Any one (mendhak) any further info on this?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4531119.ece
Is it April already?
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Any one (mendhak) any further info on this?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4531119.ece
Is it April already?
It's another in a long line of bigfoot claims. They will announce their findings, submit their evidence and 'scientists' will call it inconclusive, after which the news will fade away into obscurity.
Wow. This actually may be it. I'm pretty skeptical about most things, but Sasquatch I've seen more evidence to the existence of than the non-existence. The pile of evidence that Bigfoot exists is enormous.
They have hair (confirmed to be from an unknown animal), blood with DNA (shown to be human minus one base pair... which doesn't make it human), the infamous prints, video of creatures walking in ways that would be extremely difficult - if not impossible for humans, sounds apparently from the beast that experts can't identify as any other animal, even a potential "nest" found in Ohio; the same state I live in; that was out deep in the middle of nowhere, woven from branches and tallgrass, and when two experts tried to reproduce it, found it a monumentally difficult task...
Also, there are records around the world of the creature or similar creatures, and records from natives around the world who have long regarded it's existence as fact.
The parent site is being slammed right now and ran out of bandwidth and every cryptozoologist of merit seems to be investigating it. This one might have merit and not be some elaborate hoax.
There are experts in weaving "Nests"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenner
If they actually have a body then the body can be studied and something should be able to be conclusively determined. It is human. It isn't human. If it is a nonhuman creature so what. It doesn't surprise me. That there are such creatures doesn't surprise me. We are all witnessing miracles everyday but we take them for granted.
Well, the experts were skeptics who tried their damndest to try to reproduce something even remotely similar to what was found using the same materials... i.e. could something like deer or birds, or even some people whipping the thing up for the hell of it create what was found. Basically, they put in a day's effort and found out the nest-like structure to be a lot more difficult than they anticipated. The sheer size made weight a factor in it's support, and even two people working all day couldn't get anything remotely close to the thing's complexity (the ordered structure and density of weave).
So, their finding was that even though yea, a dedicated person, given enough time, could possibly make something similar; it was unlikely (especially given it's location, i.e. several hours hike to the nearest road) and no known animal constructs structures like that.
Yea, until they turn up the corpse, I won't be convinced. If this turns out to be a "Oh! Someone found the freezer and broke in and stole it!" story, then I'd be sure it's a hoax. Tomorrow, they're holding a press conference to hand over photo and DNA evidence though. Who knows?
my question is why would a british site write about this
i mean how would they learn about it before american stuff
You can find info on bigfoot in American tabloids, too.
My question would be, if they actually did find a real bigfoot, their first thought was to shoot it and kill it?? I mean if you are out trying to discover bigfoot, and he is real, then there is a chance they are pretty damn endangered based on the fact that they are so rare to find. So instead of some sort of capture system or tranquilizer gun, they just fill it with bullets??
These guys are just scam artists trying to make a buck, and unfortunately, they probably are.
I was under the impression that all the bigfoot sightings were in the Pacific Northwest. This one was in north Georgia?!?!? Funny how the sightings are largely made by people who were looking for bigfoot (not those of us who wander the woods for fun), or by people who would profit from them. The picture looks like a gorilla, so they probably just went out and found the gorilla their dreams.
I don't know if it's a hoax or not but if you read the article I don't see anywhere where it says that they shot it.
I think it's likely that there are such creatures. Whether they really found one or not should be revealed rather soon. If you start a story like this there has got to be an ending to it.
from article :
I don't know if this is the costume they're talking about but there are some rather realistic looking sasquatch suits out there. Chest area not so realistic but head is pretty good. Take a look.Quote:
The Bigfoot Field Researchers Organisation, which believes in Bigfoot but not in Rickmat, said the deceased apeman displayed a remarkable likeness to the “Deluxe Sasquatch Costume” on sale on a Hallowe’en costume website for $449.
http://thehorrordome.com/HDSHOPPINGP...uatchLARGE.htm
I think that's it because the price is right. To me the story says a lot about how much we are affected by pictures.
Like Jenner was saying, if at some point the body turns up missing then you know it's a hoax.
http://z.about.com/d/paranormal/1/0/...bigfoot_lg.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by EntityX
Looks like a guy in an ape suit to me. Or maybe Shaggy Hiker.
I think I've been there, but I don't remember anybody with a camera?!?!?
The Times is a Broadsheet (Quality) not a Tabloid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
The article states that they bagged the "Corpse" which I took to mean they came across the "creature" after it had died.Quote:
Originally Posted by kleinma
Personally I like found it amusing that one is a police officer currently on
leave after shooting themsleves whilst persuing a robber suspect.
Probably just a man who started full body shaving at a really young age!
how exactly does something turn up missing?? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by EntityX
Several villages in Nepal believe that the Himalayan Yeti exists. The locals claim that you can hear it sing.
:wave:
people believe and claim lots of things. I like real evidence to satisfy my skepticism.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=T7NDoDeLDYAQuote:
Originally Posted by kleinma
if it takes scary movie 4 to explain it, it must make sense :)
This is what I was referring to. They said that they have a body. If at some point they tell us it was stolen or something or is not available to be studied for whatever reason then I would say that there is about a 99% chance that it is all a big hoax. Though it's possible that they could have found the body and then someone stole the body, it would be a little bit too convenient to be believeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenner
Are there any further articles on the development of this story?
CNN.com is airing a live press conference right now, but I still dont think any additional information is available.
Dunno, the press conference just started Pacific Standard Time. Lot of skeptics on this one though. The weird thing is, even though there's a lot of self-promotion, sensationalism, etc on this one, it's exactly the scenario I'd imagine if two beer-drinkin small-town yokals were to have bumbled upon such a find.
