Is this the best looking car... EVER?

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Oct 24th, 2003, 04:57 PM
VisionIT

Is this the best looking car... EVER?

As many serious VBF users know, i've been looking for a new car recently... and saw this :drool:

http://www.e-visionit.co.uk/VolvoS40_T5.bmp

I've looked at/test driven...

Peugeot 206GTi180 --> Sadly... it was crap!
Honda Civic Type-R --> Wow... just wow!
Vauxhall Astra GSi Turbo --> Very VERY nice, quicker then Civic Type-R too!
BMW 316Ti SE --> Awful, really terrible!
BMW 318Ti Sport --> Quicker, but just as terrible and uninteresting as 316!
Subaru Impreza WRX Turbo --> Soooooo damn quick, it's scary!
Mazda RX-8 --> Beautiful car, drink's fuel like it's going out of fashion, and requires a top-up of oil... wait for it.... every 2 tanks of fuel! I'm not kidding! Rotary engine... not cost effective!

Now the Volvo S40 T5 Turbo!!!

What do you think of the pic?
Turbo'd
Twin exhaust
Looks saweeeeeet!

Cheers all... :lol: :wave:
Oct 24th, 2003, 05:04 PM
techgnome

Looks like a sweet car...
I wouldn't mind having the Subaru tho....
Subaru Impreza WRX Turbo
Some one near wher I live got one.... I follow it home everyday ...... It rocks!

TG
Oct 24th, 2003, 05:08 PM
plenderj

Pray tell, how in the jaysus are you going to get insurance for these beasts ?
Oct 24th, 2003, 08:21 PM
MartinLiss

Have you Googed S40 T5 Turbo?
Here's one hit.
Oct 24th, 2003, 09:30 PM
Arc

There's no such thing as a cool "car". Well except maybe a lamborghini.

Trucks and SUV's are the way to go.
Oct 25th, 2003, 12:56 AM
The Hobo

Quote:

Originally posted by MartinLiss
Have you Googed S40 T5 Turbo?
Here's one hit.

How often do you goog, Martin? :p
Oct 25th, 2003, 04:57 AM
VisionIT

Quote:

Originally posted by plenderj
Pray tell, how in the jaysus are you going to get insurance for these beasts ?

Shop around! :lol:

I've gone through *litterally* hundreds of insurance companies trying to find the best quote. Here are some results...

Subaru Impreza: £2119 with 0yrs NCD
Volvo S40 T5 Turbo: Haven't priced it yet...
Vauxhall Astra GSi Turbo: £1875 with 0yrs NCD
Honda Civic Type-R: £2002.81 with 0yrs NCD
Mazda RX-8: £4027 with 0yrs NCD @ £1025 excess

Mad figures, I know... but it'll be worth it! I'm just about to ring Volvo to see if I can shed a few grand of the £23,995 list price of the T5 Turbo model.

I'll keep ya informed!

Thanks for the comments! :wave:
Oct 25th, 2003, 09:29 AM
MartinLiss

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hobo
How often do you goog, Martin? :p

I just thought I'd invent a new word. I expect to see it added to dictionaries in a couple of years. ;)
Oct 25th, 2003, 10:39 AM
Arrow_Raider

Quote:

Trucks and SUV's are the way to go.

EWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Why woudl ever want to drive a big UGLY box on wheels.
Oct 25th, 2003, 10:50 AM
The Hobo

I like boxes. Not a big fan of wheels, though. I took the wheels off my box and threw on some skis. Now it works like a charm!

Well...in the winter, at least.
Oct 25th, 2003, 01:51 PM
mendhak

I'm sorry, but the classic ol' Jeep Cherokee is way better than anything else.

You all lose.
Oct 25th, 2003, 03:31 PM
The Hobo

My girlfriend had a Cherokee for a couple of years. Now she has a Neon or something feminine like that. :sick:
Oct 25th, 2003, 04:21 PM
MartinLiss

Actally this is the best looking car ever.
Oct 25th, 2003, 04:30 PM
The Hobo

That car screams "rob me."
Oct 25th, 2003, 04:47 PM
DiGiTaIErRoR

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hobo
That car screams "rob me."

That gotta catch it first.

:D :D :D

I wouldn't mind having a:

http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/....jsp?model=xlr
Oct 25th, 2003, 04:57 PM
TomGibbons

Quote:

Originally posted by MartinLiss
Actally this is the best looking car ever.

*nods*
Oct 25th, 2003, 06:13 PM
plenderj

Quote:

Originally posted by MartinLiss
Actally this is the best looking car ever.

Martin, I was starting to think you'd no class at all. Then I saw this. Somebody buy that man a pint!
Oct 25th, 2003, 06:17 PM
MartinLiss

Thanks, I think :) Here's some more info. The bolding is mine.

