This sucks big time......MS shame shame

Check your end user license on XP, if you ain't using Professional, your in breach if you load VNC or PC Anywhere:eek:

bollocks to M$

I aint gonna purchase any M$ software ever again, they are starting to be real twats in need of some skin kicking

once i buy software, i do what i want with it

Whats stopping you? oooooh the EULA says i cant do something, jeez if i actually LISTENED to those things i would ge ALOT less work done than i do

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Originally posted by Gandalf_Grey_
Whats stopping you? oooooh the EULA says i cant do something, jeez if i actually LISTENED to those things i would ge ALOT less work done than i do

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hahahahahaaha :D it's so true

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Originally posted by Jethro
Check your end user license on XP, if you ain't using Professional, your in breach if you load VNC or PC Anywhere:eek:

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What, specifically, does it say? I don't have Windows XP (Home or Pro) and I can't find a copy of the EULA anywhere. I gotta see this to believe it.

http://www.mandrakeforum.com/print.php?sid=1292

And then again :rolleyes:

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Whats stopping you? oooooh the EULA says i cant do something, jeez if i actually LISTENED to those things i would ge ALOT less work done than i do

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if people listened to the EULA then i wouldn't own WinXP corporate... or just about any other software...

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Originally posted by Skitchen8
if people listened to the EULA then i wouldn't own WinXP corporate... or just about any other software...

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Once again the leet kids miss the point, this is in terms of a company wanting to move to XP. Microsoft suck, yet another reason why alot of software houses, who are partners with MS will not switch to XP.

In effect MS are saying, you must install XP Professional on all support machines, upping the cash flow into the coffers of MS...

and justin says that people hate microsoft needlessly :rolleyes:

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and justin says that people hate microsoft needlessly :rolleyes:

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It is needless, because youre playing by the rules. I don't care what MS tells me the bottom line is i'm gonna run this app or that app if I want and they wont' tell me different, not in a EULA.

I'm not going to submit myself to a lower class of OS just so i can play by the rule book.

well i really have the sam opinion however a bussiness or something would have to hate that andalso if this ssccaa (whatever) bill passes then you are going to have to play by the rule book, or else! :p

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Umm, GOD are you STUPID??

Microsoft is OPPOSING the SSSCA, as is Intel and several other big companies. The media companies such as Disney are pushing it.

Learn your facts first.

Are the time warner bastards pushing it?

i know MS is opposing it but if it passes then you will still have to stick to the EULA alot more than you do now

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i know MS is opposing it but if it passes then you will still have to stick to the EULA alot more than you do now

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Oh, I thought you meant that Bill was going to pass it, as if he were pushing the bill.

My bad :p

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I would assume so being that they own a record label and all.

So what exactly is this bill perposing?

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So what exactly is this bill perposing?

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That you won't be able to have digital audio/video on your computer and it basically turns your computer into a VCR playback machine where you can just watch stuff but not save it.

and also you can have only government approved spyware on your system. I love living in Canada, if our CD-R thing passes i will just take a drive to rydens (a store just over the US border) and pick up some more. I am sooo close to the us border (half an hour drive from here) i can get stuff shipped to rydens border store and pick it up there

Arg I hope the people voting on the bill have kids and have computers and their getting free ****. So the kids can bitching to there parents. :D

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Arg I hope the people voting on the bill have kids and have computers and their getting free ****. So the kids can bitching to there parents. :D

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Yeah...:p

Kid: Daddy Daddy dont pass that bil, I wont be able to get all my Nsync Music.
Dad: In the grand scheme of things...(blah blah blah)
Kid: Fine then Take this!!!!

http://www.wrfx.com/timages/page/ouch-soccer.jpg

Dad:....ok...you...win....

:D

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Kid: Daddy Daddy dont pass that bil, I wont be able to get all my Nsync Music.
Dad: In the grand scheme of things...(blah blah blah)
Kid: Fine then Take this!!!!

http://www.vbforums.com/

Dad:....ok...you...win....

:D

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Hopefully Hollings' golf-playing cronies decide to kick his ass one day instead of playing golf :cool:

Anyhoo...

OMG! that just gave me an idea about AN AMAZING TERRORIST ATTACK!!!. Put bombs in golf balls, its genious. I would kill off every wealthy/powerful person in the world!!! OMG!

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OMG! that just gave me an idea about AN AMAZING TERRORIST ATTACK!!!. Put bombs in golf balls, its genious. I would kill off every wealthy/powerful person in the world!!! OMG!

