Unlimited Developement Team

Actually, I'm planning on open sourcing my engine once it's more complete. The only reason I don't give the code away now is that it's somewhat messy in spots, and it still has too many interdependencies on my other libraries that I'm working to remove.

If you guys want I can write you your tile/sprite engines... I'm extremely good at writing fast tile renderers. Nary a man can read the code for the tile renderer for Fury² without losing his mind.

Edit: And no, the code isn't horrible, it's just insanely, insanely optimized C :P

I would really love to see that insane code :)
I have done a lot of tile engines, and I really got no clue how to make them any faster... The only thing I experienced was that nearly all tile engines run the fastest on my PI 266 with a Riva TNT II... (tried them on P2 450 TNT, Athlon 700 Geforce, Athlon 1400 Geforce II)

Here's a snippet:

Code:

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        if(Tilemap->hasalpha == 0) {
                if(Tilemap->alpha >= 255) {
                        for (currentY = Tilemap->y1; currentY < Tilemap->y2; currentY++) {
                                if (poweroftwo) {
                                        for (currentX = Tilemap->x1; currentX < Tilemap->x2; currentX++) {
                                                _asm ADD tilePointer, 2
                                                currentValue = animTable[*tilePointer];
                                                if ((currentValue == Tilemap->maskedtile) || (currentValue > Tilemap->lasttile) || (currentValue < 0)) {
                                                } else {
                                                        destBlit.x1 = ((currentX-Tilemap->minX) << shiftx) - (Tilemap->cameraX);
                                                        destBlit.y1 = ((currentY-Tilemap->minY) << shifty) - (Tilemap->cameraY);
                                                        destBlit.x2 = destBlit.x1 + Tilemap->tilewidth;
                                                        destBlit.y2 = destBlit.y1 + Tilemap->tileheight;
                                                        if (currentValue != lastTile) {
                                                                tileX = (currentValue % Tilemap->tilesperrow) << shiftx;
                                                                tileY = (currentValue / Tilemap->tilesperrow) << shifty;
                                                        }
                                                        srcBlit.x1 = tileX;
                                                        srcBlit.y1 = tileY;
                                                        srcBlit.x2 = srcBlit.x1 + Tilemap->tilewidth;
                                                        srcBlit.y2 = srcBlit.y1 + Tilemap->tileheight;
                                                        lastTile = currentValue;
                                                        if (clipRectangles(&destBlit,&srcBlit,ClippingPlane)) {
                                                                if (((srcBlit.x2 - srcBlit.x1) <= 0) || ((srcBlit.y2 - srcBlit.y1) <= 0)) {} else {
                                                                        rowOffsetD = destBlit.width - (destBlit.x2 - destBlit.x1);
                                                                        rowOffsetS = srcBlit.width - (srcBlit.x2 - srcBlit.x1);
                                                                        sPixel = (f2pixel *)srcBlit.lpStart + (srcBlit.y1 * srcBlit.width) + (srcBlit.x1);
                                                                        dPixel = (f2pixel *)destBlit.lpStart + (destBlit.y1 * destBlit.width) + (destBlit.x1);
                                                                        for (cY = srcBlit.y1; cY < srcBlit.y2; cY++) {
                                                                                for (cX = srcBlit.x1; cX < srcBlit.x2; cX++) {
                                                                                        bMasked = (sPixel->value == Tilemap->maskcolor);
                                                                                        dPixel->value = (sPixel->value & (-(int)!(bMasked))) | (dPixel->value & (-(int)(bMasked)));
                                                                                        _asm {
                                                                                                add dPixel, 4
                                                                                                add sPixel, 4
                                                                                        }
                                                                                }
                                                                                sPixel += rowOffsetS;
                                                                                dPixel += rowOffsetD;
                                                                        }
                                                                }
                                                        }
                                                }
                                        }
                                        tilePointer += rowOffsetT;

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It's kinda messy though, I need to rewrite it and fix up the variable names.

that does look kind of funny...
well I thought you'd be talking about vb... I took a brief look over it and I think there is nothing I could use for my engines, since most of them were much simpler so I could just draw them with two nested for loops and a few variables...
uhm do you draw every single pixel yourself??? I doubt that would be a good idea in VB...

*looks at code and faints*

Whats with those _asm blocks? Any decent compiler is going to optimize tilePointer+=2; down to add tilePointer, 2 =). Otherwise, it looks good =).

Z.

uhm, the site, i dont think you should do that html code get get rid of the adds, angelfire will remove the site, i used to use angelfire and it would remove my site for something that i didnt do, i hate angelfire. Anyway, could you tell me what kind of game this is? i might be able to help, but not with the coding since i am not good at that. (as in i can give some ideas)

is anyone still on this or do you think it would be best to get this thread deleted????
COME ON GUYS!!!

