its not that easy to crash a plane into a building like that let alone the water sprinker!!!!
its not that easy to crash a plane into a building like that let alone the water sprinker!!!!
Have you noticed that all these disasters have been happening in September? 9-19: Waco, OKC Bombing, A few days later, Columbine. I was 15 min away from the OKC Bombing when I was in the service ... Todays Date: 9-11
They just reported starting death counts: 266 dead thus far ...
I think me means all the CityQuote:
Originally posted by chenko
not all of london!
I don't think that the water sprinklers could have prevent something...
Engineer here said that heat could have cause steel to expand, thus shortening the weight capacity (then it all came down). What a ****ing shame.
Another middle east paper
http://english.planetarabia.com/
It might help to remember that these guys are also describing it as a Terrorist attack and a tragedy. Not all Arabs are responsible for this, don't be tainted by the guys celebrating on t.v. I'm sure there are a lot who feel America's pain.
SD
well i call a mate there and it rang with no answer ?? :(Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
I think me means all the City
im sur eit was just canary warf and the stock exchange? ?
Bush to give statement from my home state Louisiana shortly.
I'm intruiged why they didn't go for the white house rather than the pentagon, which has now collapsed incidently.
Simon - yeah the City.
Rang with no answer? :eek: Well, if they're going to do the SE and CW then they might as well do the lot.
PS: Have you heard from Sam yet?
Lots of goverment buildings here in brussels have been cleared and several roads have been cut-off(to the nato hq, the palace and the american ambassy).
Umm... I would say there are at least 10,000 people dead. The towers were full and each hold on average 10,000 people. Both towers collapsed, so my guess would be 15,000 people dead.
I would think this would be the single largest terrorist attack ever.
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Originally posted by SurfDemon
Another middle east paper
http://english.planetarabia.com/
It might help to remember that these guys are also describing it as a Terrorist attack and a tragedy. Not all Arabs are responsible for this, don't be tainted by the guys celebrating on t.v. I'm sure there are a lot who feel America's pain.
SD
yes. People who talk **** should shut the **** up!
td.
Only part of it collapsed.Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
I'm intruiged why they didn't go for the white house rather than the pentagon, which has now collapsed incidently.
Eternal - yeah, you're probably right :(
they were evacuating city blocks around the towers because of gas leaks. that migth have been what caused the buildings to come down.
no, I forgot that she flew back into london this morning.... I tried calling earlier and her phone rang with no answer :(Quote:
Originally posted by parksie
Simon - yeah the City.
Rang with no answer? :eek: Well, if they're going to do the SE and CW then they might as well do the lot.
PS: Have you heard from Sam yet?
Part/all either way it's fu cked upQuote:
Originally posted by parksie
Only part of it collapsed.
aparently there was a car bomb on capitol hill.
td.
Hopefully the second tower was evacuated (due to the first crash) by the time the second plane hit.
SD
damn, i cant remember if it was today or tommorow!? :(Quote:
Originally posted by chenko
no, I forgot that she flew back into london this morning.... I tried calling earlier and her phone rang with no answer :(
If thats the State Dept one, then , no, its turned out that it didn't occur, a false report.
Sadly I don't think it is pysically possible to evactuate 25000 people in 5 mintes, especially in a building of that design.Quote:
Originally posted by SurfDemon
Hopefully the second tower was evacuated (due to the first crash) by the time the second plane hit.
SD
Bit of trivia. Today is the anniversary of the Camp David Accord. A US/Isreal Peace treaty.
How long between crashes. have heard conflictiung reports (18mins to 1 hour). Does anyone have the time?
SD
It was 18 min or so. 8:50 was the first one then around 9:08 for the second.
They had about an hour to evac before the collapses, but, stillQuote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
Sadly I don't think it is pysically possible to evactuate 25000 people in 5 mintes, especially in a building of that design.
your right. The Stairwells were jammed.
Some jumped to their deaths, trying to evac.
Did not here what floors they jumped from, nor how they expected to survive the jump.
Those were the Explosions/Plane Crashings.Quote:
Originally posted by ExcalibursZone
It was 18 min or so. 8:50 was the first one then around 9:08 for the second.
See the AniGif in My Previous post for Time Line.
Maybe they just went stir crazy? People do weird things when they have no control over their situation and will do ANYTHING to do something that involves a decision.
Some people jumped from the observation deck.
astronauts from international space station can see the smoke from the WTC.
I sincerely doubt we will have any trouble getting more spending for military defense.
It's really really sad to watch a couple jumping off the window with their hands still tied together..
I guess, the death toll is 50 thousand....mostly due to the panic.
just heard that this happend one day before the sentencing of the guy that did it in 1998 (that attacked the WTC) and he was an Islamic getting the death sentence.
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Originally posted by EternalKnight
Some people jumped from the observation deck.
jesus!
td.
damn i couldnt do that!
Firey burning death or jumping? Your choice, both end in the same way. Those that jumped were probably so panicked that they didn't think.
That's a **** of a long way!Quote:
Originally posted by tumblingdown
jesus!
td.
Simon - that's what you think right now, and I don't think I could either. However, who knows what panicked people do :(
Oh, and if anyone still believes in God...reality check for you :rolleyes:
I just watched the towers crumble on Sky News. You may have been luckier if you jumped.
Damn shame. Unbelievable what people are capable of.
True Mike, But i would prefer to cram down the stairs and save myself than jumping to save myself ! :(Quote:
Originally posted by parksie
That's a **** of a long way!
Simon - that's what you think right now, and I don't think I could either. However, who knows what panicked people do :(
Oh, and if anyone still believes in God...reality check for you :rolleyes:
TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 11 2001
Chronology of events
1:45 plane crashes into one tower of World Trade Centre
2:05 plane crashes into second tower of World Trade Centre live on television
2:13 reports of plane hijacking before attacks
2:23 US official says attacks were terrorist-related
2:32 President Bush speaking from Florida calls it "apparent terrorist attack" and pledged to "hunt down" those responsible
2:35 Palestinian Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) claims responsibility on Abu Dhabi television
2:43 the Pentagon is evacuated
2:44 plane crashes into the Pentagon
2:45 West Wing of White House evacuated
2:52 two further explosions rock the Pentagon
2:52 State Department is evacuated
2:52 all aircraft grounded across the US
2:54 official from Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine denies group was responsible for the attacks
3:00 staff at United Nations headquarters evacuated to the basement
3:01 reports of another explosion hitting building near World Trade Centre
3:02 southern tower of World Trade Centre collapses
3:11 two explosions hit Pentagon
3:15 London stock exchange plunges in afternoon trading
3:17 Tony Blair says he is "terribly shocked"
3:18 Lionel Jospin, the French Prime Minister, says he is "horrified"
3:21 oil prices rise to more than $30 per barrel in London
3:23 President Vladimir Putin of Russia calls the attacks "terrible tragedies"
3:26 car bomb explodes outside State Department, officials report
3:26 Israel offers aid to US
3:30 second Trade Centre tower collapses
3:31 buildings across America are evacuated
3:32 price of gold surges
3:39 large plane crashes in western Pennsylvania, 80 miles from Pittsburgh
3:46 Palestinian leader Yassir Arafat condemns the attacks
3:47 reports of another aircraft heading towards Washington
3:50 London Stock Exchange evacuates
4:15 Reports of the European Parliament in Brussels being evacuated
4.30 Evacuation of Lower Manhattan begins
5.00 Reports of blood shortages in New York hospitals
5.15 New York National Guard activated
- All times BST