Hey, here in Cornwall there's a lot of talk about getting independance for Cornwall.
Hell, we had our own king not more than five hundred years ago.
We don't belong in England and it's about time we were freed from you saxon skum!
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Hey, here in Cornwall there's a lot of talk about getting independance for Cornwall.
Hell, we had our own king not more than five hundred years ago.
We don't belong in England and it's about time we were freed from you saxon skum!
Now that we have your recipe for pasties, I can't see the problem.
Go away then :p
Prince Charles owns Cornwall anyway.
It's not fair:(
Scotland get thier own Parliment
Wales gets their an assmembly (whatever that is suposed to mean)
Northern Ireland get a shambles called an Assembly
Cornwall want a regional balls-up
Newcastle have their own language:)
When is it England's turn?
They can have independence if they take Prince Charles. Citizenship will be granted to native Cornish Speakers;)Quote:
Originally posted by Bonker Gudd
Prince Charles owns Cornwall anyway.
Good idea - Cornwall's thriving economy should keep you bouyant without westminster's coffers for at least a millenium :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Fried Egg
Hey, here in Cornwall there's a lot of talk about getting independance for Cornwall.
Hell, we had our own king not more than five hundred years ago.
We don't belong in England and it's about time we were freed from you saxon skum!
Gaffer -
So, now you've bled us dry, we've got no choice but to depend on England?Quote:
Good idea - Cornwall's thriving economy should keep you bouyant without westminster's coffers for at least a millenium
Parts of Cornwall used to be amoung the richest in Britain. We've done it once, we can do it again!
Right On!
Mark Sreeves -
Hey, start your own thread!Quote:
When is it England's turn?
RSINGH -
Well - You've got our recipe but you still can't get it right can you!Quote:
Now that we have your recipe for pasties, I can't see the problem.
Even worse - look what we did for that traditional Dutch delicacy - Hash Browns, its full of effin' potatoes;)Quote:
Originally posted by Fried Egg
Well - You've got our recipe but you still can't get it right can you!
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Cornwall is part of england you goonQuote:
Originally posted by Fried Egg
So, now you've bled us dry, we've got no choice but to depend on England?
Right, I am declaring independance of my house from England, simply because I'm a wacko with no idea about anything
I say to anyone who wants independence (this goes esp. to the scots and the welsh)...screw you then, if you think you can do a better job on your pitiful lonesome, go right ahead
This place is pitiful enough with all the countries united, just how crap are you going to be on your own???
I'm also declaring my independence, and setting myself up as a tax-haven.
Whilst Cornwall is, obviously, considered part of England, it does have historical reasons for considering itself as distinct from the rest of England.Quote:
Cornwall is part of england you goon
Right, I am declaring independance of my house from England, simply because I'm a wacko with no idea about anything
The have their own language for one thing. Not many other parts of England can boast that.
They consider themselves one of the celtic nations (along with Ireland, Scotland and Wales).
can i set up "techinacally" off-shore back accounts with you?
The trouble with the Cornish is that they all have bushy eyebrows and webbed hands/feet.
I've got my own language, it's called Bollox, therefore I declare me independantQuote:
Originally posted by simonm
Whilst Cornwall is, obviously, considered part of England, it does have historical reasons for considering itself as distinct from the rest of England.
The have their own language for one thing. Not many other parts of England can boast that.
They consider themselves one of the celtic nations (along with Ireland, Scotland and Wales).
When does it stop?? Shall we have individual counties becoming "nations" which are as poor and insignificant as Luxembourg???
History is something people pay a lot of attention to when it suits them, and something they ignore when it doesn't.
Hey, we've been neglected by Westminster for years. Last year we got objective one funding from europe 'cause we're on of the poorest places in the european union. What have the English ever done for us?
Just 'cause everyones jumping on the independance bandwagon like rats leaping off a sinking ship, no need to get so hairy man!
The empire's dead.
Get over it! :p
YOU ARE ENGLISH YOU NONCE!
So have I. West Sussex...never gets a visit from Mr Blair. Oh boo hoo I'm so upset We must declare independance because we never get a cabinet minister come an visit us. We are so far down the M23 they don't even know where it is!!!!
Wo is me! East Sussex...always gets the Labour conference, but never West Sussex. It's a tragedy I tell yous!!
No, You get over it. It's a patheticlly rediculous notion.
Own parliament?? Surely that's a joke??
What are they going to rule over?
A dead mining industry
Hideous unemployment
Piss poor/non existant public services
Local authority spends the money it is given by government. If your local autority is doing a bad job of spending it, you should boot them out, not cry over how villianous "Westminster" has been to you
Trust me - you do not want a party conference on your doorstep. It ****s up the whole place for weeks. I'd rather they all just buggered off and left us in peace.
If you want to set up an off-shore account in my Invisible State, it's quite simple to do - and we have great secrecy laws. Just give me all your money, and don't tell anyone.
Good grief. Why don't we all just split up and each house can be a country.