Im here and im learning stuff so i might be able to help in a while

where's flame and gaming though? I thought they would be the ones to get something going here...!!

I still read the thread regularly, but I've had much to else to do to get anything done here.


I should be able to do more work in around 2 weeks. This week is finals, next week I'm going to be gone on a camping trip. So both weeks I'm going to be busy.

Sorry I havent been here for awhile... (DAMN AOL) My ISP started saying web restricted... So I have to use my parents Name to get on...

Well.... Ill try to be more active...(DAMN AOL)

Is this still going or not?

Looks bad :(

tsk tsk tsk... You never should have left...

at least were back at school so we cant go on vaction or anything
so were stuck!!!!:eek: so start programing

I don't want to be a smartass or something and talk into your project but here some suggestions:

The first thing I think you should do is that everybody who wants to help and knows he has enough time posts and gives some of the following information (I haven't thought about that very long so I guess there might be things to leave out and there will be more things to add most likely)
-How much time he/she is able to spend on the project per week.
-A small self assassment
-some points where he want's to be involved (ie networking, graphics engine, story writing or whatever)

The next thing you should do is decide for a at least temporal project coordinator. Not to decide on all of the gameplay questions, but to assign jobs... than you might think about a more democratic way of leading the project, but I think it's a good thing if no more than 3 people have a tight grip on the project better less...

and than
-start programming little pieces to look at the technologies you want to use
-make some fakescreenshots
-make some little test artworks
-think about the gameplay (I think you allready have that part somewhat)

now make up some conventions for working better in the team and start putting things together...

Here here.

Yep, your TOW Neighbors have 2 manager people (Sas, and Jorj), and that has worked really well.

Z.

wildcard self-assement: time: allot Skill: bad
Will (try to) do: whatever yall tell me

It certainly has. If you'd like to know what has and hasn't worked for us, just ask. We're all available for help, I think :)

Agree. We are all here =).

Z.

Thx for the help in advance:)

Have you produced anything yet ?
I'd be interested to see if you have ...

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Originally posted by plenderj
Have you produced anything yet ?
I'd be interested to see if you have ...

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Me too.

None what so ever unfortunately i have all my time taken up on other things now, so i dont think i will come areound here as much as i used to... BTW the NEW project im working on is at:
http://www.alltom.com/flame
if any of you wanna check it out for me :P just post there what you think about it...

BTW neighbors, thanks for the advice, if we do get the team back together, then ill definatley point that out :D :cool: ;) :p

So who all is still here?

I had to laugh when I got the notify that someone posted here.
Flame was one of the guys who were supposed to program, he said he does something else, and most of the others just didn't show up here anymore. I guess no one really want this project to live on or better no one wants to do something himself to let this project live on.
Well would be fun to see some guys here telling me I am wrong!

oh i wish i could tell you that you are wrong, but, as you (should have) said it, no one really gives a damn any more... I would like to get the team back together, but we never really got eachother's email's:(

i'm not sure we had the collective knowledge to make such a game like we had planned

lol, Collectively (in collectively, I mean the programmers, and the people making tow) we did have the knowledge to make the game we were after. I'd really like to start on it again. I just need other people to help out too, cause I know there is no way in hell that one person could program something this size by them self.

It was nice reading every single post from the beginning of the project and I'm kinda sad that no one is working on it anymore :(

I hope that it will be completed someday.

I just started reading these posts like 10 minutes ago and they started to interest me.....

Many people think that the best RPGs are made in C++. I've played 3 RPGs made in VB and they were the best!

I'm so sad to see this project dissolve to dust. :( I you ever start it up again talk to me...

I wanna help....

Well if you guys restart and are interested in a database being developed in MS Access or SQL Server(I would just write the script) and then either a DLL or ActiveX Server being developed to access the db and provide input/output, let me know.

The best RPGs are made in C++...finito

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The best RPGs are made in C++...finito

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Yes they are, but even better ones can be made in Visual Basic.:)

Well, recently, ive been browsing the internet, and found this forum on Zelda 3 MMORPG.
I also noticed that it died, without ever really starting, i didn't read all the posts.
Well, the reason im posting here is because I have created a Zelda MMORPG.
You can find it at Links of the Realm, it is growing rapidly. at least 10 new accounts each day. Also i used the playerworlds MMORPG engine, its not a great engine, but it'll work til i complete mine, which will do what yours never did. If any of the original posters are still alive and wanna check it out, visit the site. The site is crappy, but its a temp til i have some time to create a better one. Also, if you do come on look for me Admin, Link or ChrisR872. If im not logged on look for one of the devs, just ask and someone will show you. It gets really busy around noon Eastern USA Times. Hope to see some of you on my game.
Cheers

Chris

PS: The engine was made using Visual Basic