Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

Just read this in the news:

The world's ten richest men have become even richer during the pandemic years, while the vast majority have had reduced incomes, according to a report from the human rights organization Oxfam.

Millions of people have fallen below the poverty line.

The total wealth of the ten richest people has increased from the equivalent of approximately SEK 6,300 billion to SEK 13,500 billion in 2020 and 2021. For 99 percent of the world's population, on the other hand, income has decreased and 160 million people have suffered from poverty during the pandemic, especially non-whites. ethnic minorities and women.

Italian Democracy emergency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE-T8VnymJA

Good morning my name is Matteo Gracis and I am an independent journalist, this video is a denunciation of the serious situation in which Italy is today.
Democracy in our country has been compromised and many of us fear that it will never be restored in the name of an endless and questionable emergency.
In february 2021 mario draghi took office at the head of the government; economist and banker, former goldman sachs man, former president of the ecb european central bank and current member of the group of thirty, as well as one of the main people responsible for the economic and social collapse of greece in 2015. Since taking office, the draghi government has already used the vote of confidence 35 times. An instrument that allows the majority to approve laws and decrees, effectively depriving parliament of its functions. In fact, the vote of confidence prevents any discussion of changes to the texts brought to the classroom by the executive.
The opposition, already almost non-existent, has now no sense of existence. As well as the opinions within the different parties.
We are faced with a single major party that governs Italy.
Completely ignoring the will and the needs of Italian citizens, the minorities that democracy must always respect and protect,
today in Italy they are literally persecuted.
In fact, there are several articles of the italian constitution that this government is openly violating:
from article 4 that recognizes to all citizens the right to work,
Article 13, which declares that personal freedom is inviolable, and
Article 21 that defends the freedom of speech and thought,
Article 24 which states that everyone can take legal action to protect their rights,
the right to demonstrate has even been compromised and limited.
In this state there is now no room for those who are not aligned with the directives of the authorities.
But this is a typical feature of dictatorial regimes not of modern democracies.


The press conferences called by the Prime Minister Mario Draghi are full of fake news and falsehoods: among the best known is the statement "you do not get vaccinated, you get sick, you die" issued last July, or the one that promised citizens a quick return to "normal" thanks to the green pass, as well as the security of not infecting or being infected guaranteed to those vaccinated made in October 2021.
Statements that no one dares to deny or correct, and even the few harmless questions that are asked by journalists are not answered.
In the meantime, the government in question brings forward and approves laws that are in favor of a few and to the detriment of the community, such as the abolition of the cap on the maximum salaries of public managers or the privatization of water. The latter was even included in an amendment at night, thus cancelling the debate with local authorities.

as of march 2020, italy is one of the states in the world that has suffered the most restrictions on personal freedoms in response to covid19,
at the same time 90.57% of the population over 12 has received at least one dose of vaccine or has been cured by the maximum six months, so it should be, according to the authorities, immunized.
This despite the fact that on December 15, 2021, date in which the intensive care units of Italian hospitals were occupied to 9.48 percent ( according to official data ) , the government has extended again the state of emergency until March 31, 2022. At the same time it introduced the super green pass; a pass necessary to work, use public transport and enter restaurants or practice competitive sports.
Making it mandatory, but without assuming responsibility for any adverse reactions, a health treatment still at an experimental stage and, in the light of official data of doubtful efficacy.
in the light of official data of dubious effectiveness.
A discriminating tool for millions of Italian citizens.
Despite the fact that the institutions have repeatedly reiterated how all this may have been put in place to deal with the health emergency caused by the advent of sars Cov2, in these 24 months there has been no provision in any way to strengthen the hospitals by increasing the places in intensive care,
nor has consideration been given to home care, which could have helped relieve the pressure on hospitals.
On the contrary, care has even been hindered and further cuts to public healthcare have been implemented.

