No 1 heard of the terrorist attack in Spain??
I'm astonished!
http://cnn.com.tr/2004/WORLD/europe/03/11/spain.blasts/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3503676.stm
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No 1 heard of the terrorist attack in Spain??
I'm astonished!
http://cnn.com.tr/2004/WORLD/europe/03/11/spain.blasts/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3503676.stm
I have a feeling that the U.S is behind this...
:rofl: One post and this thread has already gone stupid. :rolleyes:
That wouldn't surprise me. They seem to be the only country who can do what they like and get away with it.Quote:
Originally posted by IntelSucks
I have a feeling that the U.S is behind this...
It takes the UK security services one night to work out that those British prisoners released from guantanamo bay arn't a threat. It takes the US two years. It begs the question - how many more innocent people are being held?
Please use another thread for political slander.
back on topic.
Its appalling they dont seem to know who did it! Not normal for terrorists :(
Al Qaeda have claimed responsibility apparently.Quote:
Originally posted by BodwadUK
...Its appalling they dont seem to know who did it! Not normal for terrorists :(
al qaedaQuote:
posted by BodwadUK
Its appalling they dont seem to know who did it!
1- Too big for ETA
2- A tape found with Coran versicles
3- There are clues that some terrorists were suicides
4- A letter sent to a british newspaper
ETA has always wanted to do this so its not really
Tape does not mean a specific group though
Suicides i admit are mostly from Al queda(SP?) but not always
Was it the Sun newspaper? :p
I admit it does point strongly toways al but we should be cautious that they arent just placing a claim in on it :)
Wait just a minute....
Where is Spain again?
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Originally posted by crptcblade
Wait just a minute....
Where is Spain again?
:confused:
Been there...but was to drunk to remember.....
More like the British trying to make it look like the US to cover up their attempting to take over Spain.Quote:
Originally posted by visualAd
That wouldn't surprise me. They seem to be the only country who can do what they like and get away with it.
It takes the UK security services one night to work out that those British prisoners released from guantanamo bay arn't a threat. It takes the US two years. It begs the question - how many more innocent people are being held?
STFU!
:confused:
this conversation changed :p
Sorry, but when someone says something stupid, I react.
I know the US isn't behind it and the comment I made was un-neccessary, so sorry if I offended anyone.Quote:
Originally posted by Cander
Sorry, but when someone says something stupid, I react.
Just so you know I don't dislike the US or American's I just don't like the president that much.
You're next.Quote:
It begs the question - how many more innocent people are being held?
What will I be held for:(Quote:
Originally posted by demotivater
You're next.
Fair enough. Dont worry, doubt Bush will be in office at the end of the year.Quote:
Originally posted by visualAd
I know the US isn't behind it and the comment I made was un-neccessary, so sorry if I offended anyone.
Just so you know I don't dislike the US or American's I just don't like the president that much.
Hope not he seems to be the beacon of all animosity towards America wether he deserves it or not. :) :)
If it was another President, the same things would be said about him/her *coughs*. Unless of course, it was Gore, he wouldn't have done a thing and we'd all be speaking arabic.
Poorly commented code!! Two years at camp x-ray for thatQuote:
Originally posted by visualAd
What will I be held for:(
Being a British citizen with Iraqi parents in Gambia!Quote:
Originally posted by visualAd
What will I be held for:(
Sexual needs of the prison guards!! :lol:Quote:
What will i be held for
Our condolences and I hope none of your dear ones were victims. Its a monstrosity, nonetheless.
In all seriousness, oh! please! let it be Al - Kaeda. If not, the US of A is really going to fumble bigger time in prosecuting this "war on terrorism".
Al - Kaeda, Taliban, B'ahth Party, dear old Kim of North Korea, dearest Castro in Cuba, A Q Khan and his friends,.... and these are just a few of their favourite things.
Adding ETA would really compound problems and really add to the Spanish people's woes. They are in shock already. Stringent security clearance procedures for Spaniards travelling to the US of A, most likely the first EU nation to face that, rounding up suspicious persons of Spanish origin by the DHS, etc. will be counter-productive. It certainly has not helped with the Arabs.
On the other hand, if it is Al- Qaeda, one less people and one less country need to face the ignomy of American wrath.
Regards
KayJay
Condolenses to Spain and any others who have suffered in the cowardly attack.
