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What is moral and why?
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ok no religion? Then morality will prevail.
What is moral and why?
Sometimes I throw fish at cars. It gives me a sense of accomplishment.
What is moral ? well... That's a good question.
i dont think many people will be able to answer that !
Cheers !
morality, in my opinion, is defined by the individual. what i consider immoral, you may consider moral, and vice-versa.
i don't believe in any set definition.
:DQuote:
Originally posted by crptcblade
Sometimes I throw fish at cars. It gives me a sense of accomplishment.
Chips in Mayo works good too. :DQuote:
Originally posted by crptcblade
Sometimes I throw fish at cars. It gives me a sense of accomplishment.
Nice and sticky :D
Moral is me
From the dictionary
mo·ral·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-rl-t, mô-)
n. pl. mo·ral·i·ties
The quality of being in accord with standards of right or good conduct.
A system of ideas of right and wrong conduct: religious morality; Christian morality.
Virtuous conduct.
A rule or lesson in moral conduct.
see that Christian morality?
I smell religion...
RUN!!!!!!
Quote from the Oxford English Dictionary
morality
· n. (pl. moralities)
1 principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour. Ø a system of values and moral principles.
2 the extent to which an action is right or wrong.
No mention of religion.
you guys just can't face the truth! Look it is in your dictionary.
according to the American heritage dictionary:Quote:
Originally posted by jesus4u
see that Christian morality?
morality /mralt/ n. (pl. -ies) 1 the degree of conformity of an idea, practice, etc., to moral principles. 2 right moral conduct. 3 a lesson in morals. 4 the science of morals. 5 a particular system of morals (commercial morality). 6 (in pl.) moral principles; points of ethics. 7 (in full morality play) hist. a kind of drama with personified abstract qualities as the main characters and inculcating a moral lesson, popular in the 16th c. [ME f. OF moralite or LL moralitas f. L (as moral)]
I am convinced! J4U, please send me a pamphlet...
well.. no mention of religion in the definition i posted above. And correction, i got that from an Oxford CD dictionary, not from the American heritage one.Quote:
Originally posted by jesus4u
you guys just can't face the truth! Look it is in your dictionary.
Well, according to my dictionary Morality means:Quote:
Originally posted by jesus4u
you guys just can't face the truth! Look it is in your dictionary.
Degree of conformity to moral principles; moral conduct; moralizing.
Nope, don't see anything about religion.
According to you Jesus4U, anyone who isn't a Christian, isn't moral. I'm no Christian, does that mean I do bad things? I know right from wrong, which is more than I can say for a lot of so called Christians. I've never hurt or abused a child, can you say the same for a lot of priests.
I'm glad to see that this "no religious threads" concept is working out so well.
:)
LOL :DQuote:
Originally posted by crptcblade
I'm glad to see that this "no religious threads" concept is working out so well.
:)
tssk tssk tssk ... you're just a cynic :p
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"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
Morality Mo*ral"i*ty, n.; pl. Moralities. L. moralitas: cf.
F. moralit'e.
1. The relation of conformity or nonconformity to the moral
standard or rule; quality of an intention, a character, an
action, a principle, or a sentiment, when tried by the
standard of right.
The morality of an action is founded in the freedom
of that principle, by virtue of which it is in the
agent's power, having all things ready and requisite
to the performance of an action, either to perform
or not perform it. --South.
2. The quality of an action which renders it good; the
conformity of an act to the accepted standard of right.
Of moralitee he was the flower. --Chaucer.
I am bold to think that morality is capable of
demonstration. --Locke.
3. The doctrines or rules of moral duties, or the duties of
men in their social character; ethics.
The end of morality is to procure the affections to
obey reason, and not to invade it. --Bacon.
The system of morality to be gathered out of . . .
ancient sages falls very short of that delivered in
the gospel. --Swift.
4. The practice of the moral duties; rectitude of life;
conformity to the standard of right; virtue; as, we often
admire the politeness of men whose morality we question.
5. A kind of allegorical play, so termed because it consisted
of discourses in praise of morality between actors
representing such characters as Charity, Faith, Death,
Vice, etc. Such plays were occasionally exhibited as late
as the reign of Henry VIII. --Strutt.
6. Intent; meaning; moral. Obs.
Taketh the morality thereof, good men. --Chaucer.
Alright then, what dictionary did you get that out of?Quote:
Originally posted by jesus4u
From the dictionary
mo·ral·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-rl-t, mô-)
n. pl. mo·ral·i·ties
The quality of being in accord with standards of right or good conduct.
A system of ideas of right and wrong conduct: religious morality; Christian morality.
Virtuous conduct.
A rule or lesson in moral conduct.
http://www.google.ie/search?q=%22A+s...-8&hl=en&meta=Quote:
Originally posted by GingerNut
Alright then, what dictionary did you get that out of?
Was it a Christian Dicktionary? :)
jesus christ you're even more immature than me :eek: ;)Quote:
Originally posted by parksie
Was it a Christian Dicktionary? :)
Everybody's raiding www.dictionary.com it seems :)
Takes some doing, I know ;)
Been acting like a 3-year-old all morning, actually :D We were using PSpice this morning and for some reason I was absolutely delighted that holding down Ctrl-R on certain components made them spin round in amusing ways :shrug: :D
http://www.vbforums.com/images/ieimages/2002/10/7.gif Religion alert...Religion Alert. Please evacuate the thread http://www.vbforums.com/images/ieimages/2002/10/7.gif
:eek: You've banned j4u!
