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Smells bad, too.
Trump's team tried hard after both 2016 and 2020, to come up with evidence of voter fraud. They went to court over 60 times, but once they got in there, where they had to show evidence to back up their claims, they stated that they were not asserting fraud. Those court records were public from the start, but since they aren't Youtube videos, Dil probably hasn't seen them. So, the people who were paid to find evidence couldn't find a single thing that they were willing to back up with even flimsy evidence. With nothing to go on aside from "making stuff up", they have fallen back on that.
Voting in the US is decentralized. It isn't run by the federal government, but by individual states who follow whatever rules they have come up with. Those aren't standardized, either. That means that the claims of fraud are almost offensively ignorant because it would require so MANY people to be involved or else it would both have no impact AND be blatantly obvious. To even make it slightly hidden, it would require spreading the fraud across a whole lot of voting precincts, which would require an absurd number of people to be involved (and they'd have to have kept utterly silent ever since). For even that to matter, the same would have to have been spread across numerous states, some of which would have required Republicans to be involved. All this, and they couldn't come up with a single thing, so they lie about it.
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Are you going to off on another tangent then than say "I don't want to debate it in the name of peace?". Post #143
No......
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Probably pretty dark in there.
And he can see his own teeth
I find it a wonderful twist that Dil (and others in some chats I've come across so it's obviously a talking point) is now saying that "missing" Dem votes are evidence of fraud in 2020, because back then they were loudly declaring that "missing" Rep votes were evidence of fraud. Personally, I can only conclude that Biden's 2020 victory MUST, therefore, be evidence a Republican plot in 2016... only logical conclusion.
(The Copa-Cola seems to flow freely among the MAGA base, even when they're winning)
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Also, the gap between the two in the popular vote is down to around 4 million, and is likely to drop even further. It might even reverse. The states that still have a substantial outstanding ballot count are large population, strongly blue, states.
Zero chance that the end result is a popular vote loss. He's still up by just under 4 million votes. Harris is winning California by 2.2 million votes with 72% in, according to CNN. Extrapolating that to 100% and being generous, it might be 3.2 million all said and done. The other states with votes out might collectively end up closing in on the lead by a few hundred thousand at best. Also, there are some red states that are still counting according to CNN's map. I would expect in the end he will win the popular vote by at least 2 million votes, maybe closer to 2.5 million.
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In the aftermath of every presidential election in the last four or five decades, the party that win made claims that they had an unassailable mandate that would keep them in power forever. Cheney even talked about a "permanent Republican majority".
This was an economic election. Trump has the morals and character of a pig, and most people acknowledge that, even those that voted for him, but they still felt he would bring them better economic times. He's the only president to have never had an
approval rating that reached 50% since measurement began.
If he trashes the economy, the way he has promised to do, he'll tank just as he did last time.
However, when it comes to "game over", that's what people are afraid of. Trump has talked about subverting democracy, as have the people around him.
I do find it rather telling that there was an increase in google searches for the word "tariff" after the election, seems a bit late for people to be doing their research really... https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...ariff&hl=en-US
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No......
If you haven't already read back and seen how many times that post is directly referenced in a negative way and generating negatively related responses...in the name of peace :rolleyes:
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As we Niyaze , this will make him happy:
Trump Demands Congress to Secure All Evidence of Censorship!
https://x.com/Jerone4Congress/status...ea3cea4ce97%2F
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That's funny. Whether it actually happens we'll have to wait and see. But it is a little late to be checking what tariffs are. lol
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That sure does subvert democracy/
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It's funny watching that old gargoyle James Carville gnawing his own fur off. Lately he's cursing the DNC, PBS and the networks, and the electorate for decades of divisive identity politics. He uses stronger words himself.
Not that he wants any policy change, he'd only change the marketing of the globalist authoritarianism Dems want. A philosophy barely distinguishable from that of a certain vegetarian, anti-smoking, failed painter.
