Difficult question, can't answer now.Quote:
Originally Posted by baka
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Difficult question, can't answer now.Quote:
Originally Posted by baka
Well, the video is worth watching.
It is a bit pain to watch because the guy stutters (actually both of them do it a bit).
But the information is very enlightening.
We are talking about this virus all the time, but I came to the conclusion that this virus is just a tool on their plan, nothing else. The problem is much bigger.
We saw in the last two years the first step to a totalitarian system.
This is only the first step of their plan. The goal is a totalitarian global "management" (I'm not sure whether to call it "government").
No surprise that Bill Gates and others were already announcing that will be other pandemics and other threats.
Of course, it is not because they are prophets, it is because they are announcing what they are planning to do.
Moving is giving up.
Of course giving up is an option if things get ugly, I totally respect that.
The problem is that people are willing not to give up and fight but they don't know how to.
The have voted for corrupted people. They don't know who is corrupted or not, media fuss their minds.
It's difficult to make a right choice with all these things happening around, you may trust someone, a channel, a spotifyier only to find out that they are on the take also.
So I don't have an answer other that search search search if you have the time for it and decide.
Vaccines search was easy, they practically did not hide well so everyone knows by now that the where for the big bucks, sure they also made questionable vaccines in the process.
I would imagine than if Omicron was actually more lethal and with medical reports coming out showing a negative immunity on vaccines, vaxbies would have srit their pants but they got lucky and they play it cool now. Well luck does not always substitute decisions. Sometimes it does but sometimes really does not. Also lucky is what the aftereffects of the experimental vaccines would be. You played the dice let's see what it will bring up.
I tried once and I barely got away with my life...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Not being able to do so does not automatically mean that it is not possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
I would suggest another go at it :bigyello:
well, its not "move" because I don't like the situation right now.
its "move" when they are about to take your stuff and force you to resettle to another location and force you to do what they think are "right" for you depending on a "social-scoring-system" that of course is manipulated.
I own nothing, and I need to comply. if I don't take the vaccine they remove my "benefit" and I get transferred to a much worse location, or even worse, they force it on me, since I don't have rights anymore.
this:
"No. We are living in a democracy. We have the protection of the police. Nobody's going to hurt us."
right now we are here, people believe in the system.
but if this gets worse and worse and worse, there will be a moment in time when theres no more choice to move, you can't anymore.
right now they are changing the covid-certificate so its only valid if you have taken 3 shots.
so, for all the unvaccinated it means u need to take 1, 2, 3 before you can get it.
and if they increase to 4, it takes even longer before you get this certificate that allows you to move out of the country.
I need to get it from the black market. that the police is trying to crack everywhere. so soon theres no option for that as well.
so, only the vaccinated can move, all others are stuck. soon we need to dig a tunnel to escape.
of course this is the worse case scenario.
but remember the world economic forum wants this to happen, a perfect world where everybody are happy without owning anything.
That's what the hypnotized bears are for. To dig the tunnels.
Frequent Boosters Spur Warning on Immune Response.
Nothing new, just saying https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ystem-ema-says
Also hope this is not true but I just glimpsed it https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/09/uk...eveloping-ade/
well we can not be sure, the site its labeled as fake: (dailyexpose)
https://www.logically.ai/articles/ac...e-daily-expose
the question is. why?
why would there be so much fake, and for what reason?
to sell some paper? to get donations? clicks?
we know people want money. everything is about that. at least for the majority of people.
to create a site just to spread misinformation, why? to tell people, do not take the vaccine.
ok, lets say we are fooled. but I already got covid, it was like a normal flu.
so its not that if I don't take the vaccine I will die.
sure I will not follow the masses, but it will not do much harm, since we know how a corona virus spread.
vaccinated are already spreading it around, so its not that its our fault.
that means, theres no logic to if everything is fake except maybe they want me to donate for their site. money.
or theres fake-sites created to confuse people. if theres so much fake out there, everything most be fake, making people almost immune against any information outside the narrative.