When will these terrorist morons finally understand that their acts don't to crap for their cause, and only hurt people that cannot change what they want changed? I guess mental illness keeps the terrorists from seeing that. Not one incident in history shows terrorism winning the terrorists' cause. In most events, the terrorists take a bad beating and lose more and more. Terrorists should just kill themselves in an open wheat field.
-A Tape found in a van with 7 detonators is a strong clueQuote:
by BodwadUK
ETA has always wanted to do this so its not really
Tape does not mean a specific group though
Suicides i admit are mostly from Al queda(SP?) but not always
Was it the Sun newspaper?
-It was the british (Arab written) Al-Quds
I'm 100 % with you.Quote:
by HardCode
When will these terrorist morons finally understand that their acts don't to crap for their cause, and only hurt people that cannot change what they want changed? I guess mental illness keeps the terrorists from seeing that. Not one incident in history shows terrorism winning the terrorists' cause. In most events, the terrorists take a bad beating and lose more and more. Terrorists should just kill themselves in an open wheat field.
But terrorists don't just think. If they did, they weren't terrorists in the first place.
To set the timers to make some bombs explode 30 minutes after the first ones, to panick the volunteers, is demoniac.
The aim was to collapse the train station. This plan failed due to the delay of two of the trains. Thanks God this didn't happen in England or Germany!
Wouldnt have worked in the UK because the trains dont even run on time. As stupid as it sounds it could save the UK from a well planned attack on its trains :rolleyes:
Does anyone else wonder how much of all these terrorist attacks are really being done by Al Queda (sp?)? I wouldn't put it past them to claim that an attack was done by them.
Its certainly a concern that they are only claiming to it and not doing it but then terrorist organisation 'Usually' do it to make a point and thus claim to it. Eta normally gives warnings and no warning were issued. They technique is very 'al queda' in nature.
We may never really know :(
I think its Al Queda. It has similarities with 9/11. Firstly there were multiple attacks at approximatley the same time and it appears that the attackes were designed to kill as many as possible.
Let us hope the UK is not next.
I think you did it!!! You're pure EVIL !!!...Quote:
Originally posted by IntelSucks
I have a feeling that the U.S is behind this...
Oh, sorry i don't really know you.
If you want make that comment, at least be a judicious traveller to study history, world poiltics and economic interdependence.
Oh, wait... i forgot there's an investigation.
However, it has changed the election outcome significantly in Spain. This terrorist act would illustrate to those who instigated, attacks before election is capable of yielding a change in government.
Not really a good target in that respect, relatively soft structures and good transport links for emergency services.Quote:
Originally posted by visualAd
it appears that the attackes were designed to kill as many as possible.
The thing about the WTC was that it is in the middle of a gridlocked city, almost no emergency service accessibility and thousands of people confined to a very small ground footprint.
Makes you wonder if Madrid was a precursor to something worse. Its about time governments stopped funding art galleries and gay marriages and started torturing terrorists for info.
Brings it all flooding back though, doesnt it. :(
(These views are not necessarily those of anyone else but me)
This was much larger than any normal attack though so we can assume that it was intended as a fear attack. :(
Not exactly. Hence the hundreds of police and firefighters killed.Quote:
almost no emergency service accessibility
I stand corrected on my earlier comments. It seems that the terrorist attack in Madrid did succeed for the first time. Why? Because the people elected a government that is ready to hide under the skirt of the French government along with Germany under there. So Sad.
Please note, I said Spanish, French, and German governments, not the general populace/citizens.
Although, the voting Spanish seem to be okay with it......
Yeah and that's all that matters to them.
What do they care about the opinion of a few flatfooted yanks ? And more importantly, why should anyone care about the opinion of opinionated Americans who think they own the world ?
90% of the Spanish population did not want to get involved with the war in Iraq, and now they've got rid of a government that went against the peoples wishes.Quote:
Originally posted by HardCode
I stand corrected on my earlier comments. It seems that the terrorist attack in Madrid did succeed for the first time. Why? Because the people elected a government that is ready to hide under the skirt of the French government along with Germany under there. So Sad.
Please note, I said Spanish, French, and German governments, not the general populace/citizens.
Although, the voting Spanish seem to be okay with it......
Spain's PM-elect just sent a message to the world that terrorism works...sad.
You are absolutely correct. In 1941, the Yanks and their opinionated opinions should have stayed out of Europe's business....Quote:
Originally posted by Wally Pipp
Yeah and that's all that matters to them.
What do they care about the opinion of a few flatfooted yanks ? And more importantly, why should anyone care about the opinion of opinionated Americans who think they own the world ?
