You asked, we delivered. Reputations are about to be turned on. Check the above announcement for more information.
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You asked, we delivered. Reputations are about to be turned on. Check the above announcement for more information.
Brad!
Everyone starts with 5 points of reputations automatically. See the FAQ for more information.
Brad!
Wow, finaly...thanks a lot. Hope it is not going to get missused. I love you..ehhh..not in that way. But still. Thanks a bunch.
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I can see that it is turned off in the ChitChat section. Maybe it is an idea to do that with the test section too?
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Yes, it is turned off in the Chit Chat forum and I think it is suppossed to
be off in a few other forums as well. I will check.
Would there really be a post in the Testing forum worth rating? Hmmm....
Regardless, it is a good suggestion and will be turned off there too.
The idea is to recognize those that help others. Hopefully postitive rating points will be given to those that provide technical help (the focus of this forum) and so that the super helpers will float to the top.
Brad!
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Originally Posted by brad jones
[Edit] I can see you answered this in CC now...:) [/edit]
Well that was more or less my point. There is non there. And that is probably why it was shut off in the first place in teh ChitChat section. So it won't be missused.
Well I have one other question. Is there any possibility to actualy check the points a person has?
I can check my own points by trying to give my self points, but what about others. Is it only the green dots? I can't see anything about it in the FAQ either.
Well I can at least see that the member page has it ranked all ready. And it looks like Pirate got the first points. But I can't see his number of points:
http://vbforums.com/memberlist.php?&...ion&pp=30<r=
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One other thing, is there a way to view your Power level? I know we can calculate
it ourselves, but I was wondering if it would show somewhere in case you
wanted to see someone else's Power.
I noticed that Martin has disabled "reputation" - can I do that as honestly I couldn't care less. Thanks.
Only admins can disable reputation from displaying. I'd prefer everyone leave it on.
Brad!
One last one..:)
Is it possible to MAKE people to write a comment for posting positive or negative points. I just found it very irritating to get a negative remark when I tried to help someone. Made me realy feel that I didn't want to help him again if I am not even getting any comment on why.
[Edit] Is it possible to add to the list who gave you the vote too?
I know you would prefer it and I apologize in advance, Brad, for annoying the heck of you but I do not want this option so how would I disable it? Or is it possible that you would do that for me? What's the problem? I just don't get it? Personally, I am not (nor I ever will be) after any points race what so ever ...Quote:
Originally Posted by brad jones
The problem is if EVERYONE starts to ask him. That will be like if everyone wanted him to make a costum name with colors. He would have a full time job. So if you don't care about it. Why not just let it be there. And don't care about it. Look at Marty. Even he has it on now.
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This is exactly WHY I don't need this - politics, politics, politics ... disgusting as they are ... This new "feature" will irritate people more than you think it may help ... Whoever came up with this idea didn't realize many things I'm afraid ... Sorry if this offence anybody but that's what I feel like at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoteMe
My very best regards to everyone on this board and beyond. :wave:
I am only speaking for myself - I do not need it and I don't really care who does. As simple as that. Period.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoteMe
Would it be possible to make the comments field a little bit bigger?
If I want to give someone a point I usually have a reason and that reason will be more than the 10-or-so letters that fit in that tiny box :)
Thanks!
(A bigger box might also make ppl feel like they should really use it...)
Is the RSS feed on, also? It says something to that effect in the FAQ
No, RSS feeds are not on. I believe there was a thread here in the FF Forum
a while ago on it. Not too sure if it will be turned on though.
Just noticed that a new user with 15 posts was able to submit a rep to me, although
it was zero points I think. I thought they were not able to add a rep unless
they had more then 20? Bug? Not that it really matters. Guess I'm just being
a perfectionist :D
i think it's 20 to GET a reputation of +5
I think it still lets you get the feedback (ie. the comment) but just you won't get the points for it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Yes, that is how itQuote:
Originally Posted by Electroman
worked. I just assumed that if they didnt have the 20 then it wouldnt allow
the feedback.