Yeah I do sincerely hope it's fake.
As much as I find it "insert your swear word here" to vaccinate with the 3rd dose if you are healthy and not in a dangerous category, I also have people close to me that did that so I don't want to see them get hurt.
But, I have heard that one of the vaccine reactions is the ability to hypnotize bears. I would suggest the following:
So you get close to the bear, right?
And you pull out the hypno equipment, an old clock or the other slip slap medallion and such.
Now you don't want to alarm the bear so you need to get sprayed with honey, this will keep the bear calm.
And now you start saying the "vaxgic" words. "Bear be, bear see, be my hypno bear to be" .
Anyone tried it let me know how it went.
maybe theres a bit of "truth" behind a fake news.
by telling the population that something happened, spreading it around
and later you create a its fake-campaign against it,
you will add a "mistrust" inside peoples mind about that "something".
so if in the future something like this would happen, maybe a real doctor would tell a story,
people will consider it "yeah right, another fake news"
I believe in something else.
listening to Dr. Reiner Fuellmich (u can find the interview here: https://zeeemedia.com/interviews/)
he says that not all batches are "contaminated". that means, if you are unlucky you get that "bad" batch that will cause damage.
but most of the time its a "good" batch.
the reason they do this, is to control the narrative, create outburst of death/sickness in a region for their own agenda, maybe scare tactics.
so maybe that "fake news" theres a bit of truth, if we gonna believe Dr. Reiner Fuellmich.
"We have not yet heard any one reporting it not working, so we assume it works great and is save and effective!"Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
I wonder if the bear jew falls into the bear category...
Wow, this thread gets weirder and weirder. People arguing both sides are starting to remind me of that Jack Elam character, the Crazy Old Coot in hat and moustache in an episode of The Twilight Zone:
https://youtu.be/6Wi84eQLuTE
"Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up"
I gave up trying to follow it over Christmas and really can't be bothered to wade through it again to catch up. A quick skim told me that a load of commercially motivated media organizations conspired with governments from around the world to murder their consumer base in massive numbers. It had something to do with the rising cost of social care.Quote:
this thread gets weirder and weirder
Nope. I was honestly curious. I can tell you what my answer is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niya
In the US, there was a brief period of lockdown in early 2020. That had no negative impact on me, because it wasn't real. There are countries that enforced strict lockdowns, used the police to enforce them, etc. That wasn't the case in the US in general, and was even less the case where I live. For me, lockdown just meant that I didn't have to commute quite as often. That was literally the ONLY impact it had. There WOULD have been an impact if I was short on toilet paper, because there was a run on toilet paper such that stores were totally empty. However, by pure chance, I had bought a bunch not long before COVID showed up, so I knew I didn't need any for several months, without even dipping into my backpacking supply.
Following that brief lockdown, there was a much longer phase during with masks were more or less required to be worn in most stores. Not all, and enforcement was spotty, but it happened. That isn't much of a burden. Those same stores require people to wear shirts and shoes, so a mask was just a further article of clothing. Since I have a beard, it looked silly (for some reason, masks cause beards to jut forwards rather comically) and was most likely cosmetic.
After a few months of that, all stores dropped mask requirements. By the time I went on a long bike ride, last summer, I carried a mask with me, since I didn't know what local conventions would be in place, but that was about it. Sometime around then, my employer went back to mandatory masks in the office after having dropped them for several months. They also have something of a dress code that is occasionally quite strict, so, once again, this was just another article of clothing in a place that already had plenty of rules on that.
That was the extent of the impact: Occasionally, I had to wear a mask, but only in places that had always been requiring certain attire for decades.
So I sold no freedom and gained no security.
What about you?
We deal with bears occasionally. After all, I spend some time walking up streams looking for salmon carcasses...and so do bears, though for different reasons. I wouldn't eat the stinky, maggot infested, carcasses, but bears aren't so picky. Come to think of it, people don't expect ME to be that picky, either, but I am...really. I wouldn't eat a rotting carcass. I don't think even Norwegians would eat them, and they (or some country up there) has a notorious dish involving rotting fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
Anyways, we are scanning the carcasses for a particular RFID tag. I always tell new people that they need to scan any bears that they encounter. To date, nobody has believed me. I even tell them that if they tickle the feet of the bear it will let you scan it, but they don't believe that, either.
