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I tried to think of a pun with Billy Ray... but it didnt work
Good thing, FD might have given you a Ray ban....which would have been a shade over the top.
Great choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUvu1mlWco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU
After that I turned the snake into a belt heh heh.
Don't keep us hanging Shaggy tell us what the phrase is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
No French kissing in the USA?Quote:
Originally Posted by dday9
A kiss is not a kiss without the tongue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witis
To tell you the truth, I have forgotten. However, I know I have it written down somewhere....in binary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witis
My father helped me do the rock work. He's an old DEC engineer, so he was reading in octal, while I was reading in hex. Kind of funny, that.
I still have the program that I wrote to design the yard, in case anybody wants to do something nutty like that. You set up the number of rows and columns you have to work with, if you know, then type in a string, and it shows some rough...and inaccurate...appearance of how it will look, as well as telling you the total number of each color brick needed, a count of the bricks, and a count of the characters. With a bit of measuring, you can know the maximum phrase length possible. In my case, I had something like 80 characters to work with, and kept tinkering with phrases until I got to something like 79. The remainder was a set of red bricks that are largely buried under raised beds.
Coat my goat.
How embarrassing. :-\ Also why the red bricks for the unused eighth bit instead of a zero, seems like pseudo binary to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Random act of kindness?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonker Gudd
I had some emulsion left over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witis
Btw bonker, the link in your signature is broken.
dday9. I blocked your bug gif. I didnt like it.
I vote dclamp to become a super moberator.
Thank you. Here is your sticker.Quote:
Originally Posted by dday9
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I had them. The other reason is that a two bit binary pattern is very hard to read. When written out, as in your posts, there is a clear left to right pattern to the bits. In the case of a 2D arrangement, a person could be forgiven to not finding any meaning at all. The pattern would look random, and any attempt to turn them into ASCII would work only if the person happened to start on a byte boundary and read in the right direction. That takes a whole lot of chance. I wouldn't expect anybody to figure out that there was a binary pattern, as it would appear random, and would read random in most directions, but by making every eigth bit red I left a clue as to how to read the pattern. A person might notice that the arrangement isn't truly random, and if they do, they'd also notice that the non-random part is a regularly repeating pattern of 8, which would suggest ASCII binary to any computer geek of the last couple decades. The pattern is an easter egg, but one with a hint built in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witis
I guess you do have a point regarding the visibility of any binary pattern, 01000010-01101001-01101110-01100001-01110010-01111001 is easier to read than 010000100110100101101110011000010111001001111001, however, using 3 colours and seven bits doesn't make it an intuitively or obviously binary pattern. Is there a picture of the finished result so that we can see it now that we know what to look for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Also how's the memory today?
I could look up the phrase, but it's on a different computer in a different building, so I can't look it up today.
There isn't a picture of the complete thing. The picture I showed was taken from the roof after the brickwork was finished, there is a second picture that overlaps the first and covers the remainder of the message. However, the start of the message is in the picture I posted, and neither of the pictues is really all that good. The lighting wasn't excellent, nor was the position for the picture.
There couldn't be a picture today. The smaller squares on the left side are where the posts for a pergola were located. That pergola is heavily covered by honeysuckle, hops, and a couple other climbing vines, which means that any picture taken from the same vantage point would show a bed of green with occasional rafters showing through. The bricks along that side would be covered. There is also a raised garden in the center with a Japanese maple in it, which would further break up the picture. I knew all those were going in, which is why I took the picture when I did. There is currently no vantage point that would show more than a few bytes of the pattern, and it would take several pictures to capture the whole message anymore.
I also see that there are some extra red bricks in the upper left corner of that picture, which are now covered by a raised bed, but would throw off the pattern in the picture. The lighting is due to the shadows on a sunny day. However, since the place is a desert, had I waited to take the picture on an overcast day, I would have made no progress for nearly a year. Overcast days are rare during the summer.
I was about to ask about those, they seem to completely obstruct any binary encoded Ascii characters. Does tan = zero or one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
There's no way I'm going to answer that question...except, now that I think about it, I can answer it literally with a Yes.
I'm not sure why I decided to use red as a filler brick. It may be because it didn't have any other meaning, so it is the only color I really COULD use. Aftwer all, the code does include the rule red=ignore, so using red as a filler is fine. Still, there must have been some reason why I opted for the red bricks there. They were due to be covered, and may even have been removed (I'd have to go out and look), since the end posts of the pergola would be in that area, along with a raised bed.
Yes tan = 0 or yes tan = 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
I'm not that convinced Shaggy, what about using a gap or a half tile instead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Yeah it kinds ruins the whole binary backyard thing, I'd check to see if the red tiles are still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
So where does the number 2 come into play?
So did I and now I can't get the typex off my monitor:mad:Quote:
dday9. I blocked your bug gif. I didnt like it
Had to google Typex... AKA Whiteout...
I was wondering too.Quote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
A white out's what happens if I run into a wall really fast.
