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yes he is
I wonder how Clinton would have done it. I think it would have been a sterner message, stronger language, prolly better delivered...
For all that, the message was good.
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The only point made in his speach:
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We will make no distinction between those who commited these acts, and those that harbour them.
yes, which as far as i can interpret means that afghanistan will die...
Not necessarily die; but they will share in the total responsibility.
is there a difference??
I think you misinterpreted that. The harbor (-our) people do not mean citizens but the leaders of the attack. They did not commit it but they instructed others to do it.
I think everything will come out in 1 or 2 days.
his goons will suffer, and he eventually, also the taliban who are hiding him.
So, you still mean Osama-bin-ladan. Nobody know how have done this yet. Nobody has any proof!Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
his goons will suffer, and he eventually, also the taliban who are hiding him.
The US State Department does.
If they believe it was Osama then they should show a proof for it.
the state department has proof
he's american public enemy no.1
he is a millionaire, he has many resources and many goons
he said not 3 weeks ago American would witness an act of terrorism on a massive scale
His goons bombed the WTC in 93
Pretty conclusive evidence.
Show to whom? You? Me? What can we do about it? Bin Laden will be dead before we see the proof; there's no doubt in my mind that it exists, and it incriminates Bin Laden and his terrorists enough to warrant extrajudicial execution.
Again, where do you get that info. If you have a source that the rest of us don't, please tell.
Please answer my question.
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As I said, the CBC radio earlier today, and the CNN just a few moments ago.
The Beeb's been banging on about Bin Laden, and they said the state dept had some stuff on him.Quote:
Originally posted by tumblingdown
Again, where do you get that info. If you have a source that the rest of us don't, please tell.
Please answer my question.
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Adam, I have been wantching CNN on one tv for the last 5 hours, and CNBC on the other. You are talking ****.
Chris, fella, your a reasonable guy. Think. It is doubtfull the US mil no *** did this yet. It may or maynot have been who ever...
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Affganistan can die, but ....beter remember that some arab ****ry have The Bomb...
I DONT KNOW the really result of a sucht thing.... if a ful ****ry , and not only the responsible , be punished
I'm only relaying what News 24 has said. However they of course did say they were "unconfirmed reports"...so who knowsQuote:
Originally posted by tumblingdown
Chris, fella, your a reasonable guy. Think. It is doubtfull the US mil no *** did this yet. It may or maynot have been who ever...
I don't appreciate that kind of language. I'm only relaying what I've heard.Quote:
Adam, I have been wantching CNN on one tv for the last 5 hours, and CNBC on the other. You are talking ****.
well Bin Ladin said himself
he did not do it *hmmmmmm*
but he supports it
i highly doubt he did,
but only time will tell
Oh, I didn't realize that. I guess he's off the hook, then.Quote:
well Bin Ladin said himself he did not do it *hmmmmmm*
he is more pissed at Israel
if he carries anything of such, it will be against Israel first
neverless, who ever did it sucks
again, too bad it was americans though..
He does not lie!
Ok, sorry. So where did you hear it?Quote:
Originally posted by aknisely
I don't appreciate that kind of language. I'm only relaying what I've heard.
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For the fourth time, on the CBC radio and the CNN.
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Originally posted by abdul
He does not lie!
From you previous comments this evening, i don't know whether your joking or not...
I presume because your a ****, that your not.
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thats your proof?
interesting...
td, now i will ask that you ignore him :)
no offense, but a known terrorist isn't on the top of my "He tells the truth" list :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by abdul
He does not lie!
actually Bin Laden is really good with his words
at least from what i heard
if he said he did something, then he did
if not then he didnt
but that again is just what i have heard
he publicly declares war againts US and Israel, so if he did this
he would admit to it
after all, it would be a BIG ego boost for him
to cripple US economy
and army (symbolically)
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the state department has proof
he's american public enemy no.1
he is a millionaire, he has many resources and many goons
he said not 3 weeks ago American would witness an act of terrorism on a massive scale
His goons bombed the WTC in 93
Pretty conclusive evidence.
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evvidence that you have NOT razional mind
This is a PURE FALSE construct
2 + 2 = 4 is true
NOT
2 + 2 MABY = 4
YOU can said after CLEAR PROF, You can't transform in prov the souspect!!!!!!
the today tings was terribol!!!!
he's not just a mere known terrorist, he's public enemy no.1!Quote:
Originally posted by SteveCRM
no offense, but a known terrorist isn't on the top of my "He tells the truth" list :rolleyes:
Yeah whatever. Wake up and smell the coffeeQuote:
Originally posted by Conogelato
evvidence that you have NOT razional mind
nahh
he is US and Israel enemy number one :)
not everyone elses...
This is news to me! Do you have a site for me?Quote:
Originally posted by Conogelato
he said not 3 weeks ago American would witness an act of terrorism on a massive scale
sorry :)Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
he's not just a mere known terrorist, he's public enemy no.1!
they said it on NBC. i heard it too.
He is reported as having said that. I heard it on TV, forgot wich channel coz I was flicking between them.
CNBC and CNN.
What did you hear? You hear *certain* senators views.
YOU MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT HEAR THE STATE DEPARTMENTS VIEW AS REGARD BLAME.
You can get access to all CNN and CNBC transcripts. Show the script that states the US State Depts View or infact any US Govts dept view as regards definative blame, as of now (02:21 UK time).
All US Govt press releases are towards the immidiate disaster recovery. They have not yet announced ANY other action or blame.
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The thing I hate about US is POLICING other countries! I have also read a post saying that "US has wasted its time looking at what other are doing". So that 100% true.
Now Israel-Palestine conflict is never gonna be solved buy talk because it is Islam vs jews. Jews think that all the holly places are theirs and we think that all the holy places are ours. And everybody likes its religious so only the one who attacks and fight for the holly places, gets them.
Isael has understand that that is the case but no Arab or muslim countries has yet opened their mind in the fresh air:mad:
Sorry if I mis-posted that
I saw Bush's whole, about 5 mintues, speech and he did not talk about attacking but on anybody.
I kinda believe Osmin Bin Laden didn't do it.
he says he didn't... fair enough to start with, he could be lying, but why would he do that. He is already No. 1 on America's hit list, and he's not long for this world anyway (by all accounts), so what would he have to lose by owning up and using this attack as a platform for his ravings?
As for Bush's speech :rolleyes: Does he really believe America was attacked because it is "the brightest beacon of freedom and democracy" (***???). Oh, so thats the reason, not for all the other stuff thats been going on.
And the "well make no distinction between terrorists and those harbouring them"
It's interesting that America has refused/hampered the extradition of IRA terrorists to Britain on a number of occasions... so whats the difference.
And if Osmin Bin Laden were in Canada, they probably wouldn't hand him over, as they (like most civilised countries) refuse to deport criminals who will face execution in America. Whats America going to do, bomb Canadians for being humanitarian.
I know he doesn't write these speeches, but I'm frightened that he doesn't have the brains to realise that he is talking bollocks.
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The United States of America polices countries that cannot responsibly police themselves.Quote:
The thing I hate about US is POLICING other countries
Really?? I didn't know thatQuote:
Originally posted by SurfDemon
It's interesting that America has refused/hampered the extradition of IRA terrorists to Britain on a number of occasions... so whats the difference.
That is true actually. It's against the law here to extradite anyone who would face the death penalty as it violates human rightsQuote:
And if Osmin Bin Laden were in Canada, they probably wouldn't hand him over, as they (like most civilised countries) refuse to deport criminals who will face execution in America.
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i apologies if i ever had doubted your intelligence
that is IF i ever have
:)
i like the statement you made why would he do it, he is already number one, what can more he want?
Sort of. The extradition treaties that we (in Canada) have with other nations is standard. The basic premise is that you cannot extradite someone for something that is not also a crime in Canada (i.e., someone in Afghanistan cannot extradite someone for being a Christian, for example). The Supreme Court is deciding, or has recently decided, whether or not that could be extended to punishment as well.
Who cares if he did it. He is a ****in wacko terrorist anyway. I say we hunt down every known terrorist and hang them on worldwide TV. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Abdul. You ****in ****.
BARK, BARK, and bark!!:pQuote:
Originally posted by Chris Byrom
Who cares if he did it. He is a ****in wacko terrorist anyway. I say we hunt down every known terrorist and hang them on worldwide TV. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Abdul. You ****in ****.
Forgive my ignorance, but I really don't understand what you mean by that...Quote:
Originally posted by abdul
BARK, BARK, and bark!!:p
and you saw this with your OWN eyez?Quote:
Originally posted by Chris Byrom
Who cares if he did it. He is a ****in wacko terrorist anyway. I say we hunt down every known terrorist and hang them on worldwide TV. Put that in your pipe and smoke it Abdul. You ****in ****.
right
Give me a break. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker. Do you think he would be the most wanted person by the US government if he wasn't? I respect your right to your religious beliefs, but acting like bin Ladin is a choir boy is just stupid.
I don't think anyone is disputing Osmin Bin Laden is not a particularly nice person. However, where I come from we still believe in giving people an honest trial if at all possible. Hunting people down and killing them would make us exactly the same as them. Murderers.
Find the people we think are responsible. Prove their guilt, and punish them (if they are guilty of course).
It's easy to lash out in anger. But how will that be productive.
It was interesting to see that Bush said that the attacks on the US would strengthen their resolve.... now, maybe I'm missing something here, but there's probably some guy in Afghanistan saying that any US attacks will just strengthen their resolve... so it becomes a self-perpetuating cycle.
Attacking them will only result in innocents being killed (or portrayed to be killed) and will increase hatred of the US. The only way of difusing this situation is to put the guilty parties on public trial.
Unless of course you're happy for more innocents to die so that you can have your vengance?
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Oh Yeah! And while I'm here, why does Bush (and others) keep refering to this as a cowardly attack? It's an evil, dastardly, sick, twisted, etc. attack, but one thing it is not is cowardly. These people went out and killed themselves for some cause they believed in (however screwed up it is). How can that be cowardly???
Bush should really think before he opens his mouth..
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I beleive the act itself is cowardly. Attacking civilians like that and not claiming responsibility is pretty cowardly.
Like it or not, that's going to be the case. As soon as there's authoritative evidence that Bin Laden is responsible, he will be found and shot. Capturing him and giving him a year-long trial will only give terrorists one more thing to bomb about. Next time, it could be the Whitehouse, or a university, or Disneyland.Quote:
Hunting people down and killing them would make us exactly the same as them. Murderers.
yep, him and all his followers will die, and most likely everyone in afghanistand
A: Canada would hand him over in a heart beat.Quote:
Originally posted by SurfDemon
I kinda believe Osmin Bin Laden didn't do it.
And if Osmin Bin Laden were in Canada, they probably wouldn't hand him over, as they (like most civilised countries) refuse to deport criminals who will face execution in America. Whats America going to do, bomb Canadians for being humanitarian.
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B: America will never bomb canada, Hockey season would suck, We wouldn't have Molson Beer any more!!! and we like you guys.
C: If that AHole was in canada all of the US Citizens who can walk/run/drive a car would be in canada dragging him to the US by his scruffy beard.
If he actually did it!