So, I don't believe you about hypnotized bears, either.
Fine be me.
I think your just lazy to try to hypno one up (remember the hypno words are really important).
That's a good point. I'm well aware that my career insulated me from the impacts of COVID. The US insulated a whole lot of citizens, as well. We may have had the most generous COVID financial support program of any country in the world (I don't know of any that came even close, but there may be some). That's kind of strange, really, because the US isn't known for being all that generous. Some folks attributed it to the financial crisis of 2008 (or thereabouts). The thinking was that the impact of that recession was made more severe and prolonged by the inadequate, misguided, response. The same people who had made those mistakes were still around (or were back) for COVID, and they learned from their mistakes. In 2008, the response was meager and brief. In 2020, the response was perhaps TOO supportive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niya
I'm not lazy, I'm just out of shape. The darn bears always run away, and I can't keep up with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
Yeah, the current rules and levels of observance seem pretty spotty by where you live, work, etc.
I went out last week to pick up a pizza as a rare treat. Foolishly I chose dinner hours on a Friday, so I arrived to find about 8 others waiting inside for their orders in a fairly confined space. All of them wore masks, as I did. About 10 degrees F outside, so only one person stood outside to wait.
Masks can only do so much, however in a group of conscientious folks your odds of safety improve by an order of magnitude anyway. They are less likely to be carrying the crud and more likely to stay home if they were.
People are weird.
It looks like there is a new fad "gumless gum" in a sort of tube you shove into a nostril and inhale.
At first I thought it was a comedic fake ad, but nope.
Thus, enter honey spray. The rules are flawless and described in the "Bear hypnotism for Dummies 3rd edition" . I think I have helped out as far as I could, if you don't want to do so just proclaim it and don't find cheap excuses for not doing so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
(Did you ever thought that some day someone will accuse you for not trying to hypnotize a bear? Ooohh yeah!)
Well we had harsh multi-hour lockdowns for most of the pandemic, some of which were 20 hour lockdowns. The government even flirted with the idea of permanent 20 hour lock-downs. They were severe enough to significantly impact the economies of small business to the point where several business owners are still before the courts for breaking the law in order to feed their families. We were kind of lucky because we dealt with an industry that was deemed essential by the government. Nonetheless, I have some fond memories like an entire squad of heavily armed and armored policemen threatening me like I was El Chapo because I was in front my house 5 minutes before curfew. Yea that was fun. The lockdowns stirred up enough trouble that one of our most prominent leaders threatened the government with a coup if they didn't end the lockdowns. He 100% had the power to do since he had done it decades earlier the last time he perceived the government was being unjust. Fun times over here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Frankly, I've been kicking myself for years for not hypnotizing one particular bear.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
Somebody had told me about a little blond bear that had bothered them at a camp several miles away. It sounded interesting, but...it had been several miles away, so I dozed off. I was awoken by a sound, and looked out of the tent. There was the bear, reaching up for my food bag.
Now, most black bears are not very photogenic. You get a picture of a bear-shaped absence of light. Not this bear, though. This bear was a kind of dirty-white color, kind of like your typical sheep, except that it had black paws and a black muzzle. That was the most photogenic bear I have ever seen...and I missed the picture. Instead of grabbing my camera for what would have been an epic picture, I asked the bear what it was doing. It looked puzzled, but ambled off. I grabbed the camera and chased it half way around a lake, but the only pictures I got were pretty terrible. All it shows is the backside of the bear, and it looks like nothing more than a sheep. I'd have to tell people that it was a bear, or else nobody would believe it.
Hypnotizing THAT bear would have been a good thing to do. Perhaps I could have gotten it to pose for me?