In all this, Italian journalism is dead, and has turned into pure propaganda. The media merely report the government's statements; they have become its press office. They do not make more inquiries or uncomfortable questions of any kind, there is no more confrontation and debate and no space is given to critical voices of dissent.
Imagine how distorted the citizens' perception of reality can be;
If it is sunny outside but the television says it is raining, everyone goes out with an open umbrella, and this is what has been happening for the past two years. In the meantime, public contributions to publishing have increased and specific funds have even been allocated to disseminate institutional communications.
To try to stem this scourge, in the spring of last year, together with some colleagues and collaborators, we founded a new online newspaper entitled "l'indipendente", without advertising of any kind or ties to political parties.
In our opinion this is the only way to offer an impartial information without conflicts of interest, to get verified news and updates on what happens in our country I invite you to connect to www.lindipendente.online.
The real emergency in Italy today is not health but political, because we are increasingly moving away from true democracy approaching a polite dictatorship.
Soon the emergency will also be economic and social. We are a country on the brink of the abyss where hundreds of thousands of small and medium-sized companies will soon be forced to close, and where social inequalities are increasingly evident.
The President of the Republic, Sergio Mattarella, who should be the Guarantor of the Constitution, instead endorses any delusion of the government. And in the meantime he has recently declared, near the end of his mandate, that he is leaving a "united" country, when perhaps it has never been as divided as it is now.
The blame and responsibility for this cannot be placed on a virus or pandemic but on its management. And in our case to the Conte government, the draghi government and all its ministers .
We will resist and fight for our rights and our country thank you for your attention.

Yeah, its terrible what is happening in the south Europe.
we all know that governments are corrupted. and Italy has a history of that, so its not strange they are using this situation for their own benefits.
what we need is a purge. the removal of all the corruption in all governments in the world and let common people be in charge with normal salaries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqbsJljdxJs

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nV1c0N5bS1Xu/
quite interesting

Shankara Chetty could be called a second Zelenko. He is a medical doctor, a general practitioner in South Africa who has treated more than 7000 Covid patients successfully, without the need for extra oxygen or hospitalization. Through meticulous observation he was able to discern the nature of Covid-19 as a two-phase illness with a respiratory and an allergic phase, and to develop a treatment protocol which he describes in the first part of the interview.

In the second part he is talking about how he sees the pandemic, long covid, the virus and its variants, the whack scenes, and the development of a new medicine, to treat the negative effects from the spike proteins.

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Just read this in the news:

The world's ten richest men have become even richer during the pandemic years, while the vast majority have had reduced incomes, according to a report from the human rights organization Oxfam.

The total wealth of the ten richest people has increased from the equivalent of approximately SEK 6,300 billion to SEK 13,500 billion in 2020 and 2021. For 99 percent of the world's population, on the other hand, income has decreased and 160 million people have suffered from poverty during the pandemic, especially non-whites. ethnic minorities and women.

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This isn't an accident. Like I said, self interest governs the world.

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This isn't an accident. Like I said, self interest governs the world.

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I reminds me of a game of Monopoly. Everyone starts out even and by the luck of the dice, luck of the draws, and some skills, the property is bought and money accumulated. It will end up with the wealth being owned by fewer and fewer players Gradually poorer players will be forced out because they cannot afford to play. The only thing I left is to start the game over again. That pattern has played out many times in our history.

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I reminds me of a game of Monopoly. Everyone starts out even and by the luck of the dice, luck of the draws, and some skills, the property is bought and money accumulated. It will end up with the wealth being owned by fewer and fewer players Gradually poorer players will be forced out because they cannot afford to play. The only thing I left is to start the game over again. That pattern has played out many times in our history.

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Monopoly is a mock-up of the real thing. The rules are designed for that very outcome. You cannot have super wealthy people without casting a whole lot of people into poverty. Why do you think America hated the idea of communism so much? The core idea of communism grates against the very human desire to put self first.

Yeah, which is why communism never happened. Every country that called itself communist morphed into autocracy almost immediately. Communism is an unstable philosophy, like a radioactive particle with a very short half-life.

Communism, Nepotism,Cronyism,Fascism,Nazism.
But I think currently we have Hypnotism, I can't figure out why we vote those idiots so I think hypnotism is a fair assumption.

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Like the French revolution, Russian revolution, Cuba and many many others? Were the people any better off? I can't think of any, surely there must have been some success. Purging out the current government doesn't insure removal of corruption. I'm all for removing corruption, but how???