The Carrera GT is a totally new development based on Porsche racing design. As such, it carries all the familiar hallmarks of Porsche motorsport and our relentless passion for performance.

One of the most uncompromising vehicles ever created for the road, this latest generation of Porsche offers breathtaking performance in every respect. From a standing start, it reaches 124 mph (200 km/h) in just 9.9 seconds en route to a top track speed of 205 mph (330 km/h).

To achieve that performance, we've applied a powerful V10 engine - developing 605 hp (SAE) - to an unladen weight of just 3,042 lbs (1,380 kg).

Every last component in each area of the car has been custom-engineered for optimum performance. The result is a masterpiece of lightweight construction with an exceptional power-to-weight ratio. The main chassis structure is made from aerospace-grade composites, including carbon-fiber sandwich construction with a high-strength honeycomb core. These state-of-the-art materials combine major weight savings with intense structural rigidity to achieve exceptional performance and handling characteristics with exemplary safety reserves.

At the heart of the car, the mid-mounted V10 is mounted deep in the chassis to create an extremely low center of gravity. With less susceptibility to lateral g-forces, the car remains flat, consistent and inherently balanced through even the fastest racing bends.

By placing the engine and aluminium fuel tank directly behind the cockpit, it was possible to achieve a more even distribution of vehicle weight - one of the essential prerequisites for the car's superior dynamics.

With such a total heritage in racing performance, there was only ever one layout option: an open-top two-seater with two-piece detachable hardtop.

Surrounded by so much power and agility, this classic configuration places you and your passenger at the heart of a truly exhilarating drive.
Oct 25th, 2003, 06:21 PM
MartinLiss

Oh, and then there's this little fact:

List Price: $350,000-400,000
Oct 25th, 2003, 06:38 PM
The Hobo

I think I have that much under the seat in my car. Let me check. If not, I'll have to dig through the couch. I know I have it just lying around, though. ;)
Oct 27th, 2003, 09:34 AM
JPicasso

Quote:

Originally posted by VisionIT

... I've gone through *litterally* hundreds of insurance companies trying to find the best quote. Here are some results...

Subaru Impreza: £2119 with 0yrs NCD
Volvo S40 T5 Turbo: Haven't priced it yet...
Vauxhall Astra GSi Turbo: £1875 with 0yrs NCD
Honda Civic Type-R: £2002.81 with 0yrs NCD
Mazda RX-8: £4027 with 0yrs NCD @ £1025 excess

Mad figures, I know... but it'll be worth it! I'm just about to ring Volvo to see if I can shed a few grand of the £23,995 list price of the T5 Turbo model...

So, around £2000 a year? for car insurance?

That's like $3400 american. Are you high?
Oct 27th, 2003, 09:56 AM
VisionIT

Quote:

Originally posted by JPicasso
So, around £2000 a year? for car insurance?

That's like $3400 american. Are you high?

That's not bad really, when you think just how quick some of those cars are! The scooby should cost the most in theory...

The Volvo S40 T5 isn't out until Feb 2004, so lets hope it's worth holding back for...

The Honda screams "aaaarrrrrrrghhhhhhhh, holy christ!" at 6000RPM as it's in that widely acclaimed VTEC 'zone'... but the Astra GSi screams at 2500RPM because of that sweeeet turbo. But then the Scooby also has a turbo, and still does 0-60 in 5.5s! I'm looking for a dump valve ATM, so you'll know i'm coming... cause you'll hear me from 300 miles! :p

I'll check again... but I don't think I can quite stretch to the Porsche's price! :D :D :D I agree though... it's a cracking car, but i'm afraid the ol' Ferrari F355 would suit me fine! It's not as quick as that Porsche; not by a long way! But it sure looks nice! Better than the Enzo too!

Anywayz, i'm off to raid The Hobo's car seats for that 350K! Heeheeee :lol:
Oct 27th, 2003, 10:03 AM
Memnoch1207

Why would anybody want to buy a gas-guzzling SUV? especially with these high gas prices?

Martin, that Porsche ROCKS!!!

Here's the car I WANT!
Oct 27th, 2003, 10:06 AM
Wally Pipp

I'd go for the Impreza though. Lightning fast.
Oct 27th, 2003, 11:45 AM
fungi

Don't you have robot camera speed traps all the place in the UK? Between that and the insurance how can you afford to speed :confused:

It's bad enough here with radar gun wielding cops all over the place. I miss California where they couldn't radar you on the highway. They had to follow you to verify your speed or get you from a plane.
Oct 27th, 2003, 03:29 PM
VisionIT

Quote:

Originally posted by fungi
Don't you have robot camera speed traps all the place in the UK? Between that and the insurance how can you afford to speed :confused:

Yeah... but us brit's also have GATSO detectors... so pig's with wands can go screw! :p

I'm not a fan of speeding, but I do like a car with plenty of poke... should you ever need it! Something like a Ford Fiesta 1.1i 60BHP! :D :D :D

Before I started driving, I promised myself I wouldn't speed... but there are times/busy schedules which require you to be a little over-zealous with the ol' gas pedal! But speed is nothing without control, so the aim with my new car isn't outright speed, but to be a better, safer..... .... .... ... boy racer!