And black out is when you drink too much
And grey out is when you go red.
And you don't want a blue out when traveling at high speeds.
Nah, greyouts can happen when you are pulling some serious positive Gs, redouts when you try for too many negative Gs.Quote:
Originally Posted by dday9
Half tiles are seriously difficult for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is cutting them (you can't buy them).Quote:
Originally Posted by Witis
If they are there, as I suspect they are, they form the foundation for the wall of the raised bed that is back there, so they are covered under gray blocks...of a sort....I really don't know whether there is a name for that shape.Quote:
Yeah it kinds ruins the whole binary backyard thing, I'd check to see if the red tiles are still there.
Such a small amount of trouble in order to preserve binary purity. ☹Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
You mean the error you built into your binary backyard is still there? °o°Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Wow. I've been at work for 15 minutes and it's already been one of those days....
Ugh. Thats how my shift was last night. Longest 12 hours shift of my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by dday9
On a positive note, I am moving from P&C insurance to supplemental insurance in the next 30 days. Bigger commission with less hours.
That is positive. Congrats you insurance sales man you.
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I knew I should've bought that volcano insurance, just like my need for that earthquake insurance.
I should let my flood insurance go though, it never floods in South Louisiana.
Amen to that sister.Quote:
Originally Posted by dday9
Volcanoes though... That's a serious threat. I mean, aren't we overdue for one?
Do you sell meteor insurance too?
Only if you live south of Grand Isle.
Not so small an amount of trouble. To do a good job with the cutting would have required a special saw, so there would be a fair expense. I did try a bit of cutting with cold chisel, and had mixed results. The lines weren't clean enough to work with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witis
There is no error. You simply ignore all red blocks and all is well. Binary doesn't carry any inherent meaning. We impose meaning on it when we turn a binary signal into 1s and 0s, then we impose further meaning on it when we interpret some set of binary digits to mean some kind of letter. Had I used some encoding other than ASCII, or some encoding other than 7 bits to a letter, you'd be sorely pressed to figure any of it out. Only by relying on a rigorous convention does the pattern hold any meaning. After all, since I needed less than 32 characters, I could have made my own 6 bit encoding to write the message, but then nobody would be able to figure it out without putting a lot of effort into it. It might not have contained enough information to be able to figure out every symbol, had I done it that way.Quote:
You mean the error you built into your binary backyard is still there? °o°
So, I have imposed a convention that makes it readable. There is nothing pure or impure about it. It is what it is, and that is complete. By saying that it is ASCII, and by saying that the red bits are fill, I give you the tools to interpret the binary into text. Had I not given that information, it could have been inferred with some difficulty. The rules are as much a part of the pattern as the bits themselves. However, it is all just binary, with no right or wrong other than that which we impose upon it.
Shaggy and Witis would be interested in Binary insurance. To protects against intrusions from other numbers.
This post brought to you by the number 3.
AwkwardQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
I know, I was hoping number 2 would step up. I guess not :/
Number 2 is stepping up. I just didn't think you'd want me to share that.
Whahaha! Took me a second to register that!
It ain't over until the paperwork is finished.
It seems I'll always be more of a binary purist than you, but ok with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
You can't tell me to simply ignore the error and all is well. According to that logic you could sell a house demolished by a sinkhole at full market price, just ignore the damage to the house and land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
I think the classic would have been an 8 bit binary pattern rather than 6 or 7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Although the obvious problem is that using 3 colours immediately makes me think of anything except a binary pattern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
I sure would.Quote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
Don't worry, all is well.
http://championfoundation.com/wp-con...y-Sinkhole.jpg
See, that's an issue that we're having right now. Homeowners insurance doesn't cover for earth movement, aka - sinkholes. We had a huge sinkhole in Raceland last year that damaged some homes. I'm glad I wasn't the guy who had to say that it wasn't covered.
By the way Witis, you have the water table to low in that first picture. It should be about a foot to two feet below the surface.
No, only one form of binary purist, which makes you more of a binary bigot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witis
There isn't any error. There is only a rule that is applied when translating the code into text. That translation is a human activity. The code itself is what it is, only we give it meaning. As long as the rules are consistent, we can retrieve from it whatever meaning was put into it. If the rules are not consistent, then anybody extracting meaning will not necessarily extract the same meaning as the person who created the code. That would be called art.Quote:
You can't tell me to simply ignore the error and all is well. According to that logic you could sell a house demolished by a sinkhole at full market price, just ignore the damage to the house and land.
Only in certain systems and under certain designs. 8 bits does seem like a reasonable number, being a power of 2 and all, but it isn't the only pattern that has been used in computers. 7 and 9 bit byte systems also exist. I haven't head of a 6 bit byte system, but it could easily exist.Quote:
I think the classic would have been an 8 bit binary pattern rather than 6 or 7.
Anything at all? I'd be morbidly curious as to what it made you think of?Quote:
Although the obvious problem is that using 3 colours immediately makes me think of anything except a binary pattern.