As for salaries, in the US the president makes $400,000, members of congress $174,000. Seems reasonable, @ the same as doctors. If accumulating money is your goal there are better ways.

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Communism, Nepotism,Cronyism,Fascism,Nazism.
But I think currently we have Hypnotism, I can't figure out why we vote those idiots so I think hypnotism is a fair assumption.

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I still didn't have the chance to watch this video, but someone could take a look and see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLDpZ8daIVM

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I still didn't have the chance to watch this video, but someone could take a look and see:

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I will have to watch this. It is a mystery to me. I now know 2 people vaxxed who got sick: my nephew two dose positive suspected delta, few symptoms and recovered and then my aunt boostered, omicron now in hospital on oxygen.
They all believe it is that “mild” because they got vaxxed. Isn’t this against science? 80% contracting the original wuhan strain did not even notice it! (Ischgl study). Omicron is generally milder! If I just mention that it now must be allowed to discuss the efficiency of the vax, I am getting stoned for blasphemy…
BTW, no one yet has explained the numbers from that Scottish paper I posted a few pages back…

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Simple, as I said before (in case you didn't notice) the vaccine is useless against omicron.

That friend of my I mentioned in a few posts back is still sick. I think it has been more than a month ago. He rarely answers the phone (his son does). As an update:

He wasn't vaccinated and got the virus.
After a few days he went to the hospital.
After a few days he got bored and checked himself out.
Went home and would not return phone calls.

We got an update yesterday. He is still VERY sick in bed and he has lost 46 pounds. I'm thinking at this point he has become a long hauler. He is over sixty-five with diabetes. I'm not going to go back through the links but I think it is well over a month since he got sick.

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That friend of my I mentioned in a few posts back is still sick. I think it has been more than a month ago. He rarely answers the phone (his son does). As an update:

He wasn't vaccinated and got the virus.
After a few days he went to the hospital.
After a few days he got bored and checked himself out.
Went home and would not return phone calls.

We got an update yesterday. He is still VERY sick in bed and he has lost 46 pounds. I'm thinking at this point he has become a long hauler. He is over sixty-five with diabetes. I'm not going to go back through the links but I think it is well over a month since he got sick.

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Sorry to hear that. Hospital trauma and long term trauma isn't acknowledged very frequently around here. It's such a strange virus, or maybe it just feels that way because it's new. Omicron is suppose to be less severe but our daily death rate has risen from 1,200+ to 1,700+. That's tragic.

There are indicators that the O wave will peak quickly (we might already be there). Let hope so.

Hope he get's better.
Personally I've seen a lot of people getting a leave of absence in the company but the mostly stay home with mild if any symptoms vaxed of unvaxed but i think most of the people in the company are vaxed.
I haven't heard of anyone even going to the hospital. Generally, it's been a few weeks since I heard someone checking, in to the point that I'm wondering what the heck are all these deaths they are showing us every day.

I will post this again,
but its a most watch

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nV1c0N5bS1Xu/

very good insight about covid.
I think this guy cracked it.
very good explaining how it works, about all his patients, what he discovered, what helped
he used a cocktail of medicines, steroids, antihistamine and a few other things to help people that got that reaction the 8th day and helped all patients to recover, without the need of hospitalization and oxygen.

of course big pharma will not recommend this at all. they want to inject spike proteins inside your body.

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That friend of my I mentioned in a few posts back is still sick. I think it has been more than a month ago. He rarely answers the phone (his son does). As an update:

He wasn't vaccinated and got the virus.
After a few days he went to the hospital.
After a few days he got bored and checked himself out.
Went home and would not return phone calls.

We got an update yesterday. He is still VERY sick in bed and he has lost 46 pounds. I'm thinking at this point he has become a long hauler. He is over sixty-five with diabetes. I'm not going to go back through the links but I think it is well over a month since he got sick.

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Hey Tyson, that is sad to hear, all the best to your friend. Covid can certainly be dangerous for some (and it sounds like your friend is in the risk group with overweight and diabetes), i am in no way denying that. but i think the risk is terribly exaggerated in the media, the politicians terribly overreacted and the vax is terribly overrated and glorified.