I hadn't heard about that extreme a response in this part of the planet. I know the Philipines had some brutal lockdowns, and of course there is always China (I suppose North Korea might be worse, but they were in lockdown before COVID was even a thing). On the other hand, we have the highest death toll (unless India passed us, but they do have four times our population), so the US response worked out economically, but not in other ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niya
Is that what they call it? I've always heard it described as sniffing glue. Maybe that's a different thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
I am simply in awe that people living in 2021 are still naive enough to utter nonsense like this. This is basically "It can never happen to me" kind of thinking. Why do people always think it can't happen to them.Quote:
No. We are living in a democracy. We have the protection of the police. Nobody's going to hurt us.
Next time you try to hypno one just RTFM.
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Well the worst of it is behind us. The government ended the lockdowns and we are now on a slow road to economic recovery but that is still looking bleak. There are still several changes that altered the way we live life here and there is no end in sight. Certain freedoms we had before are now gone. For one thing, we have to wear masks here permanently and it's not something we can take lightly unless we want to face very stiff fines at the hands of the courts enforced by an over-zealous police force. We also have some kind of safe-zone thing which is used to restrict certain activities and behaviors for unvaccinated people. Violating these restrictions carry far stiffer penalties. The latest thing that is happening now is the government is refusing to pay it's workers unless they get vaccinated. All in all, life here is nothing like it was before. It's like living in a different world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
If you want to hypnotize a bear, there is a technique that won't ever fail:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Look for a female bear that just gave birth and is with the cubs.
Try to touch or get near to any of its childs.
Come back here and report.
Here is one such product: https://boomboomnaturals.com/
Did you know that in Australia they are detaining unvaccinated people into hotels? (no concentration camps still -step by step-).
The news are from early december: Liberal senator Alex Antic taken to medi-hotel by police over vaccination status.
Interview to the senator on video:
https://rumble.com/vqc6wi-australian...n-centers.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXjvCcYpSY0
Milgram experiment (fron Wikipedia):
Read full: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experimentQuote:
The Milgram experiment(s) on obedience to authority figures was a series of social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram. They measured the willingness of study participants, men in the age range of 20 to 50 from a diverse range of occupations with varying levels of education, to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts conflicting with their personal conscience. Participants were led to believe that they were assisting an unrelated experiment, in which they had to administer electric shocks to a "learner". These fake electric shocks gradually increased to levels that would have been fatal had they been real.
:duck:
Here's a humorous video of doing exactly that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJRDpTUIrJIQuote:
Originally Posted by Eduardo-
There are others. As mentioned early on, they aren't all that aggressive at that time.
Yes, that's a famous experiment. Whether or not it really showed what he said it showed has been debated ever since. The Wikipedia article lays out some of the controversy surrounding it and the variations on the experiment that looked at other interpretations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eduardo-
That's cheating, if you drug the mother you cannot hypnotize her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Another related experiment: The Third Wave (experiment): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Th...e_(experiment)
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The experiment took place at Cubberley High School in Palo Alto, California, during the first week of April 1967. Jones, finding himself unable to explain to his students how the German people could have claimed ignorance of The Holocaust, decided to demonstrate it to them instead. Jones started a movement called "The Third Wave" and told his students that the movement aimed to eliminate democracy. The idea that democracy emphasises individuality was considered a drawback, and Jones emphasised this main point of the movement in its motto: "Strength through discipline, strength through community, strength through action, strength through pride."
Yeah, I thought so, too. I thought I had seen a video where they didn't use drugs, but they were only measuring the cubs. Couldn't find it, though. The video I linked to is more entertaining anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eduardo-
If you really want to understand what is going on, I can point you what to do. But you'll have to spend no less than six hours watching videos.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
I guess you are not willing to do that. So, yes, it gets weirder (like when you look into code of a program that you don't understand).