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a certain vegetarian, anti-smoking, failed painter
Ah, the hypocrisy is strong with one.
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Ah, the hypocrisy is strong with one.
lol
No kidding.
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At least Mike Rogers lost his Senate seat. He's probably worse than the opponent he lost to. Tough call on that, but he needed to go.
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It's a start. :D
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Trump is making some real interesting choices for top positions. Gaetz as Attorney General, there's a guys that should be familiar with that position. lol
Looks like the "good ol boy" of government will be going strong for the next few years.
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Yeah, if your gonna use that word, you need to provide the definition. lol
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No you don't :rolleyes: lol
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Trump is making some real interesting choices for top positions. Gaetz as Attorney General, there's a guys that should be familiar with that position. lol
Looks like the "good ol boy" of government will be going strong for the next few years.
As far as I see it the US have shifted seriously to the right. All the rest of us have to strap in and do what we can to speak up.
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No the country has not moved to the center, they've merely been heard again this time around.
But maybe CNN will offer people those dunce caps they're wearing post-election. Van Jones will probably be selling them as part of his new Signature Collection product line.
"Crazy" has lost on every policy position.
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So, now we have a guy who has boasted about assaulting women, who a jury of his peers felt was more likely than not to have raped one woman, and now he's nominated a guy who's best defense was, "I thought she was over 18."
The party of "family values" has sold it's morals for power. Now it's selling everything else it can find.
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So, now we have a guy who has boasted about assaulting women, who a jury of his peers felt was more likely than not to have raped one woman, and now he's nominated a guy who's best defense was, "I thought she was over 18."
The party of "family values" has sold it's morals for power. Now it's selling everything else it can find.
It was kind of you not to mention his recent fraud conviction. :cool:
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As far as I see it the US have shifted seriously to the right. All the rest of us have to strap in and do what we can to speak up.
I'd say the government has shifted seriously to the right. The final vote tally will be @ 50% Trump and 48% Harris. So I don't see a major shift in the people.
But I agree that is probably going to be a very rough ride. Especially for civil rights, equality and the economy.
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I'd say the government has shifted seriously to the right. The final vote tally will be @ 50% Trump and 48% Harris. So I don't see a major shift in the people.
But I agree that is probably going to be a very rough ride. Especially for civil rights, equality and the economy.
Looks like a red shift to me...
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It was kind of you not to mention his recent fraud conviction.
...Or the theft of National Security Documents...
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It funny that after all these years sane people are the majority (OK just for avoid misunderstandings.. :p ) so tell us how does it fell for USAiers to be on the other side for a change?
Are you feeling alright? Are you packing food and ammo? What do you expect from your life to change for the worse in the years to come? To catch up on wes, these are serious questions till the answers are also serious.
Edit. To talk about Greece, two persons, the foreign minister and one more I forget now are supposed to be against Turkey, so if we manage to clear out the traitor politicians we could be drilling for oil after.
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It was kind of you not to mention his recent fraud conviction. :cool:
All 34 felonies, not just one.
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Are you packing food and ammo?
Well, DUH!! It IS the US, after all.
I kept trying to think up a joke about this, but the rest of the world probably looks at our habits with slack-jawed disbelief already. It's hard to find a joke to be made there. Heck, I live in Mormon country, where stockpiling food is mandated by their religion.
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What do you expect from your life to change for the worse in the years to come? To catch up on wes, these are serious questions till the answers are also serious.
I expect a recession. Of course, I've been expecting a recession for years. The number of times inflation has been brought down without a recession can be counted on half the thumbs of one hand. The big question in my mind is what Trump will do with tariffs. From a global economic standpoint, that's likely the biggest question. The US is still the largest economy by a fair margin. Tariffs will be met with retaliation, and we have seen what that type of policy does globally, but nobody really knows whether Trump will (or can, for that matter) impose tariffs, and how high.
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I think , but quote on me as I might be wrong, that Trump did have phone calls before with Russia and China as to what the global goods distribution would be.
