VB world's hall of shame

Right this has been going on for long enough and it needs to stop before any half decent people get driven away. I and a few others are completley disgusted with the behavior of certain members at the moment and untill something is done about it this palce is just gonna keep on lowering it's self into the gutter.

First of all there is the on going thing about Martin. martin was made a moderator by john on the account that he has been a long standing member of this forum, is a very helpful man in the other forums and he's got the age (sorry marty) and wisdom to run the site as John wants. all of you that have been writting these post's slagging him off calling him every name under the sun is childish, immature and quite frankly disgusting.

If you don't agree with what they say then go off to other forums where they don't mind you chucking your dummy out of your pram and stamping your feet at every little thing that you don't agree with. I and quite a few other find your tone completley immature and in all honesty if you think your going to get through life like that, then then your not going to get very far socially. you know who you all are and the reason I'm not naming anyone, is that all I will get in return is the usual barrage of abuse that I've come to expect.

The second matter is the constantly ongoing thing about race and religion. In the past when that prat of Nukem was around, a few of you that are still around was in complete and utter arms about him. Yes he needed to go as his attitude was unnaceptable, but the people who where up in arms are now doing it themselves all be it more subetly. people are being driven off this site or getting increasingly pissed off with the way that you can't go into hardly any thread without there being some sort of barrrage going on and don't even considering what they might be doing to other people's feelings.


I am completley ashamed to be a member of this site at the moment and god knows what the new member's think when they see what is going on. Most of us are in a way ambassedor's of our different culture's without even knowing it. If people come into contact with you and they have never been in contact with other people from your culture and your going around slagging off other people's culture's how does that make the person think.

In short then, this needs to stop now and soon before this site goes into complete oblivion as most of us normal people who can abde by rules and differences can't even have a conversation without being intwined with some sort of other crap. Just remember that chit chat is what it is called, a place to discuss and have a bit of fun, not going so far over the top at insulting people and finding it funny.

Your sorefully
Ian
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Katie's left by the looks of it :(

She left because of all the America-trashing going on here...

I might just do the same...

ROTFLMFAO, "I might just have to do the same" have you checked your signature recentley Justin :rolleyes:

im guessin ur not 2 happy with me ian 'ol chap??

ok even thou i think this arguing is stupid, all this peace keeping is stupid also which starts more arguments (no offence Ian)

everyone is just running around in circles chasing their tails... heck even im doing it by posting this, the only way you can stop is to stop and not to try and stop others. and once youve stopped just leave it (damn that counts me out :p)

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Originally posted by Ianpbaker
ROTFLMFAO, "I might just have to do the same" have you checked your signature recentley Justin :rolleyes:

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Nope :p

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Nope :p

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Just the kind of response I expected ................

I have been chatting to katie this evening and she has told me to tell you all that it isn't just the american bashing that has drove her away it's the complete and utter immaturity of member's taht has been completley proven by justin's last post ...........

now I feel guilty

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Just the kind of response I expected ................

I have been chatting to katie this evening and she has told me to tell you all that it isn't just the american bashing that has drove her away it's the complete and utter immaturity of member's taht has been completley proven by justin's last post ...........

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I don't get it Ian. I've never done ANYTHING to you. I never trashed you, or your country, or your friends, or even Post Race.

Why are you so pissed off at me?

Because I'm being immature?

SO what? Aren't we all immature sometimes?

I am missing somethin here :confused:

I have to say I'm with Ian on this one.

SD

Justin, I'm not that pissed off with you, no you haven't done anything to annoy me on the above things and on the whole I haven't got a problem with you (apart from that damn stupid l33t ;) ) but can you not deny that in various parts of your signature that you have called martin various different names which can be classed as derogatary. I've had my view that some of the things that marty has done have been a bt harsh, but if you recal, john himself wrote a post like this a little while ago, stating the same thing and as harry said, we are just guest's on this board that is completley free and if john wants to run this site like he doe's whoa re we to complain ?

I'm with Justin

by judging someone more immature than you, you make the implication that you are more mature and can handle it.

Besides, matureness has nothing to do with offense, ask yourself how can you live with kids.

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Justin, I'm not that pissed off with you, no you haven't done anything to annoy me on the above things and on the whole I haven't got a problem with you (apart from that damn stupid l33t ;) ) but can you not deny that in various parts of your signature that you have called martin various different names which can be classed as derogatary. I've had my view that some of the things that marty has done have been a bt harsh, but if you recal, john himself wrote a post like this a little while ago, stating the same thing and as harry said, we are just guest's on this board that is completley free and if john wants to run this site like he doe's whoa re we to complain ?

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I just don't like martin but I should keep that to myself :eek: :p

Sorry Ian

Holy crap, someone remembers one of my old posts =)

I'm with Ian too. I know this might sound stupid considering I'm not exactly of advanced age (20), but this place has so totally changed in the last 2 years... the major change being about 6 months ago. A year or so ago most people stuck to the point, had some rational debates and kept the personal attacks out of it, with very few exceptions. In the last 6 months this place seems to have been taken over by kids. Even the sensible threads get trashed because of these kids who know sweet FA about how the world works but have an enormous amount of opinions about it anyway.