The movie The Wave sounded familiar, but not at all what was mentioned in the article. As it turns out, there have been several films with that name. I watched the Norwegian disaster film with that name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eduardo-
Otherwise, that's an interesting experiment. I've stated on here before (albeit MANY years back) that there tends to be a few groups that form around any concept. There are the high priests, the true believers, and the enforcers. The concept can be truly insignificant. You can see it with backpackers, programmers, fishermen, and most likely any hobby. Of course, you also see it with religion and politics of all stripes. The high priests often don't know they fill that role, or are embarrassed to fill the role, but sometimes they relish the role and really lean into it. They tend to be the people who have really mastered the subject through great personal commitment, which is usually driven by an enthusiasm for the subject.
The enforcers are a subset of the true believers. The true believers may be quite devoted to the subject, but either don't feel they have sufficient skill, experience, or ability, or are fairly new. There are also casual participants, who aren't all that devoted, and often make up the largest group. They often don't much care about the wisdom of the high priests, and can readily lose interest.
The enforcers are perhaps the most interesting group. They tend to self-appoint, and decide who is sufficiently pure. They also often act as gate keepers, deciding who is in the club and who is excluded. I've always found the enforcers around any club to suffer from something of an inferiority complex. They tend to be the ones that say, "I'm not good/smart enough to excel at this". It's as if they stand on the fringes, wishing they were the high priests, and keeping out anybody who they don't think to be equally devoted.
Since enforcer groups seem to form around such mundane subjects, I'm not surprised that the experiment was able to get them to form over a pseudo-serious topic.
This is all interesting and true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
One common aspect in such phenomena is that the "believers" of this kind are believers based on blind faith.
It means that they don't reason, they are able to "believe" contradictory concepts, all at the same time.
Also they are fanatics and get angry if their beliefs are challenged (don't know how to defend them because they don't reason).
Their minds are narrowed, everything outside their narrow views are seen as a threat.
BTW, don't you see a parallelism with the pandemic and the pushing of vaccinations?
Who are the priests?
Who are the enforcers?
Who are the believers?
I don't understand why you go beating around the bush on bear hypno since there is that perfectly good book.
Use the techniques, spay honey (spray not spread) , sing the hymn and report back. Bears smell vaxbies anyhow so they will come for you eventually so hypnotism is an excellent defense.
As for the other less serious stuff, I think that even if someone is right and tell to other people, they usually tend to go "over protective" so even if something is correct they won't accept it.
I have seen this happen a lot of times, I probably have done so in the past as a youngster. I could willingly accept that I was wrong on the whole covid thing , except I wasn't...And no this is not wine it's grape juice!
I received a few posts of condolences on this and thanks...I just got an update from a mutual friend that saw him tonight. It is sad on many levels. Here are two:Quote:
That friend of my I mentioned in a few posts back is still sick. I think it has been more than a month ago. He rarely answers the phone (his son does). As an update:
He wasn't vaccinated and got the virus.
After a few days he went to the hospital.
After a few days he got bored and checked himself out.
Went home and would not return phone calls.
We got an update yesterday. He is still VERY sick in bed and he has lost 46 pounds. I'm thinking at this point he has become a long hauler. He is over sixty-five with diabetes. I'm not going to go back through the links but I think it is well over a month since he got sick.
#1
He had to go back to the hospital and is back out. Since he had checked himself out before, and the hospital is at maximum capacity, they stabilized his insulin level (he is diabetic), and sent him home. That all makes me very sad because he is so sick but can't get treatment. He is emaciated at this point and his family is reaching out to us friends on the outside because he won't listen to them about staying in he hospital. But as I mentioned he burnt that bridge
#2
He put himself there and is is taxing us all. The hell with you. He railed against vaccinations and still does. The hospital turned him away because they are packed with people just like him. It is tough to be mad at a friend that deserves what he is getting and you wouldn't wish that on an enemy
I think he is a long hauler now...
