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I'm getting one of those XP error messages about MS Messenger crashing when I log into the computer. I assumed Messenger was scheduled to load automatically but I couldn't find any reference on the register (CurrentUser/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Run) so maybe that's not the place to look for it?
If yo simply want to see if it is one of the items on startup i would just goto Run and type in msconfig and then click on the startup tab to see if it starts automatically with the computer. If you want to find it in the registry the best thing to do is do a search for msnmsgr.
Try this program to manage your startup http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml it shows you everything that loads in their respected areas and very easy to add and mange your startup programs.
That's a good applet, thank you.Quote:
Originally posted by Ideas Man
Try this program to manage your startup http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml it shows you everything that loads in their respected areas and very easy to add and mange your startup programs.
I couldn't find it with any of these 2 methods. It is surprising that it wasn't in the registry either, are you sure the syntax is exactly msnmsgr?Quote:
Originally posted by System_Error
If yo simply want to see if it is one of the items on startup i would just goto Run and type in msconfig and then click on the startup tab to see if it starts automatically with the computer. If you want to find it in the registry the best thing to do is do a search for msnmsgr.
I can see that MSN starts up with SpyBot Search and Destroy, using the advanced menu. Have you tried that?
No..Not sure if that is exactly what it is.
This is what I can see...but I am running Win2K tho'...
http://vbforums.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=1744932
If something is running on startup, then it is under HKLM or HKCU or in the startup folder. Use REGEDIT, that's what it's there for ;) i think windows messenger puts something in startup, not too sure.
The thing is I didn't find anything under HKLM or HKCU, nor in Startup. That's why I was asking in an earlier post whether the exact word to search for was mnsmsgr or messenger or msnmsg, or something else.Quote:
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
If something is running on startup, then it is under HKLM or HKCU or in the startup folder. Use REGEDIT, that's what it's there for ;) i think windows messenger puts something in startup, not too sure.
The error message is really plagueing my desktop ever more often.
Dude i dont know what else to say, lol
Its usually under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
Just ask what I posted above (or say no more :D )Quote:
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
Dude i dont know what else to say, lol
"That's why I was asking in an earlier post whether the exact word to search for was mnsmsgr or messenger or msnmsg, or something else."
why dont you take a screenshot of your registry under the startup keys, and post it, here is what mine looks like. you shouldnt have anything under these keys unless it is necessary, because it slows down your boot up time into windows and slows down your pc in general.
http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.p...postid=1746352
Include the Run keys from both HKCU and HKLM. They both have run Keys that can launch progs at startup.
P.S.
What happenned to the RunServices keys? They used to let you run a service before User Logon.
i think in xp you have to do some special crap to register a service. i dont think there is a reg key.
There is a regkey that points to the services, it's located at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\CurrentControlSet\Services
I don't have that key.
That's Windows XP, Windows 2000 BTW.
I have XP Pro and its not there.
OOps, sorry, forgot a key, it should be HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services
Now that I have :bigyello: Do you think you can put your own key in there and have it run on startup?
Maybe, but I highly recommend against it. If you have Microsoft Visual Studio .NET, use the installutil utility to install a service, it's designed to install a Windows service you write, but you may be able to do it for other programs.
This is what my relevant keys look like.Quote:
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
why dont you take a screenshot of your registry under the startup keys, and post it, here is what mine looks like.
Well i know for a fact you can safely deleteQuote:
Originally posted by krtxmrtz
This is what my relevant keys look like.
Microsoft office from startup
and kernel fault check from HKLM/RUN
I still see no reference to msnmsgr.
What exactly is the error message you are getting?
I don't use MsMsgr so it's not the error message that I'm concerned about, rather the fact that it persistently tries to load at startup.Quote:
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
Well i know for a fact you can safely delete
Microsoft office from startup
and kernel fault check from HKLM/RUN
I still see no reference to msnmsgr.
What exactly is the error message you are getting?
But never mind, I've found it in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services
as pointed out by IdeasMan.
Thanks for your hints.
Damn it, I stopped the service -I think- but the thing is still nagging me.:mad:Quote:
Originally posted by myself
I don't use MsMsgr so it's not the error message that I'm concerned about, rather the fact that it persistently tries to load at startup.
But never mind, I've found it in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services
as pointed out by IdeasMan.