This recent Liss-bashing (oo-err) is just a manifestation of this state of affairs. What the hell is the point in bitching and whining about people getting warned because they used profane language in their posts? They didn't even get banned, just warned. The site rules clearly state that such language isn't allowed, although they get bent a lot by many people, myself included. What is the moaning and stamping of little feet really going to achieve? It's pointless sh**-stirring. Just STFU and put up with what is basically a pretty good situation, or kindly piss off.

In response to Justin's "is it because I'm being immature?" question (a paraphrase), yes that's exactly what pisses me off. We are all immature sometimes but very few of us are immature all the time.

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In response to Justin's "is it because I'm being immature?" question (a paraphrase), yes that's exactly what pisses me off. We are all immature sometimes but very few of us are immature all the time.

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No comment as I don't see your point. I guess sticking up for your country is immature isn't it. :confused:

I have to say, this is partly a pointless argument, immatureness is quite meaningless concept
Either you are pissed off because you get offended, or you are pissed off because people don't think like you do. Immatureness is included in the second.

I don't like patriotism or nationalism :(

I don't think there's anything wrong with being patriotic, in fact I think it's important to be proud of where you come form, but it can be taken too far and that's not a good thing

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Originally posted by Pix
Sorry Ian

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what did Pix do?

You're nice and innocent

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I don't like patriotism or nationalism :(

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Im kind of getting sick of all these flags. Anyone see doonesbury sunday? http://www.vbforums.com/images/ieimages/2002/02/4.gif

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No comment as I don't see your point. I guess sticking up for your country is immature isn't it. :confused:

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That depends on why you're sticking up for it. If you're doing it because you have all the facts and agree with your country's official cource of action then that's fine, so long as you can make a rational point. If you're just sticking up for it because you don't want to feel bad about anything your country does, then yes that is immature, or at least irrational.

Just because it's your country doesn't make it perfect. Unfortunately you're too busy calling people 'anti-American Euro-trash' to actually think outside the box.

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Originally posted by chrisjk
what did Pix do?

You're nice and innocent

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Yeah but I can also be immature at times

Whinging pom!!!
:p ;)
j/king

Ian off the sherry mate you'll have a sore head tommorrow!:p

So katie left?
yes/no?

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Originally posted by Beacon
Whinging pom!!!
:p ;)
j/king

Ian off the sherry mate you'll have a sore head tommorrow!:p

So katie left?
yes/no?

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Yeah, that seems to be it. I've emailed her and told her about filb's new forum since it's a lot like ProMasc...

she was here this morning

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Originally posted by Pix
Yeah but I can also be immature at times

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not like what Ian is talking about.

You're fun :)

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Originally posted by chrisjk
not like what Ian is talking about.

You're fun :)

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Thanks :)

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Originally posted by HarryW
Unfortunately you're too busy calling people 'anti-American Euro-trash' to actually think outside the box.

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I think I just found a new slogan.

:D

The search continues...

As seen strictly from my point of view, mind you, (since I'm still upset
enough to not be able to see it from theirs), two people in particular launched a personal attack against me. It wasn't in the spirit of joking or banter. It was meant to upset me. Checkout some signatures and locations if you doubt this. Then they rejoiced that they had achieved
their goals. It seems a constant thread that if you are American you are
not even worth listening to because you're obviously stupid. It is
constant. There is no way of just ignoring it because it's in every thread.
I even stated that I don't agree with a lot of our foriegn policy and I know
our president's a boob and I still get it from all sides. I'm just sick of
it. There is not one thread that I posted yesterday with the exception of
the golden chair that I was not immediately jumped upon. It's not worth it.
There are a lot of good people in VBF, yes. But I can't converse with them
without being harrassed by the people who aren't good.

As far as I can see, the people who are not so good in VBF are very unworthy
ambassadors of their point of view because all I can see is evil, hatred and
intolerance.....not exactly what the Islam religion is purported to be
about. Since my only education in their religion has been through them, I
have been left with a very bad tasting bigotted mindset towards certain members of the forum....not very nice but true.

That coupled with the immaturity of certain responses when it should have been just a dialog has led me to this decision. I don't know what happened to discussions without vitriol or ribbing without underlying sniping but it has left the forum....and so have I.

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Thanks :)

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:)

thanks for the card BTW :cool:

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Originally posted by chrisjk
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thanks for the card BTW :cool:

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Yay you got it then :)

yep :)

We're making the only smilies in this thread...

well what can i say

nuffin really coz an apology would be a bit hollow and meaningless

just to let u know it wasnt a personal attack...despite what it may come across as

and as for the sig thing...i thinks its funny...not because of the subject matter...but just the response

and where is evil, hatred and intolerance...i keep pointing out i like america..and i never start arguments and only enter into them when i feel my opinion should be expressed, but whatever

anyways...l8r days

Get a room you's 2!;)

Katie:
Hope it wasnt me i aint bagged an american for ages?
Dont let a few ruin your fun katie if it werent for a few would you stay? I think you would.

How many kids are there on VBF?

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yep :)

We're making the only smilies in this thread...

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we'll see about that!!!

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

Yay, we should turn the thread into a nice happy smiley thread

:):):):):):):):)

Beacon, it was not you. I don't mind a little good natured bagging on America....I do it myself. It's when it becomes a personal attack the I feel was unprovoked that it becomes intolerable.

If the venom (on both sides) was toned down, I would stay, but it has not and I don't see much hope that it will.

Gotta go do that Valentine thing with my husband and kiddlets. I hope all of you have good futures.

For the last time....


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