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Stupid people would be the 1st to go ;)

well the thing is that senator hollings prolly brought his kids up thinking stealing software is wrong, his kids are probably like the flanders kids.

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well the thing is that senator hollings prolly brought his kids up thinking stealing software is wrong, his kids are probably like the flanders kids.

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I guess they also think using computers as anything more than TVs is wrong

When golf goes bad...

these kinds of people run adequacy.org i go there about every 2 days for a laugh.

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:p

Let's keep the chit-chatter down...

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It is needless, because youre playing by the rules. I don't care what MS tells me the bottom line is i'm gonna run this app or that app if I want and they wont' tell me different, not in a EULA.

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You would if you use MS logos on your business stationary, and have to abide by all EULA requirements.....

MS aren't worried about the home user guys, this is aimed directly at business....

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You would if you use MS logos on your business stationary, and have to abide by all EULA requirements.....

MS aren't worried about the home user guys, this is aimed directly at business....

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Wouldn't most businesses get the pro edition anyway? Or most likely even keep Windows 2000 since, functionally, XP is a dismal upgrade.

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Wouldn't most businesses get the pro edition anyway? Or most likely even keep Windows 2000 since, functionally, XP is a dismal upgrade.

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We use Win2K, Unix, and Linux ... our Tech manager refuses to have an XP machine on the network...


Nope generally Business runs on the Pro servers and desktop clients ... have a look around how many XP systems are installed in offices ... jack at the moment....

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We use Win2K, Unix, and Linux ... our Tech manager refuses to have an XP machine on the network...


Nope generally Business runs on the Pro servers and desktop clients ... have a look around how many XP systems are installed in offices ... jack at the moment....

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There's no reason for businesses to run XP over 2000. More bugs than 2k with no extra functionality.

As for the home environment, it's a hell of a lot better than 98, but I still like 2K better. I'll try XP again when it reaches SP1.

99.9% of the MS servers running out of here are Win2k with the odd NT 4.0 upgarde or rebuild....

About sixty percent of total servers shipped are loaded with some version of Unix however...

Yeap running Win2k at home myself....it rocks!

http://www.microsoft.com runs windows 2000 (and not XP)

Headlines l would get a laugh out of....

"Microsoft replaces internal NT servers with Unix box":D

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XP sucks

2K owns

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XP sucks

2K owns

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2K rocks;)

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2K rocks;)

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Yup.

I'm gonna give XP another shot when it reaches SP1 though. I'll tell everyone how it goes...

But it has too many bugs right now. A hell of a lot better than Windows 98 or that crap ME, but not enoguh to make me switch.

The ClearType is nice though, you gotta admit :)

I've got ME on this laptop and I cant run ePSXe or anything without it randomly restarting, i really need to put 2k on it.

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I've got ME on this laptop and I cant run ePSXe or anything without it randomly restarting, i really need to put 2k on it.

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Is it your laptop?

Specs? :)

While looking online for some resemblance of a EULA for WinXP, I found this:
http://marketing.infoworld.com/press...rea2.asp?ID=22
Is that true???

Basically, that article states that the EULA for WinXP "authorizes Microsoft to access user workstations at will", and gives "Microsoft the right to automatically download updates to its operating system software and Digital Rights Management technology". :eek:


I'm thinking of buying WinXP just so I can see what exactly this EULA says..

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Originally posted by Tygur
While looking online for some resemblance of a EULA for WinXP, I found this:
http://marketing.infoworld.com/press...rea2.asp?ID=22
Is that true???

Basically, that article states that the EULA for WinXP "authorizes Microsoft to access user workstations at will", and gives "Microsoft the right to automatically download updates to its operating system software and Digital Rights Management technology". :eek:


I'm thinking of buying WinXP just so I can see what exactly this EULA says..

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Dude, don't buy XP just to see the EULA...

I can probably get you that...I have the XP CD.

I was (partly) kidding, anyway. I do want to get WinXP, not just to see the EULA. It looks kinda cool. The only argument against it I can find (aside from this EULA crap) is that some people don't like the interface.

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Originally posted by Tygur
I was (partly) kidding, anyway. I do want to get WinXP, not just to see the EULA. It looks kinda cool. The only argument against it I can find (aside from this EULA crap) is that some people don't like the interface.

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As I say, if you want to be ethical, "obtain" the OS first and "test drive" it. If you like it, buy it. If you don't, delete it.

Simple as that...nobody loses out, nobody's being unethical, nobody spends $100 on something they won't use.