Just checking, thats all.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by RobDog888
Bulleted comments -
- Anyone can rate a post. If you don't qualify (i.e. don't have enough posts), then no points will be give, but the comment will show up. This allows people to leave feedback, but with no impact on the total because they don't yet qualify
- Only admins can turn of their reputation and I've asked all admins to leave it on.
- If you don't care about reputation and post ratings, then simply ignore it. This really isn't about seeing who has the best reputation, it is about seeing who (on indivdiual average) gives good responses. A few negative ratings are likely to happen, but if you are helpful, your overall rating should be positive.
- If someone gives one of your posts a negative rating and you think it is *truly* unfair, let an admin know. Negative reputations done with no basis will be looked into if reported. People taking such actions could have their accounts suspended. In other words, we take ratings seriously.
- Rating posts/reputations is not a new concept. I've been working with it within vBulletin on CodeGuru for several months. I also worked with it for a couple of years on CodeGuru before we switched to vBulletin. We've seen and are aware of many of the issues. Give time for ratings to build up. In six months or a year, the reputation ratings will seem different because there will be a build up of ratings.
- I've gotten comments about things that don't deserve negative ratings that could get them. This forum has a lot of sarcastic posts as well as responses telling people to "get a clue". Sarcasm is often read wrong and telling someone to get a clue (whether they need to or not) is never really polite. Don't be surprised if those types of posts get rated negatively. Make sure it is clear if your posts are sarcasm, etc.
- There are a few people worried about getting negative reputations. The easy answer is to watch what you post. After all, when you post something, it never really goes away.
If I missed responding to a comment, let me know.
Brad!
I couldn't see the answer to these two.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoteMe
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I think that there should be a sticky asking people to rate the threads that they read. If it is something helpful, then it should be rated as such. If someone helps solve a problem, then they should get a good comment. You don't have to mention the points, as they're secondary.
Most people will give a postive rating if asked to, but I think that it should be asked of everyone.
Once everyone warms to the idea it will start to be used more. Besides, if you only give good advice, what is there to worry about? :D
A lot of people on other forums have added a line to their signature. Something like what I've added to mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by dglienna
The two missed answers....
- Right now it is not possible (from what I've seen) to force a comment to be entered. This is something when can look into.
- Right now the setting to show who posted a post rating (reputation) is turned off. This may be turned on in the future if we find people abusing things. Admins can see who rated a post, so if you believe there is an unjust post, feel you can contact us and we can look into it. Be aware, however, that everyone is entitled to an opinion, so negative reputation points will happen. If you are helpful, however, then the few negative you might get will be overshadowed by the positive.
Thanks for the answers. Guess I will have to ask next time then when I don't understand why I got it.
Thanks
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And why is that ? Do you care for rating ?Quote:
Originally Posted by dglienna
Quote:
Originally Posted by RhinoBull
Is that bad?
BTW I am not sure if it gives a good indication after all. A lot of members stays for one or two questions and results in black non counting ratings...:)
I hate to be point-chasing, but if i do ask someone, they will give a point. I guess I over-emphasize things. I was surprised that I was in the top 10, with others having over 30. I didn't change my sig to put in a request. I may just decide to do that.
I believe so ... it's for people that do care about politics ... it's a disease ...Quote:
Originally Posted by NoteMe
But you are or at least it looks that way. :ehh:Quote:
Originally Posted by dglienna
I meant by hustling them in my signature. I will ask for one if I think that I've helped someone, and the point will verify it.
I don't believe it is bad to ask people to rate posts they find useful.
Brad!
Well, I do and there is a reason - Only ambitious person can do that but since this is a public forum then ambitiousness isn't necessary something that needs to be shown.
I'm less than amibitious, I assure you, but I think it's a decent system. It's gotten me to throw some help out where I can in the past couple of days. I'd gotten away from that recently unfortunately.