Oh here we go, another round of "if it weren't for us you'd all be speaking German".
The last refuge of those with too few arguments to support their bigoted rants.
How predictable and how utterly boring. And how easy to wind up too :)
But can you deny it? Can you explain anything otherwise? Talk about biting the hand that feeds.
So, you think it was okay for us to involve ourselves in world affairs when it was YOUR arses getting hit by Nazi U-boats and bombers? But we are trying to rule the world by liberating 27 million Iraqis? By the way, it was your boys too over there in Iraq helping with the liberating.
What logic is this?
Oh, if it is so predictable, should be re-write history like most revisionist liberals do?
*turning the screws a bit further*
My boys are only there where they're supposed to be.
What's this fascination with my boys anyway ? You're not getting any of it. Or them. And stay away from my arse, you yankee ******.
I see you've managed to learn something from the Colonial past.
Can't talk, can't think, can wave a gun about a bit ... thank <insert deity of choice> we have you lot pissing all over the little countries eh. And all that for our safety ? My, what a beautiful gesture ...
And all that from behind your computer screen ? Impressive. :thumb:
PS: Should I have included smileys ? Naaah, he won't figure it out with or without them. Let's see how far we can take this wind-up ...
Naaah, not worth the bother anyway. Winding up morons is sooooo yesteryear :)
Oh and my condoleances to any and every victim's family.
Its not about what the terroists want. Its what the citizens want, the majority of which don't fancy being blown up on their way to work one morning.Quote:
Originally posted by HardCode
Spain's PM-elect just sent a message to the world that terrorism works...sad.
I'm not sure this whole war on terroism is the right way.:rolleyes: In my opinion it will only create more terrorists, I think maybe the governments should start addressing the reasons why otherwise normal people with families and loved ones are persuaded to kill hundreds of innocent people in the name of their beliefs.
There is something drastically wrong with society, if only we knew what:mad:
...just as the French should have pulled their ships and soldiers out of asisting the US in their war against Britain over 200 years ago.Quote:
Originally posted by HardCode
You are absolutely correct. In 1941, the Yanks and their opinionated opinions should have stayed out of Europe's business....
..and those pesky Spaniards should not have interefered with helping the French assist the US in defeating the Brits at the same time.
If you believe this is all about settlement of previous "debts", then let's get down and dirty and analyse it...
Here's a starter: Without the Europeans, where would the US be now?
Sitting round fires, living in Wig Wams, herding buffallo and generally having a stress free life smoking pipes. They'd probably be socialising with the Mayans had they not already been slaughtered earlier....Quote:
Originally posted by Gaffer
...just as the French should have pulled their ships and soldiers out of asisting the US in their war against Britain over 200 years ago.
..and those pesky Spaniards should not have interefered with helping the French assist the US in defeating the Brits at the same time.
If you believe this is all about settlement of previous "debts", then let's get down and dirty and analyse it...
Here's a starter: Without the Europeans, where would the US be now?
funny thing is that English is from the same Germanic linguistic tree as German.
Soooo ... in a way, we are already speaking German.
Alles klar ja ?
... instead of being a small minority of people repressed in their own country, who have become one of the most separated and poorest communities in the world.Quote:
Originally posted by RSINGH
Sitting round fires, living in Wig Wams, herding buffallo and generally having a stress free life smoking pipes. They'd probably be socialising with the Mayans had they not already been slaughtered earlier....
I can feel a song coming on...
I don't see any difference in the US and the Al Qaeda as far as involvement is concerned. If you don't side with the US you are in the axis of evil and next in the line of fire. If you don't side with Al Qaeda they blow up things in your country.Quote:
Originally posted by HardCode
Spain's PM-elect just sent a message to the world that terrorism works...sad.
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not a shred of logic ever comes out of your mouth ..Quote:
Originally posted by honeybee
I don't see any difference in the US and the Al Qaeda as far as involvement is concerned. If you don't side with the US you are in the axis of evil and next in the line of fire.
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well, that way you might want to thank Africa for european civilization in the first place...Quote:
Originally posted by Gaffer
Here's a starter: Without the Europeans, where would the US be now?
we all know what you use that carrot for, no need to be ashamed WallyQuote:
Originally posted by Wally Pipp
[B]*turning the screws a bit further*
My boys are only there where they're supposed to be.
What's this fascination with my boys anyway ? You're not getting any of it. Or them. And stay away from my arse, you yankee ******.