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Simple, as I said before (in case you didn't notice) the vaccine is useless against omicron.

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pssst, the numbers even suggest a negative effect

I was the first to post it here in the Denmark report but it was an early one so I used caution.

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I was the first to post it here in the Denmark report but it was an early one so I used caution.

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As for Denmark... one of the Countries with the highest vacc-rates,
but also apparently one which is using real, unfaked numbers in their reports and studies...

Here's 3 current Charts, all showing the recent, roughly 7-weeks-interval,
when Omicron started to take over from Delta, all curves from Dec. 1 2021 - up to the current day:

1) Showing, that the current Vaccines were (and are) unable to prevent the huge Omicron-wave
.. (the current top of the wave is factor 6 higher than on Dec. 1 - and still climbing)
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...e&country=~DNK

2) Showing, that Omicron (referring to the fear-mongering in most channels), is not causing higher ICU-occupation
.. (despite the huge increase of infections, observable in 1))
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...e&country=~DNK

3) And in case anyone still needs proof, that Omicron-is far less deadly than Delta...
.. (currently it is factor 4 lower than on Dec. 1, and it will sink further because the infections are still climbing and the ICU-occupation is sinking)
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...e&country=~DNK

Olaf

maybe this is better?
this is a 1on1 interview with Shankara Chetty and Maria Zeee
https://rumble.com/vsokj8-dr.-shanka...-0-deaths.html

I recommend everyone to listen to this.
it could actually save someone dear to you if you know this.

this video is quite good: https://rumble.com/vst08o-karen-king...-children.html

what is says is this, in a study:

the data show vaccinated resp unvaccinated. and of course unvaccinated are always over-representative. they show sign of infection and get sick.
telling the public: look here, if u are vaccinated you are safe. look at those imbecile unvaccinated how many that gets sick!

but, reading the rapport further, they tell you something that nobody cares about:
after 1 week, "a lot" of vaccinated people got sick.

that means, the vaccine is protecting you from the "corona" but not from the spike-protein allergic reaction, that is the one that is fatal.

it all makes sense.
watch the video with Shankara Chetty first. it explain why this it like that.

and if this will not make you change your mind, nothing will.

This is a german documentation about the Swineflue of 2009:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKkQH6JO4n8

switch on auto translated subtitles if you dont speak german.

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Communism, Nepotism,Cronyism,Fascism,Nazism.
But I think currently we have Hypnotism, I can't figure out why we vote those idiots so I think hypnotism is a fair assumption.

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Why not mesmerism? Ol' Mesmer has faded in popularity. It's hip to hype Hypnotism, while mesmerism molders.

I have linked mesmerism with a good thing so while possible I prefer Hypnotism.
But yeah if that will bring back the bears...

Lord knows they need it, after this season.

You probably aren't talking about the team from Chicago, but I have no idea what you are talking about, so that's as good as any.

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watch the video with Shankara Chetty first. it explain why this it like that.

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I found this transcript: https://sca.news/en/corona-committee...ona-committee/

of his testimony https://www.bitchute.com/video/nV1c0N5bS1Xu/

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Lord knows they need it, after this season.

You probably aren't talking about the team from Chicago, but I have no idea what you are talking about, so that's as good as any.

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Lol, my first though was that you will think what you thought.

Actually I'm talking about claws, disembowelment and bites. Vaxbies favorites :p

In that case I have no idea what you mean. How does hypnotism bring back bears? Bring them back to where?

I have noticed that most of the news sites that every day publish the new covid cases, also mention the accumulated cases and accumulated deaths from the pandemic started, also showing graphs of the accumulated data, like reminding to everyone how many people died and the bad of this pandemic, also giving the impression with those graphs that have ascending curves (because it is accumulated data) that the situation is only getting worse.

If that is not on purpose and the direction from above, tell me what it is.

IDK in your countries if they are doing the same thing, but my guess is that it must be global.

another attempt to control:

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270 researchers, doctors and nurses are now demanding in a joint appeal that Spotify stop podcasts with incorrect and misleading information about vaccines, reports Dagens Nyheter.