Also if I'm not mistaken the tariffs are for p.e. cars that are imported as a whole but I think, again, quote me if I am wrong that the final assembly on many car brands are done in US or non chinamexicoeurope countries.
Also Germany is bricking bricks right now so I think they will follow Trump as a good puppy.
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Trump has talked about tariffs across the board, with higher tariffs on Chinese goods. There ARE high tariffs on Chinese cars, currently, which seems a bit odd to me. Normally, the US keeps out foreign cars just using safety standards. Did Chinese cars meet those standards?
The tariffs on Chinese cars are such that they aren't sold here. Mexico is a different matter, since there is a trade agreement (which Trump signed) with them. One of the various things Trump said was that he'd put 20% tariffs on everything. I kind of think he won't, but if he did, then inflation in the US should jump dramatically.
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I think I saw the statement on a TV channel said 10% but I might be wrong.
Also we should wait as it might be a cat and mouse play.
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Trump has talked about tariffs across the board, with higher tariffs on Chinese goods. There ARE high tariffs on Chinese cars, currently, which seems a bit odd to me. Normally, the US keeps out foreign cars just using safety standards. Did Chinese cars meet those standards?
The tariffs on Chinese cars are such that they aren't sold here. Mexico is a different matter, since there is a trade agreement (which Trump signed) with them. One of the various things Trump said was that he'd put 20% tariffs on everything. I kind of think he won't, but if he did, then inflation in the US should jump dramatically.
He did say "To me the most beautiful word in the dictionary is ‘tariff".
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I think I saw the statement on a TV channel said 10% but I might be wrong.
Also we should wait as it might be a cat and mouse play.
No, you aren't wrong. He's said that, too. That's one of the reasons I am uncertain about the future. He started with one number, then seemed to think, "if a little is good, then more would be better." It doesn't seem like something he can do anyways, as the executive can't impose a tax, but both he and Biden appear to have unilaterally imposed some tariffs. I don't know the rules around this one.
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Of course now the establishment duopoly is doing as much damage as it can before they get ousted.
Look at the ludicrous repealing of Social Security GPO and WEP provisions. Nothing like handing back a benefit intended for low-wage earners to douches who didn't pay into the system. Just for good measure it undermines the solvency of the system even more.
But even if it passes and the Dodderer In Chief signs off on it, this attempt to buy future votes of greedy scum will most likely be rolled back come 2025.
I guess we know who doesn't give a damn about the working poor or the Social Security system. These idiots, their clients, and their "Unfairness Act."
Contrast this with the unfounded and barely theoretical "Trump will eliminate Social Security" that the "sleep your way to the top" campaign kept spouting.
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It funny that after all these years sane people are the majority (OK just for avoid misunderstandings.. ) so tell us how does it fell for USAiers to be on the other side for a change?
Are you feeling alright? Are you packing food and ammo? What do you expect from your life to change for the worse in the years to come? To catch up on wes, these are serious questions till the answers are also serious.
I can't remember a time when sane people weren't the majority so I can't answer the question
As for my life, as I've said before, this will have very little effect on me. Unless Trump completely crashes the economy but I'm not convinced that's going to happen.
But I do have children, grand children and great grand children. I'd like them to live in a world with less hate, racism and more equality. I see Trump moving the world in the opposite direction.
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I can't remember a time when sane people weren't the majority so I can't answer the question
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I don't know.. The middle ages?The Roman expansion? The Woke ages?
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I don't know.. The middle ages?The Roman expansion? The Woke ages?
The middle ages and the Roman expansion have nothing to do with who's sane and weren't controlled by the majority.
As for "woke ages" , I wouldn't say the term "woke" has been around long enough to call it an age. I also don't thing you know what that term means. It certainly isn't an indicator of someones sanity. You might want to look up the definition.
But like you said "I don't know".
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The Spanish Inquisition?
That always reminds me of "The History of the World: Part 1". lol