They'd want nothing more than to drum up a huge fanfare in which they'd be in complete control of since they'd have access to the body. They'd want to make sure the world would know exactly who it was that found it and they'd go down in history books. Finally, they'd want to ensure they'd earn some kinda rewards for all of this.
Since those are their primary goals hoax or not, it puts them not doing the "proper" thing into perspective. What they "should" have done is wheeled the body up to Georgia Tech and found somebody in zoology to substantiate their claims; but then they'd be sharing a spotlight with somebody who could easily overshadow them, since everyone would then be glued to the professor's findings and not on them.
I just don't believe that a creature of that size living in America would have totally evaded detection, not only through all the years of development that America has itself gone through, but also when the Native American's ruled this land for a long long time. It is not as if this creature would not have existed then too, yet there is no evidence to date of ANYTHING to show these things are real, other than some blurry photos that have never been verified in any way.
I totally see us finding new species in the ocean, in the extreme places like north pole or something, where humans are not living. Or smaller species in places we do live, or in underground caves. However this thing is HUGE, and would rank up there with some of the biggest mammals on the planet.
If these things are living in the forests of Georgia, I am sure they would have ventured into residential areas, if nothing more, than to look for food.
We see deer, bears, etc.. all the time, which live in the forest, but end up in our back yards, so why not these things?
These guys have a pretty hard uphill battle to prove anything. So far a single bad still picture isn't a very good way to proove anthing.
I'll take a look at CNN.com but I found an article that gives more detail about the body than the article in Post #1.
http://www.truthed.com/Bigfoot/72/Bi...Found_Him.html
If you look at the picture from Post # 25 article it looks like they cut the body into pieces because they didn't have a big enough freezer.
As to evading detection for all these years it's possible. Because they haven't completely evaded detection. That's why there are believers that Bigfoot exists. There hasn't yet been any completely conclusive evidence that says they positively exist but perhaps this latest finding will be it if it is genuine. There's a variety of squid that is known to exist but has only been found dead and never alive. Perhaps this is a sort of parallel case. The Bigfoot creatures may instinctively avoid any contact with man.
you can name almost ANYTHING, and people will say it either exists or doesn't. Just because people think something exists doesn't mean it does.
Like in that religion thread here in CC where someone linked to the flat earth forums for the people who still think the world is flat...
yes squid, that live in the deep deep ocean where humans have only ventured a few times, and the ocean covers 2/3 of this planet. That is just a little bit different than a 7 foot tall man like creature living in georgia don't you think?? just a tiny little bit different??
and we have found a bunch of dead ones anyway...
I liked the one sceptic that said, look, there might be these forests in Georgia, but you are never more than a few miles from a road really...
Bah, this is probably a hoax. Check this out.
I know there have been some famous documented cases of Bigfoot sightings in Georgia, hell, MonsterQuest even did a show on it; but if there is Sasquatch on this planet, Kleinma is right; I'm betting they'll be found in the north-woods of Canada if at all.
look, bottom line, if it was real, they would have taken a bunch of high res photographs and video. We don't live in the dark ages. They claimed to have found a bunch of still living ones, but didn't snap at least a photograph? I mean it is insulting to me, that they would expect anyone to believe their stories when they provide some blurry photographs of what they claim is basically a cross between ape and man, one of the biggest biological discoveries ever.
If you accomplish something like this, you keep it quiet until you can provide the details with all proof from the start, you don't go on youtube and sell tshirts on your website.... that is what idiots who are trying to rip people off do.
as far as I am concerned, bigfoot does exist, except he walks on all fours.
I would be scared if he was chasing me though...
If it's a hoax that's fine with me. Now that I think about it, I strongly disagree with my own statements from post #26.
When I said "Because they haven't completely evaded detection." That's bologna. I could have said, "Some of the sightings that have been reported could have been genuine." That would have been better. kleinma, I think your logic is pretty good.Quote:
Originally Posted by EntityX
I read the article that you were referring to in which someone said that you're never more than a few miles from a road in the area where Bigfoot was supposed to be found. In that same article it mentions how the guy that circulated a photo about the Loch Ness monster many years ago later admitted it was a fake.
kleinma, I'm afraid I still have to disagree with you on some things. You said bigfoot walks on all fours. I say that he rolls on all fours but anyone is welcome to disagree with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kleinma
I told you so.
Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by EntityX
And over in this corner, EntityX is in a heated debate with.....himself!!! Who will win? Who will lose? Only time will tell. Let the flames begin!
I think we're all having debates within ourselves everyday or at least some of us are. Every time you make a decision does 100% of you feel that it's the best decision. Probably not but don't be afraid to go ahead and make the decision. Even if it's a mistake you learn something from the mistake. What's in my signature is mostly for laughs but there's some truth in it too. If you make lots of mistakes you can learn lots of things.
I saw the British "version" of Bigfoot when I was on holiday in Dorset once. Basically it was a battered white Toyota Hilux with a torn flag on the back and some slightly oversized tyres. It was at a little county fair along with a stuntman with a Harley Davidson and "Dorset's Fattest Dog".Quote:
Originally Posted by kleinma
The truck wouldn't start so they cancelled the show. I never got a refund.
Whats the latest? I heard the DNA tests came back as human and/or opossum (sp?).
Quote:
Originally Posted by EntityX
http://www.starfleet-knights.com/Pictures/tuvok.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuvok - VOY: Unimatrix Zero (Part I)
Hoax or not it still gives all something to talk about. :)
I will point out though that we have some very big kangaroos and crocodiles here but very few people ever get to see one except at the zoo or on tv.
It was actually a bumblebee that wanted a change in it's lifestyle.