Yeah, I learned that one. One of the big mistakes is to use hammer ons and pull offs like Angus does in the video. You need to pick it or you can't get the sharp sound right.
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Yeah, I learned that one. One of the big mistakes is to use hammer ons and pull offs like Angus does in the video. You need to pick it or you can't get the sharp sound right.
Actually I was referring to Mal but , yeah you are correct.
Oh, I've never tried to learn Malcolms part. Should have done really. He was always the unsung star (wrote most of the songs).
I remember music class in elementary school, where seasonally we'd get German, French, Spanish, Dutch, Swahili, etc. songs to learn related to festival times and holidays.
https://youtu.be/bhMNJySog7A
We almost always learned them in both English and the original language, though the latter was mostly by rote with... clumsy results.
Do kids today get any of that exposure, or at least pre-lockdown?
I can speak for Greece.
A kid listen to this may result in ridicule. I know it's annoying but that is the truth.
IF this is a classroom lesson, maybe but I would much prefer classical music than this type.
And to be honest I don't think nowadays a kid everywhere in the world would listen to this at it's own accord, probably not even in Germany.
Young enough kids sing darn near anything. It's only when they get older that they start being embarrassed by...well, by anything.
Hey @sapator, what are some of your favourite Greek songs/bands? I'm woefully ignorant on Greek music even though I live a few blocks away from the official "Greek Town" of my city. "Yanni Liv at the Acropolis" got huge here many years ago, but it wasn't really my cup of ouzo. Other than that, I can only think of the Bouzouki music scene from Monty Python's cheese shop sketch. Can you be so kind as to post your favourite Greek tunes for us to enjoy?
This is the only one that comes to mind, but it's an instrumental.
https://youtu.be/dzlcxN0lxSo
Next door's Turkish music reflects the economic reality of the country, seriously though, I like a bit of Turkish goth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy2x_kHCy4w
Fortunately or unfortunately I only even listened to 2 people - bands from Greece. Yannis Miliokas and Lukianos Kilaidonis and some sporadic songs + some of old Greek rebetes . I detest bouzouki except 2-3 songs, it's like a fly passing by you all the time going vzzz vzzzzz.Quote:
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Also my music taste is 95% metal but...But, I had no problems going to clubs listening to beats etc and I say had because now, I would probably have issues, if I go, that I try hard not to.
So yeah, I'm the wrong person to ask but you have to go back a few decades to finds something descent as todays Greek music is a piece of crap.
Ah, so you like brass bands. A bit of Sousa, perhaps?Quote:
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used too many words ... removed the extraneous one...Quote:
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-tg
Well, some folks might miss the point of this, but wouldn't that be putting it down either way?Quote:
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My computer is doing something stupid lately where there's no sound until I reboot, but I haven't had the time to figure it out (and I can't reboot right now because I'm in the middle of a compile). But I will listen to @dil and @ber's posts tomorrow.
I'll check them out tomorrow too - I'malways looking for something new.Quote:
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[QUOTE=sapator;5588250]some of old Greek rebetes{/qupte]
I did a quick search of "rebetes" and does that mean "numbers" in the musical sense? If so, I'd love to be introduced to the old Greek "numbers" that you like if you care to share them.
LOL! I haven'theard enough bouzouki to hate it, and part of me kinda likes it (probably because I hear it at a restaurant when I'm in a "certain mood"), but I'd actually like to know what those 2/3 songs are that you like (again if you don't mind sharing).Quote:
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My musical taste is probably about 5% metal, but I try to listen to as much music as I can so here 's a challenge: If you wanted to theoretically convert someone who is a 5% metal liker to a greater than 5% metal liker, what song would you choose? To help your task, the "someone" was born in the mid-1970s in North America.Quote:
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The popular stuff around here is crap too, but there's some good underground/indie stuff - is there really no good new Greek music?!Quote:
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So you are open minded. I tried hard to be but the latest crap closed my mind again, lol.
Ye rebetes are not "numbers" they are people that made music in old Greek joints with a low profile and at a certain period in time their music came out and copied.
I can't recall the song names, just tunes but one I do recall is this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjOIRYSawgA (this waring is not for you so don't worry) , warning it may or may not contain profanity, click at your own risk!