Among other things, the researchers point to Joe Rogan's podcast "The Joe Rogan experience", the most popular podcast on Spotify and the largest podcast in the world, as one of the world's most influential sources of harmful information about vaccines and the corona pandemic.

"This is not just a health issue but a societal issue of terrible proportions and Spotify is to blame for letting this kind of activity thrive on the platform," the researchers write in the appeal.

The researchers' anger against Spotify was aroused after Joe Rogan interviewed the well-known vaccine opponent Robert Malone, who, among other things, compared the requirements for vaccines and restrictions with the Nazi extermination camps.

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I have noticed that most of the news sites that every day publish the new covid cases, also mention the accumulated cases and accumulated deaths from the pandemic started, also showing graphs of the accumulated data, like reminding to everyone how many people died and the bad of this pandemic, also giving the impression with those graphs that have ascending curves (because it is accumulated data) that the situation is only getting worse.

If that is not on purpose and the direction from above, tell me what it is.

IDK in your countries if they are doing the same thing, but my guess is that it must be global.

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Why would it be directions from above? People misuse data all the time, it doesn't mean they are being controlled into doing so. News is about selling a story. That's why most news is bad news: That's what sells. Showing the cumulative deaths doesn't bother me so much. Whether that is misleading depends on what message you are discussing. That's actually an issue that we wrestle with in counting salmon redds (nests). Nobody is directing us as to how to count salmon, but we end up with two different approaches (cumulative and otherwise) that can be used differently depending on the question being asked. You just have to understand what is being reported so that you don't misuse the data. For that reason, I don't mind cumulative death reporting for COVID.

However, I don't agree with cumulative infection rate reporting for COVID. There's a use for that, but the data isn't being used correctly. You could use that to look at population immunity, but I've only occasionally heard anybody mention cumulative infection rates in that context. Daily or weekly infection rate seems like the only thing that should be reported for infections. That figure certainly leads on any reporting that I've heard locally, but the cumulative infection count is often also included and it shouldn't be.

Still, I'd say it's just because people don't do stats all that well.

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In that case I have no idea what you mean. How does hypnotism bring back bears? Bring them back to where?

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I'm amazed. You just answered yourself the question an you still ask me?

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I've stopped checking the daily numbers for the US. It seems very inconsistent, weekend number are always much smaller, then some really big numbers early in the week as they catch up on the reporting. Been just checking the 7 day averages for a while now.

Reporting cumulatives is common, never thought I'd hear someone use that a sign of something nefarious.

I just wanted to know if in other countries people are seeing the same behavior from media, not to get opinions and interpretations from negacionists.

BTW: I'm watching this video about the society hypnotized, it is a bit boring, but what it describes is true anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLDpZ8daIVM

He is a psychologist that is explaining mass formation, and how the mass-formed people can sacrifice lot of individual things (freedom, goods, even their lives) for the "good of the mass".

It happened with Nazis and also with Communists in USSR.

I'm in minute 22.

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I'm amazed. You just answered yourself the question an you still ask me?

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How does hypnotism have anything to do with bears? No bear I have ever encountered was readily hypnotized.

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If that is not on purpose and the direction from above, tell me what it is.

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It's definitely on purpose. They can scare the population into selling their freedom for security.

It's funny, I remember in the very beginning of this whole pandemic. I too was quite scared of it. Then one night I asked the missus to pull up some numbers for me on the internet and I crunched them myself. I wanted to know what my chances of dying were and I found them to be too low for me to be as worried as I was. Shortly after we both contracted it, it lasted 3 days for me and 5 days for her. We silently recovered right in the privacy of our own home using common household treatments like Panadol, orange juice, vitamins, rubbing alcohol and vix. I stopped caring about Covid after that.

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He is a psychologist that is explaining mass formation, and how the mass-formed people can sacrifice lot of individual things (freedom, goods, even their lives) for the "good of the mass".

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It happens with well above 99.9% of humans. Every society means that you sacrifice some individual things for the "good of the mass." Therefore, the only people who don't do that are the rare few that aren't part of society. Those people are usually insane, and the insanity means that they can't live in society.

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It happens with well above 99.9% of humans. Every society means that you sacrifice some individual things for the "good of the mass." Therefore, the only people who don't do that are the rare few that aren't part of society. Those people are usually insane, and the insanity means that they can't live in society.