There will retribution :(
LOL :eek:
Its going to be Sodom & Gomorrah all over again...
Is it morally right to ban someone over their religous beliefs?
Maybe, maybe not, but I say stick with what works.
Not for their beliefs. He was banned for causing trouble on the forums, which *is* morally right.Quote:
Originally posted by Bonker Gudd
Is it morally right to ban someone over their religous beliefs?
he wasn't banned for his beliefs, he was banned for trying to force his beliefs on us, after we made it quite clear we weren't interested. Telling us we were all going to hell because we didn't believe in his god.Quote:
Originally posted by Bonker Gudd
Is it morally right to ban someone over their religous beliefs?
well... i dont think he should have been banned for that :rolleyes:
Imagine J4U was the administrator of this forum. What he decides is law (he can close threads, ban users, etc).
I think no one would have even bothered to post. :)
Let the guy post his threads (whatever they may be). Live and let live.
Think on this: BradJones is the superuser, administrator, god, big_chief_sitting_bull here. He has the power and authority to do anything he wants. The rules he lays down is law. Whether I like it or not, believe it or not.
Now imagine this life as a thread, and GOD in charge.
;)
Go forth and post!
The Bible tells him to do this.Quote:
Originally posted by GingerNut
he was banned for trying to force his beliefs on us
A warning should be placed of the front page of this site saying that you may have to neglect your religious principles whilst using this site.
well.. I do believe brad should have warned him. Marty would have probably been able to handle this better. I gotta admit, I greatly enjoyed reading those religious debates and seeing his views being thrashed by others. I certainly dont think they caused an uproar.... well.. i guess we'll be hearing no more from J4U and will never be able to fight with him again :(
other religous people come here without bothering people though.
although i laughed, i think it is a bit severe to ban him.
The No relgious posts at the top of page wasn't enough of a warning? J4U showed no intention of following the rules. Besides, J4U has his own forum to discuss this stuff. How much you want a bet that he would ban you in a second if you posted something he found offensive on his forum?
he did actually lock two of my threads three times when i tried posting at his forum. :p
Well, I always have tried to look at things from the other's point of view. He obviously felt hurt (like I care though) about the religious ban and wanted to express his views on it. This thread was never intended to be a religious debate (at least i think). Brad banned him within 5 minutes of this thread being started. I doubt he ever gave him a formal warning or talked to any of the admins.Quote:
Originally posted by Cander
The No relgious posts at the top of page wasn't enough of a warning? J4U showed no intention of following the rules. Besides, J4U has his own forum to discuss this stuff. How much you want a bet that he would ban you in a second if you posted something he found offensive on his forum?
Well, we're lucky he didn't read the Mein Kampf(sp?):DQuote:
Originally posted by Bonker Gudd
The Bible tells him to do this.
lol :)Quote:
Originally posted by maxl
Well, we're lucky he didn't read the Mein Kampf(sp?):D
Cander
By banning J4U, we have sunk to his level...And that's precisely why he shouldn't be banned. We should be more tolerant.Quote:
The No relgious posts at the top of page wasn't enough of a warning? J4U showed no intention of following the rules. Besides, J4U has his own forum to discuss this stuff. How much you want a bet that he would ban you in a second if you posted something he found offensive on his forum?
Simon
is intolerance towards the intolerant of the intolerant tolerant?
Whats wrong about intolerance? Without intolerance, no evolution.
I'm not advocating intolerance, but i'm not nessesarily a hypocrit.
Strangly enough, the topic of tolerance was on South Park last night! :D
Kedaman
Get your fleet away from mine:p
Nice avatar - obviously its not a premonition;)
Kedaman
Yes!...I think...Quote:
is intolerance towards the intolerant of the intolerant tolerant?
So?Quote:
Whats wrong about intolerance? Without intolerance, no evolution.
By the way...I like your avatar!
Go turkey! Keda, love your avatar :cool: :D
He had enough of a warning that this would happen.Quote:
Originally posted by OrdinaryGuy
Well, I always have tried to look at things from the other's point of view. He obviously felt hurt (like I care though) about the religious ban and wanted to express his views on it. This thread was never intended to be a religious debate (at least i think). Brad banned him within 5 minutes of this thread being started. I doubt he ever gave him a formal warning or talked to any of the admins.
Thanks simon, ranj and vicky :) btw ranj, you'd better line up your fleets ;)
Simon
a double negation is true, but a negation is still a negation correct?Quote:
Yes!...I think...
what's sinking to a level have to do with intolerance?Quote:
So?
Dunno - but thats what will happen to your fleets after I depth charge them.:)Quote:
Originally posted by kedaman
what's sinking to a level have to do with the price of fish?
its your fishermen's who'll have to pay in the end :po
:D:D
Jesus4U was not banned because of his religious beliefs. He was warned several times in the past by me and Jamie and more recently in private communication between him and Brad, and we gave him more leeway than most users who become problems. He was banned simply because he refused to go along with the rules.
are you going to ban everyone who use the f word, or accidentally answers "inaccurately" on a question trying to help?
Just like it always has been, people who use vulgarities, insult people, or whatever will be warned one or more times and only if they continue will they be banned.Quote:
Originally posted by kedaman
are you going to ban everyone who use the f word...?
Obviously not. What would make you think that?Quote:
Originally posted by kedaman
...or accidentally answers "inaccurately" on a question trying to help?
Part of the new AUP that one shouldn't post misleading or incorrect information or something like that.Quote:
Originally posted by MartinLiss
Obviously not. What would make you think that?
Ked, you know aswell as I do what sort of context that particular rule is given in.