Has CC always been called "General Discussion / Chit Chat"? :ehh:
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Has CC always been called "General Discussion / Chit Chat"? :ehh:
It's a recent development.
Administration hasn't provided any reasons for the change of name.
Perhaps they want to make it look more 'professional' to the 'sponsors'.
So does that mean we can no longer say CC? GD/CC?
Its always been named that :D
Didnt anyone read the sticky?
http://vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=427391
And yes the name change should reflect the new improved atmosphere in CC. :)
I ruined it for everyone! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!11one
Should we use the [Not Serious] tag now? :ehh:
No tags should be required at all. If you post a fun non serious topic members should be able to pick the tone of the thread up and continue it. If you post a serioue tone/topic then that should be respected.
ok, u guys blew it!!
We coulda totally had Drew going... "yea, its always been called that? why do u ask??"
;)
I like general dissection / kit-kat.
You almost had me until that point. Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
More helium, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
That explains why Mendhak is talking so funny today.. :afrog:
I'm wearing clothes!
Ok, thats it! Your off topic/hijacking this serious discussion PG so we will have to Ban you now!Quote:
Originally Posted by penagate
See that is how it may be. ;)
Dont worry, no Ban, as we can all have fun in CC as long as its respectful. :)
Whoh, scary! :sick:Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
What's a serious discussion?
Ouch... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
What? Your saying that we allow everyone to do what ever they want and not follow the AUP?Quote:
Originally Posted by vbcode1980
CC is holding VBF back from making a forward progress and gaining respectability.
We all like to relax and have fun but if your not respecting other members then that would be an issue we would have to deal with.
No, I was seriously scared.. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Aiight.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
You guys are over reacting. This forum is not a free for all and doing so will only lead to disicipline. Nothing different then any of the other technical forums.
Ok, we will behave like professionals. That's what we are after all.
Professional.
Idiots.
I think we should ban friendly banter and genial insults in all walks of life. Having a sense of humour is just so disrespectful.
You might as well try to ban drugs and hookers. Its just not practical.
a ban was a bit OTT don't you think rob?
the comment was meant in jest, and i'm sorry you didn't see it that way, but why not just say so? I would have happily apologised and deleted the post.
knee-jerk moderation is also unprofessional.
would you have still banned me if it had been someone else's name instead of yours, penagate's for instance?
Do me! Do me! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bushmobile
I love all the moderators, especially grilkipQuote:
Originally Posted by grilkip
hey! i didn't write that! (must be some new-fangled moderator praise functionality)
Brad is the sexiest of all Administrators.
I did type that. He's a hunk.
We are highly amused.
:rolleyes: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
In my opinion, Chit Chat is one of the key features in making VBF what it is. There are plenty of forums about where you can get good technical answers to your questions but you suspect that the chap answering did the voice samples for Microsoft Sam. Or possibly is Microsoft Sam. One great thing about VBF is that the members here are individuals with proper personalities and everything, even [deleted by moderator].
The fact that we can come onto this forum and get to know each other as people rather than just as faceless automatons is a big factor in building a community such as this, and I suspect is one reason why so many people have hung around here so long. I include myself in this - I was here when RobDog was just a whippersnapper and will probably continue long after he has worn his fingers to the bone with posting.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with having a [Serious] tag to make it clear to all and sundry, drunk or otherwise, that you want a straight answer. Why not add something to the Post Icons list for such incidences? But the fact that there is hardly any thread hijacking out of CC suggests to me that members generally will respect the lines when they know where the lines are; the seriousness of a thread should be made clear (to non-serious and serious posters) in CC as well rather than leaving it up to individual interpretation. Otherwise all it does is create a climate of fear where nobody knows exactly where the line lies and people are as likely to cross it as not.
Of course people will break the rules now and then with the swearing and such like, but very rarely do I see what I would imagine the majority would call offensive posts. And given that offensiveness is so subjective and variable, it could get very easy to become heavy-handed on the basis that a member who joined yesterday was upset by my use of the word "yoghurt", following a nasty scare in the fridge that morning. Gentle nudging by the mods, who are free to edit posts for content anyway, should be more than enough in the vast majority of cases.