:rolleyes: :p
Oct 27th, 2003, 04:01 PM
SteveCRM

my sister and I share a honda civic, a year old this past august. piece of crap so far.

trunk won't close correctly, even after bringing it back to the dealer twice. And it costs $40 for a spare key for the damned thing! :mad:
Oct 27th, 2003, 04:10 PM
MasterBlaster

the Porsche is nice but....
http://www.ferrari-forsale.com/F50
Oct 27th, 2003, 04:27 PM
MartinLiss

Quote:

Originally posted by MasterBlaster
the Porsche is nice but....
http://www.ferrari-forsale.com/F50

Quote:

It has been said that Mike Tyson was the first person to receive an F50 as an owner in the United States at a purchase price of $850,000.

I wonder if he still has it, given his downhill slide in boxing.
Oct 27th, 2003, 04:33 PM
MasterBlaster

I'm sure his x-wife is cruising it around now.
Oct 27th, 2003, 04:43 PM
andreys

Ok, guys back to reality now....:bigyello:

Have you eve consider Audi A4 3.0 Quattro?
Or if you got little more money go for Audi RS6
http://www.carsdirect.com/build/styl...&zipcode=91356
Oct 27th, 2003, 04:57 PM
MasterBlaster

A4s are pretty sweet. I think the Subaru Impreza WRX STi is a better deal if your into the AWD rally style.
Oct 27th, 2003, 06:47 PM
SteveCRM

probably just got the bad one of the bunch
Oct 29th, 2003, 11:27 AM
Richard_Branson

I still love my car - The Astra 200I - fast

But I would give anything to spend a few days with that damn Volvo

Uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh

I've got a friend who's a motoring Journalist and i must say that he has the coolest Job in the world (after mine ofcourse - not!). He get's to drive around in cars (pre-release) and tht is what i call SWEET!!!
Oct 29th, 2003, 11:41 AM
VisionIT

Funny you should mention the Astra...

I'm trying to decide if I should buy a £15499 Astra GSi, and spend a couple of grand moddin' it to 345BHP @ 4000RPM (412lb Torque @ 1950) or buy a £20000 Scooby WRX turbo, and just buy a dump valve and performance pack?!?!?! It would only be 265BHP with the performance pack, but it does 0-62 in 4.4secs, and puts all that power down through four wheels (or all wheels as Subaru put it! :p ).

The Astra GSi is lightning quick anyway, but Regal (www.regal-shop.co.uk) do some fantastic mods which transform it from a quick car... to a fantastic supercar hunter! :D

Scooby or Gsi ? Hmm...

The Scooby WRX Turbo is iconic but 20K, but the Astra GSi is under-rated and costs a mere 15.5K... I CAN'T DECIDE!
Oct 29th, 2003, 11:53 AM
Merrion

Quote:

Is this the best looking car... EVER?

Not to my eye - it is a high performance car with a few boy racer thingies and a dash of chrome but it has the grace and charm of a slab of uncommented cobol source code.
Oct 29th, 2003, 12:01 PM
VisionIT

Quote:

Originally posted by Merrion
Not to my eye - it is a high performance car with a few boy racer thingies and a dash of chrome but it has the grace and charm of a slab of uncommented cobol source code.

HAHAHAHAHA :p

That's really slagging off m8... * chill * :D
Oct 29th, 2003, 12:13 PM
Merrion

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Still - it beats my car which currently looks like this:-
Oct 29th, 2003, 07:24 PM
Arc

Very cool car Martin, but this one is a tab better IMO.
http://www.getpowered.net/lee/diablo1.jpg http://www.getpowered.net/lee/diablo2.jpg http://www.getpowered.net/lee/diablo3.jpg
Oct 29th, 2003, 07:26 PM
MartinLiss

Yeah, but that one's 4 years old (as if that matters) :)
Oct 29th, 2003, 07:30 PM
MartinLiss

See this thread
Oct 30th, 2003, 10:21 AM
Madboy

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Umm,

Pagani Zonda All the way, will set you back a good £500,000 Squid or more though. Looks nice and truly is a beast, from the moment the engine roars from leaving the house, to coming back from kicking everyone's ass in a street race. Car does about 0-60Mph in a whooopppping!!!!!!! 3.62 Secs or so, and they said Meclaren F1 and Meclaren F1 LM is the true supercar, competition is around now though - and here it is! Enjoy people;)

I have a better pic but its too large
Oct 30th, 2003, 10:24 AM
Richard_Branson

Quote:

The Scooby WRX Turbo is iconic but 20K, but the Astra GSi is under-rated and costs a mere 15.5K... I CAN'T DECIDE!