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The only problem is when you do that based on lies for the benefit of an elite.
That's happens when your mind have been narrowed too much, to the point that you don't see other things, you only focus on one (alleged) problem.

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It's definitely on purpose. They can scare the population into selling their freedom for security.

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And that's definitely rubbish. Of course most people survive. The death rate was ALWAYS reported to be very low for the vast majority of people. That doesn't matter for those who did die or the families of those who did die.

What freedom did you sell? What security did you gain? Once again the conspiracy has foundered on the rocks of incompetence, yet you still believe in it. Some grand plan to gain...well, nothing obvious, but it was still a grand plan and it failed. If your goal in life was to go on a cruise in 2020...okay, your goal was thwarted, but otherwise, what have you lost?

You Shaggy are in an alternative reality, so we can't talk about the same things, because we live in different universes.

Evidently, though mine's better.

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One characteristic of mass formation is that it makes people extremely intolerant for dissonant voices, for other voices, and actually we can easily understand that if we know that these other voices, these different voices, threatened to wake people up and to confront them again with these problematic conditions before the mass formation existed, so meaning that if someone tries to convince someone that the corona narrative is wrong or that the mass narrative is wrong, then the people feels that he is at risk of waking up and in that case that he will be confronted again with the initial free-floating anxiety (that he had before the mass formation) and the the lack of social bond and stuff.
And so that's one of the reasons why people are highly intolerant

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Evidently, though mine's better.

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Yes, a lot better.

The only problem is that your universe is not secure.

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What freedom did you sell? What security did you gain?

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Evidently, though mine's better.

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Maybe there really is a multiverse. lol

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That doesn't matter for those who did die or the families of those who did die.

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I've lost people to Covid too and I still don't care about it as much as "they" want me to. Covid didn't kill anymore people I know or care about than any other thing. Eg. Gun violence, fires, sickness, accidents or one of the many dozens of things that killed people everyday before Covid's arrival.

When people care about reality and truth by applying common sense and logic, being rational, they tend to agree in one universe.

Other people that prefer to build their own universes, they live in universes "much better" generally.

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Oh boy. I really don't want to go down this road and get personal again. I'll just say that by the sheer luck of having the right clients we didn't go from having a comfortable life to 2 steps away from starving.....

Covid was (is?) a real threat, but that doesn't mean that they didn't amplify it as much as possible. Using truths and also using lies.
It became more clear now with Omicron, since it was known that it was mild, but they insisted with their fear-mongering the same as before.

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Covid was (is?) a real threat, but that doesn't mean that they didn't amplify it as much as possible. Using truths and also using lies.
It became more clear now with Omicron, since it was known that it was mild, but they insisted with their fear-mongering the same as before.

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In my opinion their main tactic was focusing more on the numbers than percentages. 3000 sounds a lot bigger than 1% in a lot of people's ears.

A few days ago I posted:

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It is my experience from what I see in my country regarding media, politics and so, that about 1/3 of the population prefer to be deceived, being lied doesn't matter, they are fanatics. They don't reason and don't want to know facts.
1/3 are in the opposite side, they hate to be deceived (and stolen) but some become also very fanatic about being in the opposite side and don't look to actual facts, just anything that is according to their ideas is OK.
And the other 1/3 is in the middle, they don't know what to think and sometimes are more convinced from one side and sometimes from the other.
At the end, this 1/3 of the middle defines the outcome, at least while we (still) have democracy.

This perception is not only mine, I remember that I read that there are studies pointing that in more or less the same proportions. Now I don't recall what studies were, they were something of the US government (perhaps CIA) of some decades ago. Sorry that I can't provide something more accurate.

But now I don't think we are globally in that proportion regarding what it is really happening in this pandemic, due to the opposing information being systematically suppressed.

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In a process of mass formation, there are three groups, there are always three groups.
There is one group [of] only about 30% of the people [who] is really hypnotized. That's something strange, and also in a totalitarian state only 30 percent of the population is really totalitarian.

There is a second group of about 40% who usually does not go against the the mass, or the crowd, so they also follow the crowd. And in that way there is a group of 70% who is going along with the system or with the masses.