I was actually thinking of model railroads when I wrote that. It's as benign a subject as you can possibly find, and also one that I know almost nothing about. I'd be one of those casual participants on that, since I had a model railroad when I was young, but not for decades. Still, I happened to see an ad for some kind of course or seminar on model railroads (it probably showed as an ad for one of those bear tagging videos). The priests were clear, as they were the experts teaching the course(s). The believers were also clear, as they were the ones wanting to learn. The enforcers? Well, certainly not mentioned, but they always form in any group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eduardo-
I'm not sure about the true believers having blind faith. It depends on the subject. If you get to something tangible, like model railroad dioramas, I would say that they don't have blind faith. They might be fanatic, they may or may not have skills, but they aren't taking much on blind faith. On the other hand, for really complicated subjects like religion and politics, then yeah, there'd be plenty of blind faith. Probably also true with quantum physics. Any subject where you can be fanatic without full comprehension would be a candidate.
When it comes to vaccines, there isn't one set, there are two. There's vax and anti-vax. Both have their high priests, both have their true believers, and both have their enforcers. Niya also made it clear that it's quite different from country to country, while Dilettante and others has made it clear to me that it is quite different from state to state within the US.
Well I can't do it NOW. It's winter! The bears are all dozing. I'll have to wait till spring. Still, how do you spray honey? I got this fancy looking honey dispenser, and it only works if you eat a LOT of honey. If you are using it pretty constantly, then it will work, but if you consume honey at a more normal rate, it will just clog up and be turned into a fancy looking display of crystalized honey.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
You aren't diluting your honey with corn syrup are you? That would be just wrong.
Still, now that I think about it, that dispenser would probably work really well for syrup.
That's unfortunate. Is the insulin imbalance the cause of the weight loss?Quote:
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
I agree, but I was talking about the kind of "believers" that you depicted (or at least I understood you were depicting).Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
The "true" believers that you now say, are rational.
It is live believing that the train tracks do not join.
You have to believe that, that they don't actually join far away, but you does that because you reason and you already have that information.
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But the other ones (blind faith) are capable of believing that the moon is of cheese (an exaggeration), or that the earth is flat, or whatever that goes against all evidence.
Even in the group that believes "true" things there are also some fanatics. They don't reason, they are mostly motivated by fear and they are insecure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
May be in this group there are also priests, believers and enforcers, but they play a different role since they have to do their job with the truth, not with lies (as the other group does).
This is how society and human organization works anyway, it is not bad per se.
Not everybody has the ability to be Einstein.
Yes, we are just in the first stage. The world is large to coordinate and manage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Australia seems to be ahead in the route.
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Woman arrested at cafe during COVID vaccine checks.
Astonishing moment FIVE Aussie police arrest woman after she 'refused to show her vaccine passport' as she shrieks: 'Don't arrest me'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_os74m9uFIQuote:
middle aged woman has been dramatically arrested by five police at a popular cafe after refusing to show her vaccination certificate.
The video then shows the large squad of officers arresting the 46-year-old out the front of the store as she shrieked 'you can't arrest me'.
She was bundled into the back of the police car, taken to the watchhouse, charged and fined $1,300.
I think they do it for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by baka
Cheaper, impossible.
OK, not really cheap. They had to invest a lot on mass media.
Aside from that...
If you were a multi-billionaire, what would you do?
What can a multi-billionaire do with the money?
Change the world, yes.
In which way?
It doesn't matter, in the way that is more fun.
And what is fun, when you already did everything that a man could wish for (restricted to things that the money can buy)?
And that is not considering that they are psychopaths.
Because you might think that they could have some good wishes, after all.
In fact, the root is spiritual. It is not a coincidence that the richest people in the world are bad persons (or most of them).
So you can get an idea about from where is coming all this.
It is easier (for me) to understand what is happening when you already know beforehand what are the forces behind.
:duck:
It is important to understand what a theory is.
Because sometimes it is used in a derogatory way, saying "it is just a theory".
I'll explain it with my own words (or you can go to Wikipedia: Theory and Scientific theory).
A theory is a way of understanding something, a way of explaining something that is observed.
We could say that it is like a model, something that you present and it works in the way that produces what we can see in reality.
It can make predictions. Because based in the way this "model" works, you can predict what is going to happen next.
