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Like what? Can you make a crude drawing in Paint or something just so I can get an idea of what you would like?Quote:
Originally posted by Andreas@ALSoft
Any Flash/PhotoShop stuff ready yet? (for the Website)
BTW: Do you like my webdesign (just about Layout and Navigation)
http://www.alsoft.f2s.com/revolutionnetwork
A small tip:
When you have the communication protocol finished of the msn-alike app. You can use PHP to create a webmessaging system too, so that people can also send msg's from the site itself.
This system is aimed for users that are in other countries on vacation and stuff and want to be in contact with the homefront :-)
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I wondered if you guys thought about msg queuing or not (ICQ) or just the Only-message-when-online style like MSN,AIM and soforth ?
Also, if you are going to make a welcome screen that is HTML-Based, do not try to use the IE OCX version, but create your own html parser. This way the application stays small.
Thats all ;)
That would be more of a b**** to write than the supporting server for the IM. But since I'm the graphics/UI man, that doesn't really matter. :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by Devion
Also, if you are going to make a welcome screen that is HTML-Based, do not try to use the IE OCX version, but create your own html parser. This way the application stays small.
Not as b*tchy as to try to use a IE OCX when you are using Navigator :-)
I don't want a dependency to IE anywhere at all, mostly because we're not licensed to distribute it and I actually want this project to be almost completely legal. :D
Almost legal.. nice =D
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Btw..
I'm still interested in helping ;)
Who's butt do i have to kick to get in on this :)
But as "lite" already sais it's not as good as the version of vBulletin used on vbForums
Due to this I'll leave the old Forum uploaded, too.
BTW: I gonna put a poll on the temp. site where you can submit your idea of a name for the service and select which one you like best.
Agreed, it is gonna be 100% legal.Quote:
Originally posted by filburt1
I don't want a dependency to IE anywhere at all, mostly because we're not licensed to distribute it and I actually want this project to be almost completely legal. :D
<Network> Today will be the welcome page, which is updated frequently. I don't actually want to use HTML much, either.
Ask the oh holy leader, also known as j2k. :) He'll probably copy this text: Sure! What would you like to work on? :pQuote:
Originally posted by Devion
Almost legal.. nice =D
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Btw..
I'm still interested in helping ;)
Who's butt do i have to kick to get in on this :)
My basic work on the home screen:
http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=517389
Not very smart to use that lill' slogan btw. Microsoft will sue us asap ;) ("What would you like to do today?")
Well.. as a response to filburt1...
I know:
- Adobe photoshop
- Macromedia Dreamweaver
- Visual Basic (Winsock, DX, creating DX games and stuff)
- Webdesign (take a look at http://www.clanpoint.net/secret/news.php) Note: I created the design and worked it out in php. (Notepad XP rulez) :)
- Project management
So... i can work on any area which needs attention :P
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I took the liberty to also make a gui like filburt did, only i added a small logo that could get us all into jail :D
but the point is that you need to make a (for the gui designers) contrast of colors that is recognisable but not infrigement (like Send IM is a bit copyrighted if i'm not mistaken)
http://www.clanpoint.net/msn.jpg
Christ, just take over the project why don't you. :p
*grin*.. i could but i won't ;)
It's better to team up then to find a team that wants to work with ya... (been there, done that and got the scars to prove it) :p
Since our illustrious leader is nowhere to be seen at the moment, I propose three different teams or subprojects:
Server-side
Client
Web
The web is probably the easiest part, and the server should be extremely painful. :) In fact for speed, the server should probably be written in C++, especially because you can multithread better in it.
<Pants out of breath> I'm here! I'm here!
The main interface will look similar to
http://www.vbforums.com/
Devion - to your request to join the project: Sure! What would you like to work on? :p
I presume there is documentation build of each seperate projects modules to be created?
- What does it do?
- How it communicates with other subsystems
- Who works on it
You know.. that stuff :)
Comments are the spawn of satan! They add kbs to the project files (which we all must cart around to each other once the slightest update has occured)
They have invented CVS for that 'carting' around ya know =)
or create a own source archival/repository. though that is a whole new project on itself =)
btw, I also wondered if the team has a irc channel or something similiar ?
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Originally posted by Devion
btw, I also wondered if the team has a irc channel or something similiar ?
No we don't. All online collaboration is done via Yahoo Messenger.
It is not easier to create a irc channel so meetings can be held all together?
I know i'm dumping a lot of ideas towards ya but it's benetifial ;) - if correctly applied though -
No it's not, as my router blocks DCC transfers, I bet most people don't have mIRC etc installed, and for the meeting tools, Yahoo and NetMeeting are the best choice. Sorry, no IRC.
(you can configure routers ya know ;))
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but its no prob though, though one of my first questions is still unanswered which was pretty important..
are there design documents?
It could be something like the one for PassProg, detailed with a hint of bad humor. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Devion
I presume there is documentation build of each seperate projects modules to be created?
- What does it do?
- How it communicates with other subsystems
- Who works on it
You know.. that stuff :)
http://www.liquid2k.com/filburt1/oth...onhistory.html
Thats a version/todo-done list :)
what i'm talking about is more how certain things are build up
Per subproject;
Who works on them
Current bugs
Current Todo's
Priority of project
Last Updated
Version and Revision
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What does this subproject do
What does it interact with
and preferably even a flowchart describing how it fits in the whole view :-)
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Did i just go above someone's head? please hold yur hand up if so =)
Well, j2k is project leader, so the master plan is up to him. :p :p I know what you're talking about, I've worked with Java programmers. :)
Well it's pretty simple...
As most peoples intentions are to make this product go online (and who knows, even make money on it if you get a real load of people to use it)... (well.. ICQ started the same way so...)
You just have to make sure that the application has no real flaws and that is user-friendly to the max.
And to be that way you have to code proffesionally, or atleast write down what has to be done, how its done and when the coder is busy that it documents all its progress and if it finds bugs that he or she can't fix that he or she documents them too (really, some people dont document that since they are embarresed that they cant fix it themselves).
Also, always keep a backup of each source (but i think you guys already do that ;)
With extra emphasis on the ;). :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by Devion
Also, always keep a backup of each source (but i think you guys already do that ;)
8PM BST on Saturday anyone?
*grin*
Nah, it wasn't meant sarcastic... well.. a bit.. i presume you guys do that (if people ***** up the code and stuff) :)
Tell me again why we're using evil Yahoo? What was wrong with MSN?
It's microsoft and the other reasons you should know since yur working on (quoting yur own footer) "The MSN Replacement" :-D
I hate Yahoo even more than MS. They tried to put adware and change my browser settings. :mad:
So, what's the word, illustrius leader?
=)
j2k, if you have some sort of design document of the app, can you send it or something...
do I have to sign a NDA somewhere? ;-)
Jeez, you and your professional-fake-sounding jargon. :D :D
*grin*
well it works ain't it? =D
We need a name! We can't do any real Photoshop or Flash work in it! Seriously, what's wrong with "The Project?"
MSNmessenger.net screwed up MSN Messenger, so soz no MSN.
Filburt... Let me answer your question by posing another.. What is GOOD about "The Project"?!
It sounds like a codename. Codenames are cool. :)
MSN works fine for me...
Just look at other names and just look on what makes them special....
You got AIM - (Which is also a word, so easily remembered)
You got ICQ - (I seek U, so It's relevant)
You got MSN - Which sounds reasonably good and it's M$ :)
so...
Think up something thats around 3 letters and sounds good short and long version ;)
and imho.. "The project" sux as a (project)name :P