And then there is an additional group of about 30 percent who is also not hypnotized ["also" because the second group of 40% is not hypnotized, but just follows the mass] and who tries to speak out or to do something.
And that group is extremely heterogeneous. It's of all political backgrounds of all socio-economic statuses, of all ethnic groups.

It's very hard to define what this third group is, but this third group is usually about 25% or 30%.
So if this group could really unify, as soon as this group is really one group, as soon as this group finds a way to really identify with each other, the crisis is over and the mass formation stops. That's the challenge.

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As I said, I saw that in my country.

The 40% of the middle (that just follow the mass), as soon as they perceive that the third groups is large enough, they change side (it is a process, not all change side, at least at once). Specially when they perceive that the third group represents better values than the first group, along with experiencing the consequences of the ideas of the first group.

we have been indoctrinated by media our entire life with conspiracy theories.
and when we are overflow with that many people tend to shut down. too much and the brain is censoring it.
thats the problem here. the people that runs the world economic forum knows it and are using it in details.

even with hard evidence those people will just censor it. no matter what you say and what you present.

- 1. we have a doctor showing in details how covid works and have a protocol how to treat it, successfully.
- 2. we have a doctor explaining real data, that if you read the whole document it shows that theres symptoms showing after 1 week.

just this 2 would explain "a lot" whats going on.
just this 2 would also make you wonder, if those 2 knows this, why not big pharma and experts?

and you will choose "its a conspiracy".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzM1gXaiVo

exactly, we need to be reminded Eduardo.
but how many even care?
thats the scary thing. they don't, they just rationalize saying: its not the same. it will not happen, stop with this nonsense, we are smarter now.

are we really?

while putting your head in the sand, free speech is oppressed and persecuted.

I posted about the news yesterday, that they want to shut down The Joe Rogan experience on spotify.
and today in the news:
the intelligence agency here in Sweden: (Säpo is like CIA)

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Säpo warns of increased misinformation online.
The security police are now warning of what they believe is increased disinformation and extremist propaganda on the internet linked to the pandemic.

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and other news:

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Selfish of pregnant women not to get vaccinated
Only half have taken syringe against covid-19

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they and intensifying it each day.
a propaganda machine to force everybody to take it.

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Originally Posted by baka

exactly, we need to be reminded Eduardo.
but how many even care?
thats the scary thing. they don't, they just rationalize saying: its not the same. it will not happen, stop with this nonsense, we are smarter now.

are we really?

while putting your head in the sand, free speech is oppressed and persecuted.

I posted about the news yesterday, that they want to shut down The Joe Rogan experience on spotify.
and today in the news:
the intelligence agency here in Sweden: (Säpo is like CIA)


and other news:


they and intensifying it each day.
a propaganda machine to force everybody to take it.

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At minute 7:46:

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How serious those warning signs were taken, is exemplified by my mother, who, when I asked her if we had to worry about a guy like Hitler, she said, "No. We are living in a democracy. We have the protection of the police. Nobody's going to hurt us."

So talk about warning signs, there were plenty of them.

Did we take them seriously?
My family didn't. Never believed that Germans would stoop so low that they would implement the threats which one fanatic uttered...
And so, our own life went from bad to worse and it culminated in July of 1942, when we were arrested and sent to a concentration camp.

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It is the exact same thing: before they burned books, today's nobody reads/needs books, people are censored in major media (youtube, TV channels, etc).

The same thing is already happening now.

Some say: it won't happen here in America.
It is already happening, don't you see?

But mandated vaccines won't happen, they say. Because we have democracy, supreme court, etc.
Really? Do you think that these things will protect you?

The same as the mother of this man believed that the police in Germany would protect them.

They go step by step. One year ago, vaccines mandates was not even considered. Now in some countries they are about to be issued (Austria, may be Australia, France).

You have to be very blind for not seeing it.

The same happened in Germany, as this man said:

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So talk about warning signs, there were plenty of them.

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my thoughts are:

where should I move if things starts to get ugly?

I mean, I should not have those thoughts at all, and I live in one of the most open country in the world and I don't feel protected at all.