Will you be my deputy, then? I am thinking of running for Bush's place :pQuote:
Originally posted by OrdinaryGuy
not a shred of logic ever comes out of your mouth ..
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:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by honeybee
Will you be my deputy, then? I am thinking of running for Bush's place :p
Indian elections aren't any better are they?
Stop having breakfast in the morning! Your infadel action is against my religious beliefs!! Stop it of i'll blow up your garage!!!Quote:
Originally posted by honeybee
I don't see any difference in the US and the Al Qaeda as far as involvement is concerned. If you don't side with the US you are in the axis of evil and next in the line of fire. If you don't side with Al Qaeda they blow up things in your country.
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if you stop having breakfast in the morning because of my neighborly advice, it'll show me my advice works. Maybe i can try it with the other neighbor.
And maybe i can ask you to prevent you wife from showing too much legs and hair...
What the new leaders of Spain is doing now is carefully not to look as if they are acting in appeasement (talking about UN.. and so forth), but also crefully rebutting President Bush's administration belligerent tendency.
At least we have leaders who don't get emotional every time, and try to promote peace, even at a cost, with even the most hated enemy nations. Sometimes I thank God we have such old people occupying the top positions, because they have gone through their life and learnt some very important lessons they put into practice. If we had some young blood at the helm, the Kargill war would have swiftly turned into a nuclear war. In fact we would probably not have survived through the earlier conflicts to even reach the Kargill stage. One or the other nation would have been wiped out much before that. But fortunately we have people who know that violence doesn't solve everything. Reaching for the heart is much better than reaching for your gun.Quote:
Originally posted by OrdinaryGuy
:rolleyes:
Indian elections aren't any better are they?
Don't you ever wonder with all those flaws in our election system, we are still able to elect people who extend a peace offer to our most hatred enemy? Do you even have any idea what a radical change in atmosphere the recent Cricket series has brought in the relations of the two countries and the attitude of the people? Lastly do you know the courage it takes to swallow all those losses and to take all that criticism and still know that peace cannot be won by violence?
Thank God we don't need to fingerprint our guests. Thank Gd we don't need to profile our guests based on their races. Thank God we don't need sniffer dogs and metal detectors and policemen thronging our trains looking for explosives, because we still have people who believe a dialogue works better than a fight.
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And maybe I should be allowed to drive on whichever side of the road I see fit?Quote:
Originally posted by W01fgang
Stop having breakfast in the morning! Your infadel action is against my religious beliefs!! Stop it of i'll blow up your garage!!!
if you stop having breakfast in the morning because of my neighborly advice, it'll show me my advice works. Maybe i can try it with the other neighbor.
And maybe i can ask you to prevent you wife from showing too much legs and hair...
What the new leaders of Spain is doing now is carefully not to look as if they are acting in appeasement (talking about UN.. and so forth), but also crefully rebutting President Bush's administration belligerent tendency.
They are laws of those countries, if you got any problems with how they frame and implement their laws, get the fook out of that country and never visit it. Calling them evil because they don't have democracy and because you can't make any sense out of any laws they might have simply shows you are intolerant and ignorant of other people's and other governments' right to self-rule. Read the reaction of Saudi Arabia's prince to the US's plans of reforming the Middle East. The US is poking its nose too far deep into others' affairs, and it's actually time somebody bit that long nose. Or maybe Al Qaeda should really say the US is evil because it doesn't follow Al Qaeda's style of rule and it should overthrow the US government and implement its own rule in the US. I don't see any difference there...
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Nice - an Al Qaeda sympathizer.
well, in your worldview that's just about anyone who doesn't follow the US propaganda machine, isn't it ? :rolleyes:
He's just trying to say. Why should countries like the US and the UK have the right to decide who is right and who is wrong.Quote:
Originally posted by Shawn N
Nice - an Al Qaeda sympathizer.
The majority of us believe that terrorism is wrong but that doesn't make the cause they are fighting for wrong. In my opinion the ones who are in the wrong are the leadsers such as Osama Bin Laden who convince young people to blow themselves up and kill other people in support of his beliefs. I'm sure he wouldn't be willing to do the same.
Older people do have more wisdom but they sometimes retain more animosity towards others. They have age old arguments and hatred and pass it on to the younger generations who really have no reason too.
For a country that is very unstable you are very good at ignoring it. The fact that you are still in an unstable peace with Pakistan and never seem to make any progress on proper stable peace shows how little your people really care. :rolleyes: