings"
Select custom, and uncheck anything you dont need/want. ( I only have "Use Common Tasks In Folders", "Use Drop shadows for Desktop Icon Labels")
Next:
Start --> Run
Type "services.msc" and press Enter
Find the Service named "Themes"
Double Click on it and Change the startup type to "Manual" and then Click the stop button.
Then how is my network somehow surviving ?Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
2 WIN XP Home SP2 Box's over wireless router to connect to eachother and 2000/288 adsl...
By networking - IPSEC - that kind of stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreatone
Remote Desktop...
Remote Assist...
That kind of stuff.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by szlamany
I would love to be able to use remote desktop because my sister i forever asking me for help, and i'm lazy, so that would be nice :)
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Originally Posted by szlamany
Not sure if anyone has mentioned in this in the thread furuther down, but just had to mention this...win98SE is supporting USB...;)
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Originally Posted by szlamany
It is the same with Win2K...;)...Had my machine running 24/7 for more then 3 years, only rebooting when I installed new apps when and they required it. Never had a BSOD; and yes it is buildt on the NT platform.
Win2K is a mix of 9x and the NT platform. It has the stability and network capabilities of NT, and the plug and play futures of Win9x. And XP has the same, it is not a rebuild but an "upgrade" of Win2K.
When XP came out, my job sendt me to a MS course, about what the new OS. The MS guy said that there was only 2 big differences on the HOME and PRO version.
PRO has the encryption possibilites, and PRO has the possibilities for domains. Something home doesn't. Or at least not the same way. So that is why companies use the PRO version, because they need if for their big netwoorks but home users don't usualy need it so they can get a HOME edition. Except from that the capabilities is more or less the same.
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Noteme - I think it's old urban legend that I've heard in the past about XP Home and XP Prof having different origins and frameworks...
I cannot find anything to back that up now - so I assume it's just that - garbage information.
I've got a very old PC with NT running a video-editing suite in my office - never get BSOD or reboot that baby either.
But while we are on the topic....I am a bit confused here. When I first heard about Longhorn, the article said that they where making a new OS from scratch. Then later on, I read that they where going to build it on Win03server, then a swiss guy told me that it became too slow, so they ditched it, and are now building it from the XP platform....anyone knows whats true here. I am tired of googling for today..:)
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I am 99% sure that Longhorn is built on .NET, unlike W2k-XP etc. Therefore, yes it is a completely new architecture.
It's being built from scratch, .NET based, many cool new features. Trust me on this, I've seen it ;)
I have seen a video of it...and I like that your GPU should do more work for the desktop....:)...GPU p4wns *
I would havebeen nice to have a look at the build 5048 beta, unfortunately I couldn't find it (seemingly only shown at presentations/conferences/reviews etc)
Just a video? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NoteMe
I went to a conference a while back (like the one penagate is talking about), where they showed us a sneak preview of it. I am under a Non-Disclosure-Agreement though, so I can't talk about it. :)
I can't see why they want to show it to some people and then telling them not to talk about it. What is the point...grrr....well...yeah I only saw a video. But who cares...it is miles away anyway..:)
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They show it to a few people for their feedback. I believe it's important to them.
Speaking of feedback, another random fact of the day: The band U2 was originally called "Feedback" :ehh:
Ohhh yeah...I guess that is importent to them. Good point. Totaly missed that one..:)...was only thinking about the show off way of it...:)
So did you get the opertunity to fill out some kind of form, or speak right to them about it?
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My computer would only be standalone (I dont have budget yet to buy many computers) but I think it would also be used in LAN if ever I need to.... So what's the best? XP in Classic View?
XP Pro. The theme is your personal preference ;)