Thanks for your hints.
You most probably disabled the Messenger service which is in no way related to Windows Messenger or MSN Messenger.
Your never really going to get anything solved until you tell us what the error is, and you have to go into administrator tools to stop messenger service, it is supposed to be stopped no matter what because they send you spam through it.Quote:
Originally posted by krtxmrtz
Damn it, I stopped the service -I think- but the thing is still nagging me.:mad:
I'm afraid you're right, I actually thought it was the same thing.Quote:
Originally posted by Ideas Man
You most probably disabled the Messenger service which is in no way related to Windows Messenger or MSN Messenger.
I'll take a snapshot of the error message as soon as I lay hands on my home pc.Quote:
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
Your never really going to get anything solved until you tell us what the error is, and you have to go into administrator tools to stop messenger service, it is supposed to be stopped no matter what because they send you spam through it.
And I don't understand how I'm getting these messages after I stopped the service. I must have done something wrong.
Here's the first of 3 images. I suppose translation will be unnecessary.Quote:
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
Your never really going to get anything solved until you tell us what the error is
http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.p...postid=1753317
... and 3 ...
http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.p...postid=1753321
Ok try this, goto
Start Button->Programs->Administrative Tools->Services :
In Services, scroll down until you see Messenger :
Right click->Properties :
In Properties select Startup Type = Disabled.
Apply->OK.
Reboot computer.
(NOTE: If you cannot find Administrative Tools, Rightclick Taskbar->Properties->Start Menu->Customize->Advanced :
Scroll down until you see System Administrative Tools :
Select display on programs menu.)
OK, I'll try it tonight and see what happens...Quote:
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
Ok try this, ...
I did exactly as you indicated and even booted the computer.
To no avail. Still getting the same error message.
On the other hand, is it really the messenger service I need to disable? The error message refers to msmsgs.exe, is that the messenger service itself or microsoft messenger? If it's the latter, then I'd rather prevent it from running at Windows startup.
ok try this, we were stopping the wrong service, we were stopping messenger when we needed to be stopping Windows Messenger.
# Click Start, click Run, type gpedit.msc, and then press ENTER.
# Go to Local Computer Policy->Computer Configuration->Administrative Templates->Windows Components->
Windows Messenger:
Double-click Do not allow Windows Messenger to run:
Select Enabled.
Click OK
Reboot, the error should be gone.
If you still get the error, your last option would be to use your xp disk and do a repair on your OS.
Now guess what... you bet, file not found!!!Quote:
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
# Click Start, click Run, type gpedit.msc, and then press ENTER
That's what a search of *.msc produced:
http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.p...postid=1756015
gpedit is not in Administrative tools? Repair windows XP.
Well, I'll set to it a.s.a.p.Quote:
Originally posted by CORONA BEER
gpedit is not in Administrative tools? Repair windows XP.
I'll let you know how this winds up.
Instead of doing that, try simply running the system files checker on your system by opening the command prompt and typing in sfc /scannow You'll need your Windows XP CD handy. If all else fails, wait till tomorrow when Microsoft releases Windows XP Service Pack 2, it may fix your problems.
I ran the scan with the XP CD on and nothing happened, no final message apperared to warn me the computer would blow up in 15 sec so I guess it was ok. Does that mean I've got to run a brand new XP installation?Quote:
Originally posted by Ideas Man
Instead of doing that, try simply running the system files checker on your system by opening the command prompt and typing in sfc /scannow You'll need your Windows XP CD handy. If all else fails, wait till tomorrow when Microsoft releases Windows XP Service Pack 2, it may fix your problems.
No, not exactly. What that does is scans all your system files and replaces them with good original copies. It should reinstall the Group Policy Editor.
Well, it didn't, for it still isn't found. Actually, should I have rebooted the computer (which I hadn't)?Quote:
Originally posted by Ideas Man
No, not exactly. What that does is scans all your system files and replaces them with good original copies. It should reinstall the Group Policy Editor.
if you start it, isn't there a checkbox to 'load at startup' that can be unchecked (untested)
Nah, I don't think it would've mattered. BTW, which version of Windows XP are you running?Quote:
Originally posted by krtxmrtz
Well, it didn't, for it still isn't found. Actually, should I have rebooted the computer (which I hadn't)?
Don't forget to get SP2 also, see my post here