For example, using the theory of gravitation of Newton, you can predict the position of the planets in some future.
Was the Newton's gravitational theory accurate?
Yes, very accurate.
But there were some strange things that seemed not to follow the theory.
There were some observations that didn't match with what the theory predicted.
The most famous being the precession of the perihelion of Mercury.
Then Einstein came with his General relativity theory that explained much better this observation.
Einstein theory also predicted that a light from a distant star would curve while passing near a massive star, that was tested and confirmed.
That gave also much credit to his theory.
Is then Einstein theory "the truth" about gravity? No. Theories are not "the truth", theories are ways to explain something, that work.
Well, they "mostly" work. I mean, there are some things where they don't work, like Newton's theory didn't explain the precession of the perihelion of Mercury observation, Einstein theory also have its own problems.
But it more accurately explain most of the observations, and very accurately for most cases.
So it is useful. It is not "the truth", and in a future a new theory ould come to explain gravitation even better. But it won't the "the truth" either.
That what theories are, a way to explain the reality that we observe, that just "work".
Sometimes there are competing theories, so you need to perform experiments, to make observations, to see what theory works better.
And when will be humanity able to know the ultimate truth about how the Universe works?
IMO never. That's beyond human capacity. At least not in this world.
All we have are theories that are confined to a particular field.
Why we make theories? Because we don't know the truth about many things, how they actually work. We need to discover how things work and what is happening by making a model that can explain all the observations that we see and are (before the theory) disconnected, they are like pieces in a puzzle that we don't know how to put together.
That's what a theory does, propose a way to put together the pieces of a puzzle. By making this, there will be perhaps things that we are not able to prove because they are beyond our human capacity.
And that's a problem in science, because when you are not able to prove something, that's called metaphysics (meta: Gr. beyond; metaphysics: beyond physics).
Metaphysics is not allowed in science by principle.
Still, there are many metaphysics like the String Theory, Multiverse theories, etc. Evolution Theory also because nobody can go to the past to watch and experiment if something like that really happened or not.
So, when they call something a "conspiracy theory". It is in fact accurate, because it is a way to explain some things we observe, and it include a conspiracy.
But mass media use that label of "conspiracy theory" in a derogatory way to discredit an idea.
Yes, there are many of crazy conspiracy theories out there, And?
That means that there are no true conspiracies?
For example, there are many religions and some of them (or most... or all) preach crazy stuff. And that means that God doesn't exist?
So, yes, about this thing of mass media narrative and all this pandemic, we have a conspiracy theory. What's the problem?
And if these ideas are just for nutcases, why Google/Youtube/Facebook/Tweeter/TV are filtering all this ideas. It seems like they are afraid of something.
You can say: "I understand, but I don't like being labeled as a nutcase because I believe in a conspiracy theory".
Yes, right, I understand. I myself prefer the truth.
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I don't know. The nature of our friendship is a bunch of us get together on Saturday and play pool in a buddies basement. We have been doing it for over fifteen years. I don't know him very well outside of that other than he is a gun collector/seller and I went to his stand once. So I get everything second hand. Maybe it is a combination of weeks in bed and no appetite. They did have to stabilize him so that may well have been a factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
this is interesting
explains why vaccination is bad in the long run
and what we should have done instead.
so watch this interview with Dr Geert Vanden Bossche
https://rumble.com/vrkwiv-dr-geert-v...anization.html
You do realise that Dr Geert Vanden Bossche is actually pro vaccination right? and also works on developing vaccines?Quote:
this is interesting
explains why vaccination is bad in the long run
and what we should have done instead.
so watch this interview with Dr Geert Vanden Bossche
He says that he believes that mass-vaccination during a pandemic should stop, and we should wait and than mass vaccinate afterwards with a different type of vaccine, which he just happens to be developing
This of course is not in anyway a conflict of interest
His entire manifesto has also already been widely discredited.
Still, with Omicron spikes rapidly receding it does look like Covid is finally becoming weak enough to be endemic. That's fantastic news.