The Astra GSI is Sweet but if I had the money I'd get the Subaru Impreza WRX STI Limited Edition - Like you said "It's Ionic"

There's a guy who lives close to my place who drives an Impreza & his car plates are: I8ABMW.
That's SWEEEEEET

The BMW M3 CSL is also quite sweet - If you can afford it
Oct 30th, 2003, 10:29 AM
Richard_Branson

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The New Opel

190hp turbocharged four cylinder engine.
Oct 30th, 2003, 10:35 AM
Madboy

That opel is disgusting, on the sports car world i would have:

Mercedes CLK-GTR
Toyota Castrol Supra GT
Ferrari F50
Vauxhall VX220 Twin Turbo
Pagani Zonda
Lamborghini Murcielago
Dodge Viper GTS
TVR Tuscan/Chimera
Honda NSX 2000
Nissan Skyliner R34 GT-R VSpec

The list goes on, but the cars above are a truly amazing dream!
Oct 30th, 2003, 10:38 AM
Richard_Branson

Disgusting? Opel never ever made a disguting car

I will kill you right where you stand!
Oct 30th, 2003, 10:41 AM
Richard_Branson

How about this sweet beemer?

http://www.supercars.net/cars/2003@$AC%20Schnitzer@$V8%20Topster%20Conceptg.html

2003 AC Schnitzer V8 Topster Concept
Oct 30th, 2003, 10:41 AM
Madboy

Umm, firstly its an opinion!
Secondly im a boxer, so id like to see you try
Thirdly i forgot to mention,

Pagani Zonda has a 64Valve engine!!!!!!
Oct 30th, 2003, 10:47 AM
Richard_Branson

Ok - Just kidding dude!

I'd like THE BRABUS E V12

Specs:
12-cylinder biturbo engine
6.3 liters
640 hp (471 kW) at 5,100 rpm
1026 nm / 756.7 ft lbs @ 1750 rpm
4.2 seconds for 0 to 100 km/h
340 kph / 211.3 mph
Rear Tires 285/30 ZR 19
Front Tires 255/35 ZR 19

$330 000 USD
Oct 30th, 2003, 11:03 AM
VisionIT

I can't/won't stretch to the huge cost of the STi when it's only marginally quicker (0.8 secs) and handles in exactly the same way!

You can get the performance pack for the WRX which costs only £1600 which makes it actually faster than the STi, and has more torque at lower revs.

The new Opel/Vauxhall Astra is powered by the exact same ECOTEK 197BHP Turbo engine that's in the old one! Its a nice looking motor, but I prefer the old version. Sorry Vauxhall! :(

I think people have gone barmy with all the comments BTW!!! £500,000 Pagani Zonda's!!!???!! I said i'de haggle on the cost, but I doubt they'd drop it to £20K! :p

I like the Zonda... but i'de rather have a Kournigsegg (SP?) Don't take the piss... not even Top Gear could spell it right! :D

It's officially the fastest car in the world, until the Daewoo Matiz 1.0i came out! :lol: :D :p

I drive a Peugeot 106 Quiksilver at the mo... and used to think it was pretty quick... until I drove the outstanding Honda Civic Type MK2... and it really puts the pug in it's place! That gear change is bloody superb! DROOL :wave:
Oct 30th, 2003, 11:05 AM
Madboy

I hate peugeots, but at the end of the day, a car's a car. As long as it has at least 3 wheels, an engine and it moves, thats all that matters.
Oct 30th, 2003, 11:18 AM
VisionIT

WHAT???

Peugeot's are fantastic cars....

I've had a 1989 Peugeot 205 Roland Garros Special Edition, and that was fab, although a little hungry for clutches!

Then I swapped it for my Quiksilver... and i've been extremely pleased with it. It's NEVER broken down, nothing's failed... it just goes! It's now nearly 5yrs old (99V) and there are a few squeaks from the dash... but i'de recommend Peugeot to anyone! A friend of mine had a Pug 305... it went round the clock twice and was still running sweet before he crashed it into a ditch! :p Fool.

Peugeot engine's are very strong, durable and capable... but the noise lets it down slightly. It's not loud in any way... it just sounds like a hair-dryer on charlie! :D

I actually went to buy a Citreon Saxo Furio 1.4i, but then spotted mine on the forecourt, and saw sense! Citreon have bloody awful interiors, fecked-up ECU mappings and dodgy reliability! Although Peugeot and Citreon are the same company, nearly all parts on the Citreon are Peugeot originals, but screwed up by bad programming! Shame really! :wave: