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Where'd u get that picture? If I were them... I'd be as far away from their home country as fast as possible. There's no way the US is going to let those moron survive.
Kill 'em all, let god sort them out.
its sickening to see others laugh at our crisis. we never laughed at theirs.
Actually I'm laughin at theirs right now :p :p :p :pQuote:
Originally posted by markman
its sickening to see others laugh at our crisis. we never laughed at theirs.
So you say to kill all of us in Afghanistan AND also in Palestine:rolleyes: Then who actually made the attack on US? US is that stupid is sick (*****) to attack on anybody countried and it does not have any clue of who did it!!!!
http://www.walla.co.il
Or a direct link:
http://news.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?tsscr...th=1&id=114762
It's in Hebrew though, I doubt it can be of any use to you.
That website is not in English
If you have read my post you wouldn't have had to reply... :rolleyes:
Blame it on the Taliban and nuke Kabal. That way John Howard wouldn't have to make such a goose of himself over the boat ppl.
i would like too be there in palestine with a 50.cal on a jeep shooting all of them to bits..
and while am at it i might slice abduls throat and any of his buddies that might try to stop me.
AHHHHHHHH i feel better now.. i got that out of my system.
If the US actually wanted to wipe out every Muslim in Aphganistan or Palestine....they would have no trouble. Keep that in mind (if u have one...)Quote:
Originally posted by abdul
So you say to kill all of us in Afghanistan AND also in Palestine:rolleyes: Then who actually made the attack on US? US is that stupid is sick (*****) to attack on anybody countried and it does not have any clue of who did it!!!!
So, you are talking about killing all those innocents (whole) in Afghanistan and Palestine?
I think that is why (whoever attacked) told US that even if I does not have that much bloddy weapons as US has, it can still kill scores of them to death!
THAT IS WHY POLICING IS/WAS/WILL NOT BE GOOD THING FOR US TO DO!
F***!! abdull make some ****ing sense.. instead of gibberish nonsense!!
"it can still kill scores of them to death!"
mind telling me what other way their is to kill someone without death being involved??
dumb****
Then you mush first look at other people's post as the one before my post. If he is saying that *killing aaaaaaallll the muslims in Afghanistan and palestine* then are all those terrorists. Is not there any civilian or innocent in them?
the terrorists today didnt seem to care how many they killed...
So as the others say.
When I said "kill 'em all, let god sort them out." I meant kill EVERYONE. If the country allowed people like that to be anywhere but prison or dead, then they deserve to die like the terrorists that did it. If they had stricter rules, then this probably wouldn't have happened. And I'm saying this without blaming a certain country/race/etc. I just say whoever did this/let this happen deserves to die. If it involves killing millions of Americans, or Muslims, or Jews, or whoever the hell did it, then so be it. I don't give a ***** who did it. When they get caught, I hoped the get nuked so bad that hell sounds like a good place to be... :(
They think that we celebrate their loses. We as Americans grieve for their cause. No more can we do this. We have respected thier believes and our believes (Freedom) has now been violated. Hope their is a quick resolution. To the muslims may your religion regroup and see what the real cause in humanity is. FREEDOM and not for a piece of land. We share ours with the world and fight anyone who violates that.
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why does it matter who we killed??
the terrorists today didnt seem to care how many they killed...
If you do that then your actions are as morally reprehensible as the act of terrorism itself.Quote:
When I said "kill 'em all, let god sort them out." I meant kill EVERYONE
Whilst I am sure that there will be some attack on Bin Laden and or the Taliben regime. I sincerely hope that attempts will be made to ensure they are on legitimate targets rather than indiscriminate bombing of the civillian population, already suffering under an extremely repressive regime.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/...rabs_dc_1.html
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On the other side of the fence, some Arabs and Muslims were celebrating what they saw as ``a lesson to the United States.''
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``The sound of Islamic justice shook New York,'' said one gloating chatterer, who was ejected from the room after stating his opinion. Some other chatterers were also ejected.
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One Palestinian hailed the use of hijacked planes in suicide attacks on enemy interests as the ``weapon of a new era.''
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Several Americans expressed disgust at the street celebrations staged by some Palestinians under Israeli occupation when news of the attacks reached them.
There is a fine line between innocent people and so called "innocent people" who engage in war.. neither should be given mercey.
What have the ordinary non-terrorist Afghans done wrong?
Why should they be punished?
Just because THEY are following islam not American rules:rolleyes:
Well, if current evidence is anything to go by then it's a good enough reason to punish them :rolleyes:
If only for their own stupidity.
are you talking about blood for blood?
exactly what evidence your talking about?
if you punish the innocent
there will be more of this
You know it's funny. I was just thinking today about how i was told i was an ******* and how i was jumping to conclusions about who did this horrible act. And you know what that might me the case. I did jump to conclusions accusing people Muslams
(spelling) for this when all the facts were not out. But answer me this. how can one not feel rage when people in your own area are celebrating this? my friend works in paterson which is a couple of towns away from me. Paterson is made up of mostly african americans and Latin people with a small muslem community. They had a medium sized riot because of this celebrating.
"I will make no distinction between the people who commited this act, and the people who harbor them." George W. Bush
Palestinians (and a lot of other people) are celebrating.
What is so strange here. Today i watch CNN and heard the reporter said thet he and the american people were astonished by the fact that some people are celebrating. That means that the american people don't know what is going on in the world. America is the most hated country in the world. 80 % of the human populatin hates america (everybody except Western europe, australia and canada). Americans killed a lot of innocent people all around the world, so it is normal that people are going to celebrate. America should stop interfearing in other countries business, under the excuse tht human rights are in danger and similar bull s***. It is then when things like this won't happen.
Other countries have killed innocent people.
USA has done it.
Britain has done it.
Japan has done it.
Israel has done it.
Bloody hell, those celebrating Palestinians have done it as well! We don't celebrate when innocent people are killed, whatever the circumstances. Do you think the Americans celebrated when they dropped those atomic bombs on Japan?
We don't celebrate when innocent Palestinian lives are lost, so the least they can do is show a little humanity, or they no more deserve to live than those that perpetrated yesterday's violence.
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Exactly parksie. Of course america has killed people. Look at vietnam. Our armed forces killed women and children when there was no reason for it. It's one thing to hate america and what it stands for. It's another to live in the same country that you condem.
No that is neither rational nor relevant. Who get's mad and wants revenge who celebrates and who just don't show their joy. Point is, that we kill for our own good and that only matters.
Well parksie, i don't think that you could understand the hate thet those people have. You live in GB, one of the most developed countries in the world, a country without teritorial, ethnic or finnancial problems. Americans have their fingers in my country too. They want to make my country a federation between muslims and macedonians (ortodox). There are terorist albanian rebels all over the country and they are supported by america. They kill people and america protects them. They are not people. They have like 10 - 15 children each family and of course that they will want a piece of my country when they are multiplying like rabbits. America is destroying my country and ofcourse i will hate their guts. :mad:
But if we continue talknig about politics things can become dangerous so... ;) :D
Right! Avoid politics at all cost!
As much as I dislike Bush, I fully agree with this statement. We should not make a distinction between the people who did this, and the people that allowed this to happen. They allowed this to happen by allowing them to train terrorists, probably knowing that they were going to attack the US. If you don't want your country and it's economy/population destroyed, then don't let morons like this into the world.Quote:
Originally posted by Dilenger4
"I will make no distinction between the people who commited this act, and the people who harbor them." George W. Bush
And on a different note, if it weren't for the amount of oil in the middle east, I wouldn't be opposed to nuking the whole area. It would end the wars between all the different religions who think that they are the "true" religion. I would just destroy all their holy shrines and other bull****. I feel it's a shame that the world's largest supply of oil comes from a bunch of dumasses that can't agree on a certain religion, or agree to allow freedom of religion.
I guess I'll stop talking now, since I'll probably get flamed by everyone from the middle east. :rolleyes:
Yes Vlatko you are right americans have their fingers in too much.
But as an american citizen i cannot do anything about this. So the fact still remains, if one is under attack or attacked then action must be taken whatever that is.
According to later reports, the pictures shown were not indicative of the Palestinian people. Most of them stayed inside glued to televisions in horror like everyone else. We were just shown the few who had congregated to celebrate.Quote:
Originally posted by Dilenger4
You know it's funny. I was just thinking today about how i was told i was an ******* and how i was jumping to conclusions about who did this horrible act. And you know what that might me the case. I did jump to conclusions accusing people Muslams
(spelling) for this when all the facts were not out. But answer me this. how can one not feel rage when people in your own area are celebrating this? my friend works in paterson which is a couple of towns away from me. Paterson is made up of mostly african americans and Latin people with a small muslem community. They had a medium sized riot because of this celebrating.
"I will make no distinction between the people who commited this act, and the people who harbor them." George W. Bush
Even if you hate a country that much it still is inhuman to celebrate when innocent die.
I wouldnt trust the news media as far as i could kick their collective butts. The words 'beat up' spring to mind. In all the time that this tragedy has been going on and in all of the Muslim world they have ONE video of less than a dozen people celebrating ?????? Hmmmm
You have to remember that these are just people in the streets. Individuals are smart, but crowds are stupid.Quote:
Originally posted by Sc0rp
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filburt1: I agree.
But the reason for this behaviour stands out clearly:
These people are educated to think one common thing, they do not get the chance to think what they really want to.
Read: propoganda.
I think I posted this on another thread (but it might have got deleted). America repeatedly refused to extradite IRA terrorists to Britain until very recently. WHat is the difference between US harbouring terrorists and Afghanistan harbouring terrorists?Quote:
"I will make no distinction between the people who commited this act, and the people who harbor them." George W. Bush
When he says he will attack the people harbouring the terrorists, is he refering to the innocent Afghani people who have no say in whether Bin Laden stays there or not?
Or maybe it will all be all right if he just attacks miltary targets (like the pentagon :rolleyes: )
And finally, if memory serves me right, wasn't it America who financed the Taliban against the Russians?.... I could be well mistaken here, my memory's a bit hazy (I was at college and drunk at the time!).
SD
Then help them to become more free!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Sc0rp
filburt1: I agree.
But the reason for this behaviour stands out clearly:
These people are educated to think one common thing, they do not get the chance to think what they really want to.
Free is free: Either you are or either you aren't.
How do you become "more free" then ? :confused:
- Firstly, it's not a matter of physical territory, it's about education.
- Secondly, they are trying to take my land away from me, while eastern of here, they have PLENTY of room.
And if they were right (which I personally, think they aren't), terrorism is not the proper way to get it, if at all.
BTW, this thread is getting off topic. :rolleyes:
mostly by understanding what it meansQuote:
Originally posted by DWillems
Free is free: Either you are or either you aren't.
How do you become "more free" then ? :confused:
Care to explain then ?
If you don't have the freedom to express yourself, if someone else makes the rules for you to obey no matter what, if someone does not acknowledge that you are a freethinking individual then you're not free. There are no gradations in being free.
Either you are or either you aren't. Being half free is not being free at all. It just means that you have a bit more liberty in some areas. It does not mean that you are a free individual.
Or am I dead wrong here ?
But I'm sure all you prophets of the Truth will point that out for me :)
okay, the BOOLEAN analogy!
Freedom is a subjective concept; freedom from SOMETHING.
right ...
and how exactly does that invalidate my view ?
and I think many of us have seen film of IRA supporters in Boston cheering terrorist acts and know where Armalites came from (and who paid for them) so we can understand the difference between people within a state supporting something and the state itself supporting terrorism.Quote:
Originally posted by SurfDemon
America repeatedly refused to extradite IRA terrorists to Britain until very recently. WHat is the difference between US harbouring terrorists and Afghanistan harbouring terrorists?
well the last I heard deals with afganistan. They are pulling out all americans who are over thier according to my S.S teacher. So im not sure what that means...but it was sure angering to see those dam palistians partying on TV!!!!!!
Ask yourself how many innocents were killed in the attacks in the US. Im not conding the killing of any innocent people, but you seem to think that no one is innocent unless they are muslim.Quote:
Originally posted by abdul
Then you mush first look at other people's post as the one before my post. If he is saying that *killing aaaaaaallll the muslims in Afghanistan and palestine* then are all those terrorists. Is not there any civilian or innocent in them?
In 1991 I was visiting friends in Washington, and we were passing the evening in an Irish bar. There were no actual Irishmen that I could see - just Americans (plus me).Quote:
Originally posted by Kzin
and I think many of us have seen film of IRA supporters in Boston cheering terrorist acts and know where Armalites came from (and who paid for them) so we can understand the difference between people within a state supporting something and the state itself supporting terrorism.
A couple of men walked in rattling a collection tin on behalf of The Friends of the IRA. The exact phrase they used was "Every dollar helps to kill a British soldier". I was stunned to see that virtually everyone there started reaching for money to give to them. I stood up and started shouting at these people - who were to supposed to be our friends and allies, for Christ's sake - pointing out this small fact, plus the point that the IRA were more likely to bomb a shopping centre than anything military. For my trouble, my two friends and I got the living crap kicked out of us by seven or eight people, and were hauled off by the police, accused of having started a brawl. Thankfully we weren't charged, but I didn't leave with any shiny happy feelings about Americans.
Having said that - I've known Americans personally for about half of my life, and none of them were IRA supporters. Two of them even stood up for me and fought alongside me in this bar. These other bastards were a (hopefully) small minority. I don't think I've ever suggested that all of the USA should be nuked because of their actions.
I agree. (I have been in a similair fight over exactly the same subject).
I lived for a short while in Boston, and despite the localised support for the IRA, the vast majority of Americans I know condem the IRA for what they are, terrorists.
Unfortunately in Britain, what we see is news footage of people celebrating the murder of innocent people.... after all, thats what sells news.
These same news-people are showing you footage of a group of Palestinians celebrating (I notice it's exactly the same footage over and over again). I would suggest that this is exactly the same scenario. Just as there are very few Americans who agree with terrorism, I would suggest that there are very few Muslims who agree with terrorism. So let's keep some perspective here when people start talking about wiping out other countries.
SD
So what are you guys going to do if and when the US decides to
attack afghanistan? The talaban has made a comment that if they
are attacked they will retaliate and they are calling for their brothers around the world including the US to fight back. I have talked to numerious people in my area and they all are ready to fight if such a situation arises. Are you?