Seeing as you're asking what England's ever done for Cornwall (which is odd considering Cornwall's in England), I am asking you the reciprocal question: what has Cornwall ever done for England?
I'd love to see what the Cornish Ministry of Defense came up with :rolleyes:
You could set up your own country with hybrid Anglo-American spelling, Harry. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by HarryW
I'd love to see what the Cornish Ministry of Defense came up with :rolleyes:
And I thought it was only religous guys who were a bit nutty...
A good point well made, Duncan ;)
well they could throw all those peices of coal they've got lying around at passing fighter aircraft.
or make barricades out of surf boards
... or build the world's first all-tin aeroplane.
which would take off from that major airport they've...oh wait, scrub that
Hey you guys, just 'cause England's long since whitewashed our language and culture doesn't mean that our sense of spirit is crushed!
Does any of you remember the Cornish Rebellion? We marched all the way from Cornwall to London but, thanks to the cowardly Welsh who were supposed to rendezvous with us, we were massacared.
Hey, we don't mine coal down here, we mine (or did) tin.Quote:
well they could throw all those peices of coal they've got lying around at passing fighter aircraft.
Why don't you just give us back our freedom?
tin/coal
still nothing left
You seem to have trouble understanding that you are in England, and you are English
Why is it a them and us scenario you are obsessed with?
I blame Norman
Norman? Mr N. Conquest, is that?
:D
Actually why don't we also lay some of the blame on Julius and Augustus's doorstep while we're at it...
What? What freedom is there to give you? The freedom to make your own laws? Why don't we just give everyone the the freedom to make their own laws then? We can have 50 million different countries each with their own laws instead of just a few. Wow, wouldn't that be a great step forwards for freedom.Quote:
Originally posted by Fried Egg
Hey you guys, just 'cause England's long since whitewashed our language and culture doesn't mean that our sense of spirit is crushed!
Does any of you remember the Cornish Rebellion? We marched all the way from Cornwall to London but, thanks to the cowardly Welsh who were supposed to rendezvous with us, we were massacared.
Hey, we don't mine coal down here, we mine (or did) tin.
Why don't you just give us back our freedom?
Come off it, you're hardly an oppressed people.
Your culture? What exactly is so special about Cornish culture? How has Cornwall being part of England 'whitewashed' your culture? It's the same with the language - what exactly is it that makes you think things would be any different? Having more languages to deal with isn't of any benefit to anyone, and Cornwall would be just as full of McDonaldses and Burger Kings and KFCs and Virgin Megastores and Tescos and whatever else you consider to have destroyed 'your culture' as it is now. That is inescapeable unless you move Cornwall to the moon, which right now isn't sounding like a bad idea.
Bloody Romans. What have they ever done for us?
(Where's MontyPython4U when you need him?)
Moon pasties? They'll never catch on.Quote:
Originally posted by HarryW
That is inexcapeable unless you move Cornwall to the moon, which right now isn't sounding like a bad idea.
What about the aqueduct? :pQuote:
Originally posted by InvisibleDuncan
Bloody Romans. What have they ever done for us?
(Where's MontyPython4U when you need him?)
...as for that Democrates, it was 'im and his damn fangled philosophosophising that got us enslaved with all this new age thinking bollox - so don't let him get away with it either.
Oh and that Eve bird - if she'd never eaten that friggin' apple they wouldn't have had to leave that effin' garden and populate the rest of the fruggin world and Cornwall could have [enter whatever you wish!]
Right - where's that Claudia? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by RSINGH
[enter whatever you wish!]
We are not English. We have our own culture and language and have been absorbed into England after a deliberate attempt to supress our sense of identity.
Cornwall was the last place in England to finally surrender to the Saxons in the 9th century. Until then, we were a seperate and independant nation and had been even during the roman occupation of Britain.
Ethnically and culturally, we are distinct from the rest of England. Just because you didn't learn about us in your "anglo-centric" history lessons doesn't mean we never existed!
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Originally posted by InvisibleDuncan
Right - where's that Claudia? ;)
Ha Ha Ha - Excellent!!:D
Nothin you have said here is news to me, except that your suggestion that Cornwall isn't English. Of course it's English. It's in England.Quote:
Originally posted by Fried Egg
We are not English. We have our own culture and language and have been absorbed into England after a deliberate attempt to supress our sense of identity.
Cornwall was the last place in England to finally surrender to the Saxons in the 9th century. Until then, we were a seperate and independant nation and had been even during the roman occupation of Britain.
Ethnically and culturally, we are distinct from the rest of England. Just because you didn't learn about us in your "anglo-centric" history lessons doesn't mean we never existed!
So what are you trying to get away from? What are you hoping to achieve?
You are shouting about a pointless cause.
Hey, Harry!
In answer to your questions, we are hoping to acheive independance and we want to get away from England.
Just because we were conquered and absorbed into England, doesn't mean that we have to recognise it!Quote:
Of course it's English. It's in England.
Why is it pointless? Because you don't give a damn? Once we have achieved independance and are free from imperial domination, we can begin to re-assert ourselves and restore our once great culture.Quote:
You are shouting about a pointless cause.