I guess the point I'm trying to make in this monologue is that the community spirit that exists within VBF is what lifts it above the rest (and, in my opinion, enhances its respectability), and to sacrifice that for the sake of worrying about the political correctness of some of the posts in instances where it is easily rectified would be a leap backwards in my opinion.
Oh, and that "[deleted by moderator]" above was put in by me. I'm sure nobody would really have wanted to delete the name of visualAd from there.
:)
Well said (probably, I couldn't actually be arsed to read it all to be honest).
Anyway.
Before the admins start whining about advertising in signatures again, I can name more than 40 members on VBF (mostly in the technical forums, which as we all know, never get the slightest attention from the mods) who have advertisements for their own products in their signatures. And I was leaned on by mod staff for having a small unobtrusive link in my sig for one of my projects.
Fair enough I removed it but incomprehensibly these other people are allowed to keep theirs?
And before you ask, no you can't have the list of names, get off your lazy butts and look for yourselves. You can find them easily enough using the forum search tools. They range from "buy my new tool..." to some quite blatant plagiarism.
I just banned Wally Pipp for 2 days because of his "Idiots" comment. On a different subject I have no problem banning anyone posting off-topic stuff in this thread or any other thread. Some may consider that "over the top" but as long as you are given fair warning you shouldn't be surprised if it happens.
Zaza, it would be nice to have all kinds of time going around editing posts in CC but rather then be reactive, its better for everyone if things could be proactive. We have, over a period of time, received PMs complaining. They also state that they will not post in CC anymore as they feel they were bully'ed out as they either were newcomers or regulars just the same.
We have had occasions where a member has been banned repeatly without "learning" what not to do anymore but they just keep doing it. They think its a game to see how many times they can get banned or such. Thats a waste of our time.
Yes i find that over the top, it's not offensive in any way, it simply refers to him acting like a professional idiot, if that's the case then why not let him call himself one?Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinLiss
Sorry, but i've started losing faith in the way VBF is run, CC to me was the one place i could let off steam, and recently i find i can't do that here. Nor any other forum i frequent. The mods/admins seem to be taking things a step too far.
If Wally had said "We're all professional idiots, especially [insert name]" i could see why you would warn him, or maybe a 24hour ban.
Also, Wossy has a fair point, if you're seriously trying to stop advertisement just look in the normal forums. That's all i care to say on that particular matter.
Chit Chat however was the only place people were ever non-serious, and it seems that you frowned on our invention of the Serious tag. Surprisingly many people here, if not all, embraced it. What was wrong with it?
As for CC making this site look unprofessional, what did they expect seriously? It's off-topic and should show threads with nothing to do with the main site, which is exactly what it did. For general discussion about programming etc there is the General Developers Forum. Chit Chat should mean just that, Chit Chat, aka, Idle Chatter.
Oh, and if you warn me on speaking my thoughts then fair do's. I've come to expect it recently.
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Originally Posted by Andrew G
Yeah, I noticed that today. It's really weird. lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
thegreatone, if other forums you visit dont allow certain kinds of posts too then shouldnt that tell you something. ;)
As far as being unprofessional, when there is alot of posts on sexual innuendos, name calling, and generally inappropriate posts then yes, that is unprofessional in any context. Can you talk like that at your place of work? I think not. but you can talk about non-technical subjects just like at work during your lunch time etc. That should be a good guideline of what type of posts to make or not. ;)
First let me say that I know of no instance where anyone was warned for speaking their mind as you have done here. If you know of an instance please send me a PM and I'll look into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreatone
As far as what should be in the new, revised, CC, nobody would mind post races, word associations, clean jokes or cartoons, and many other non-technical topics.
As for the [Serious] business, we are trying to make that unnecessary by encouraging people to stay on subject and not add juvenile comments, etc. In other words we expect the subject of the thread and the thread starter to be respected.
Please feel free to express any disagreement(s) you may have with anything I've said.