I don't wish to convert anyone to metal, it's hard music to digest so I would probably instruct you to early Judas Priest (pre 82) and some more hard rock like so it does not scare you right from the top. So the bible is Back in Black of course.
Btw I haven't heard any real good Greek music for ages. There might be some underground stuff but all I can hear lately is trap music stuff and the usual 1 note 1 rhythm dance stuff.
Again, I WAS open minded but not anymore. I'm trying to gather around my own band and play my own stuff so I'm more focused on that rather than experiment with new Greek music.
P.S. What the heck is Sousa? Keyser Soze with a different accent?
First off: Metal is not Rock is not Metal.Quote:
Originally Posted by jpbro
Confusing? Yes.
Problem: The Definition of "Metal" has changed through time.
e.g. --> A lot of people think Motörhead "Heavy Metal".
The thing is: Lemmy (RIP) always described Motörhead as a Rock'N Roll Band, and introduced it that way at each concert.
(Motörhead being one of the rare Bands never using an Intro).
"Hello [INSERT NAME OF CITY/COUNTRY], We are Motörhead, and we play Rock'N Roll. 1..2..3..4.."
Next Problem: Expose you directly to the "hard" stuff (and hope for the best), or "easing" you into it?
For me personally it was the first. In late 1986 my cousin introduced me to "Wasted Years" by Iron Maiden, and in that moment i was a goner.
OTOH, i heard from other people being "eased" into it.
Bottom Line: either way you get introduced to it, you have to want to explore it open minded ("Oh, i like this..... nahh, not really")
That said: I'd never suggest "Cannibal Corpse" or "Boltthrower" to someone who "Hey, I don't listen to Heavy Metal. Got any recommendation for me?" :):)
As for you: You being Canadian, i'd suggest "Rush" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_(band)), if you don't already know it
Just for you to get an idea about different styles:
My personal favorites are:
Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, early Metallica, WASP, Saxon, Queensryche, Mötley Crüe, AC/DC, Motörhead, Accept, Black Sabbath, Ozzy Osbourne, Nightwish, Within Temptation, early Helloween, Metal Church, Rush
But i also like specific songs from other genres (Hip Hop, Reggea, Pop, House, Dancepop etc.) but there only specific songs, not the genre by itself.
I mean "Jimmy Cliffs - I can see clearly now" is still an evergreen....
Yeah, except Motorhead where (I can't believe I'm writing "where") not R'N'R . They might have said that but it was Hard Rock at least (if somewone where on 1 of their gigs would understand ). Same goes with other bands like AC/DC , they said R'N'R and later they would sometimes say R'N'R with anabolics but in reality most of the older ones where a mixture of hard rock and heavy blues.
What we call metal has expanded a lot from the beginning, aka Sabbath and have taken different genres like Thrash,New wave,Speed,Melodic,Death,Power etc .
Of course I won't have an issue when someone says Motorhead are R'N'R but what pisses me of is when pop bands would proclaim themself as Rock just because they use a guitar. You are pop, get over it!
Anyhow some of my favorites are:
AC/DC,Judas Priest,Motor,Manowar,Helloween,Accept,Running Wild,Saxon,Iron Maiden,Raven,Annihilator,Grave Digger etc Also some Prodigy tunes ain't bad, if I have to go beyond metal-HR or some stones.
Well, the reason i started to listen to "other" music (and actually liking the odd song, i mean.... come on... 2PAC's "California Love" is a brilliant song),
and let me tell you, that I've been called a "traitor to the cause" more than once because of it, is, well.....
.... i found out the hard way, that it's next to impossible to flirt with a pretty girl (especially ones who don't like Hard'N Heavy) while headbanging your brain out through your ears....
:bigyello::wave::p:cool:
The Sousa reference was a joke. I felt you might not get it, as it's a particular type of music that may be pretty much unique to a very narrow time in the US.
John Philip Sousa wrote a series of the better known marching band music back around the turn of the last century. Being marches, it's usually played with a lot of brass instruments (heavy metal), including the Sousaphone, which is a variation on the tuba used for marching, as it wraps around the musician and allows them to better balance and carry a heavy instrument.