An ordinary "Thank you" is good enough for me ...
those are just as few and far-between.
and then one guy voted too early, and asked "Did I make an oopsy?"
I still helped him.
The more people who add a link to their signature the quicker the concept of reputations will spread. Likewise I see no harm in asking a member who is clearly happy with the help you have given them to give a little back by adding to your reputation, it doesn't cost them money and I doubt it takes more than 20 seconds.
I've posted code here to add to signatures:
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=321430
What are you talking about ??? What is this - a city council or something ???Quote:
Originally Posted by visualAd
Reputaion system is totally pointless. I'm here to help and that is THE ONLY PURPOSE for me being here. As simple as that and I don't care for anything else - do you ???
Cheers. :wave:
I am not up for any arguing here. But I think we have understood what you feel about it. Let those who care - care, and then those who care won't bug you. Thats how simple it is. You never asked about turning of the post count did you. So why make so much fuzz about this. Just leave it, and let the world move on.
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No!!!! Its a community ....Quote:
Originally Posted by RhinoBull
We are all here to help each other. Reputations encourage more of a community spirit and introduce some friendly competition, I see no harm in it, it can only do good.
I am afraid exact opposite ...Quote:
Originally Posted by visualAd
You may be missing the fact that reputations serve two purposes. One they allow people to say thanks in a lasting way, but perhaps more importantly they provide an indication of who to listen to when advice is given, or whose code to use when more than one solution is offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by RhinoBull
Like you I'd do it (and obviously have done it) without getting recognized, but I'm not ashamed to say that I like it when I am recognized.
How? :confused:
I assume you're asking Rhino.Quote:
Originally Posted by visualAd
I said before and I'd say again (as many times as it takes: ordinary "Thank you" is more than enough but more ofthen it's difficult to get even that little. :sick:Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinLiss
I like it that way ... :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinLiss
Was that the reason you "reputated" me (I happened to believe that was you so if not then I appologize up front) in the way it was done?Quote:
Originally Posted by NoteMe
EDIT: btw, I also want to mention this:
since this new reputation system is here to stay (I stand defited but not because I agree) then I suggest that Feedback forum will have this option disable: people getting rep for expressing personal opinion(s) - rediculous ...
Appology Accepted.
I honestly don't see the rating system as a personal goal.
I feel it's purely here so that noobs, or any other users for that matter, can easily see which users are a reliable source of info. This benefits others, not yourself.
When you help someone, and another user clearly posts rubbish, and the person you are trying to help opts for the rubbish response, then it's frustrating. Why should I go to the effort when my advice is ignored? These don't happen very often for me and I am sure you have been in similar situations in the past. I think it's a good way to distinguish "good" users from "bad" uers (excuse my terminology there)
Anyways, I'm not going to rant on about it anymore :D Each to their own I suppose.
Do you want to disable post count too? JOKING ;)
I prefer not to think of reputations and post ratings as a competition. In that regard, I agree with Rhino. I prefer to see it as Marty has said, an easy way to say thanks/"you helped". And a way (in the future) to see who is generally recognized as having been helpful.
Brad!
I think Negative Reputation votes should count for 0 points instead of deducting between 1, and 10! 0 points should generate a RED square. That way, everyone has the same view.
That's not going to happen. You win some and you lose some and we'll all have to live with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dglienna
I have to agree with Marty there. But isn't negative points half of the power. Or is it just I that thought that?
Thats correct :).Quote:
Originally Posted by NoteMe
BTW dglienna did you mean to say 0 or did you mean 1? I would have understood your point if you said all negative votes are power 1 but then again I reckon it works how it is :).
nope. if you give 10 points per approval rating, you also deduct 10 for each disapproval (negative) rating.
Right now, the only ones that give ratings with 0 are newbies.
It would be just as good taking -1, but then there should be a rating for Positive, Neutral (0), and Negative.
I didn't think they'd change that, so I suggested all or none (0).