If you think it's pointless, fine! To us, it means a lot.
Why not give us a referendum?
Keep on fighting for you believe in Fried Egg! I keep hoping that Texas will sucede from the US and rejoin Mexico but I haven't had any luck getting many people signed up for my cause.
That much is obvious, but what's the benefit of it?Quote:
Originally posted by Fried Egg
we are hoping to acheive independance and we want to get away from England.
Fine, don't recognise it then, but I don't see what you've got to gain from ignoring it.Quote:
Just because we were conquered and absorbed into England, doesn't mean that we have to recognise it!
No, because you have more or less nothing to gain by splitting off.Quote:
Why is it pointless? Because you don't give a damn?
Imperial domination? Give me a break. Don't people in Cornwall get a vote or something? What's so special about Cornish culture that was once so great and is ever going to be restored? There are many cultures that have been and gone. Few are ever going to be restored, and that's no great loss.Quote:
Once we have achieved independance and are free from imperial domination, we can begin to re-assert ourselves and restore our once great culture.
To who? Proportionally, how many Cornish residents take your strange point of view?Quote:
If you think it's pointless, fine! To us, it means a lot.
Because that costs a lot of money, and we don't have referendums about every stupid idea that any old idiot comes up with.Quote:
Why not give us a referendum?
Can parts of Cornwall then break from the rest?
I see myself leading (since I'm certainly not Saxon and many current Cornishmen including our high cholestorol friend might be) a great 'Lizard' based empire and warring endlessly with the Saxonized masses of the rest of the penisular so falsely lead by the "Traitors of Truro".
No great loss to you perhaps. But then it's not your culture, right?Quote:
What's so special about Cornish culture that was once so great and is ever going to be restored? There are many cultures that have been and gone. Few are ever going to be restored, and that's no great loss.
Well, give us a referendum and you might find out.Quote:
Proportionally, how many Cornish residents take your strange point of view?
Right on! Can I infer from this that I am an "old idiot"? Of course, it must be idiotic to want independance from England! :rolleyes:Quote:
Because that costs a lot of money, and we don't have referendums about every stupid idea that any old idiot comes up with.
Why do you desperately want us to stay in your country? We want a fresh start and I so no reason why you won't let us have it!
Where the bloody hell is Cornwall anyway ?
I like the idea of bringing back city-states. Where do I sign to make Hoboken-Zuid independent ? :D
And stay off the moon d'ya hear ! I intend to live there (whenever I get around to finish my rocket that is) !
There is no such thing as a fresh start. Ever. Nobody starts again fresh. It's a complete myth.
I don't desperately want Cornwall to stay as part of England, I just don't see the point in pandering to the whims of some isolationist minority and making life more complicated than it has to be. You still haven't given any benefits to Cornwall being at all seperate.
Your culture is already lost, bar the cheese-rolling. The culture in England is hardly what you'd call Saxon. Cultures change, and however much you might want it back you're never going to get whatever you think the Cornish culture is back.Quote:
No great loss to you perhaps. But then it's not your culture, right?
Time changes things. Get over it.
GAMMMEEEE ON!!!!!
More Cornishmen needed to join this thread I think!!!!
*Crispin Steps in!!!
*and promptly closes the A30 at the tamar river, and disconnects the tamar bridge!!!!!
Fried Egg - it's all taken care of!!!
Seriously though I'm all for it.....for lots of reasons.....
But what about the famous cornish cheese-mines?
SD
Presumably you will be expelling the non-indigenous population;)Quote:
Originally posted by crispin
Seriously though I'm all for it.....for lots of reasons.....
do elaborate, we are intruiged to know what you would gain from such a course of actionQuote:
Seriously though I'm all for it.....for lots of reasons.....
I would first get rid of all Punk sheep ;)
It's complicated - I think I need the proverbial Geoffrey to answer this one Bungle....
Don't want a thread war on this one guys - I prefer the light hearted stuff unless forced, so i'll just say that those are my views and opinions and they are not up for debate in any manner as they belong to me.
Punk sheep only reside in West Sussex, so you're safe there ;)
Geoffrey doesn't actually know anything, except what's in the script
Although I have to say I think your a bit mad if that is the case. I mean...what good would it do??? Still, I don't know, I've never even been to cornwall. Nearest I got was Devon
If they don't expel the "Saxons" (I'm guessing that even RSINGH counts as a Saxon for these purposes) then all they stand to change is not getting tax subsidies and sliding further into decline.Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
do elaborate, we are intruiged to know what you would gain from such a course of action
I say we keep Cornwall, and build car parks on it.
It's a bit far out of town for a huge park and ride scheme though innit?
Well that sure sounds better than having their "culture" "demolished" by the "evil" EnglishQuote:
Originally posted by Kzin
all they stand to change is not getting tax subsidies and sliding further into decline.
"don't it always seem to go, you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone...Paved paradise and put up a parking lot..mmmmmm, la, la, la, la!"
Joni Mitchell circa 1963