So, in short: Watch a College-Football-Game, and you'll see/hear "Sousa"-Music? :DQuote:
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OH, there is no problem with girls, you will never pass me as a metal type and I never brought a discussion about heavy music when there was no interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zvoni
What was my tradeoff was going to regular clubs but music does not really matter there, so I don't live the "metal way" sort to speak...Until I get to the studio... :cool:
Also calling traitor and such must have been in the beginning when there was punk and rockers. I guess, because I haven't lived that. No one will call a metal head that also listen to 2PAC a traitor these days. At least in Greece.
OH, I got the joke and made a counter joke. You did not put a smiley emoji so I did not put a counter smiley emoji.Quote:
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Don't expect to be treated differently than you treat people........ :afrog:
I'll listen to almost any genre ... there's some jazz that I like... some rap (mostly old school stuff -- 2Pac's California Love is one of my favorites) rock, hard rock, metal, death, soundtracks... I'm all over the place. Pandora & Spotify have given up trying to recommend things to me.
Most of the time I'm just looking for something that I can work to and enjoy. Depends on my exact mood. Right now I need something bouncy... so I might put on the rap play list - I find rap is good for hooks and consistent tempos which are good at keeping me going.
-tg
Recently......
Me: "Alexa, play 'Last Christmas' by Wham"
Alexa: "Okay, i'm playing 'Last.... ?!?!? THE HELL I WILL!"
Songs can have a "bouncy" beat but a very different tone overall.
They can also have an completely unrelated story told in the official video:
https://youtu.be/fV4DiAyExN0
This is really a salt-water tune but it has always been pretty popular here on the Great Lakes, especially in the old merchant marine towns.
https://youtu.be/CtxmgBYlrTs
As far as I can tell this song was recorded about 6 times. Most jukeboxes carry the original, though this rendition is pretty close to it.
Sorry guys, I'm in the middle of some nuclear idiocy here at work, but I will try to get back and respond as soon as I can. I appreciate all the responses and I hope to give them my full attention!!
Some of the cast members in this music video are famous for other things:
https://youtu.be/r9QKHoRbf3M
Hah, good one! Great move , underestimated tho.
Since we are on the topic, I can't understand how some people say that they hear all kind of music (sorry tech that was not for you in particular) . I mean how can you go from simple lounge tunes to metal? I think that kind of spread show either extreme tolerance or non understanding-absorbance of music. Also almost every person that says that hears all kind of music will put the fingers on the ear holes, turn to embryo position, drop on the floor and start crying like a little girl when they get hit with Painkiller. :D
Let's give it a try:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM__lPTWThU
How I do it depends:
1) I hit shuffle on everything I own and let the randomness handle it. I'll go from Bach and Mozart to Bauhaus to Def Leppard to Pink Floyd to the Kinks, to Mozart again, to Ramstein.
2) I listen to specific genres in batches. Some times I'll put on the 80', other times it's soundtracks, other times it's old school rap... just depends.
-tg
Yes but those are not "every specter". I was talking of "I listen to eeeveryting" people.
I'm the first to admit that I DON'T listen to everything as 90% is crap. Also, as you mentioned it, Jazz is like the assembly language of music, extremely hard to grasp and boring as hell but to the right people is a machine of learning. I personally am bored to death listening to it, playing...Mhhh maybe a little,long time ago,as I have a Berklee degree in Jazz (you need that to learn EVERYTHING else) but again, boring as hell.
It's in the right spirit though. So let's let's not ghost him for a simple slip.Quote:
Yes but those are not "every specter".
I truly had no intention, it was not directed to him at all.
P.S. Hamsters defending dogs? WTH is going on here?!! :p
My recently played songs (sorry for no Youtube embeds, these are local files and I didn't want to track down a url for all of them). Genre is a bit all over the place, but I hope someone else appreciates some of these songs.
Live - Lightning Crashes
Cloud Cult - Days to Remember
Billy Joel - These Are The Times To Remember
My Morning Jacket - I'm Amazed
Cass Elliot - Make Your Own Kind Of Music
Boney M. - Rasputin
Passenger - Simple Song
The Black Crowes - She Talks To Angels
George Harrison - What Is Life
David Foster - Love Theme from St. Elmo's Fire
The Decemberists - Sons & Daughters
The Flys - Got You Where I Want You
Warning, a bit rough not too safe for work:
https://youtu.be/nQLJNCDa4GA
"Clair de Lune" by Claude Debussy