FORUM ISSUES: Report Upgraded Issues in this thread

The forum has been very erratic from my side, slow and often pages will not load or require several attempts. The same thing is happening on Code Guru which was upgraded before this site. Many times when I try to post a quick reply I will get a message askign if I want to navigate away from this page and other times I do not. Sometimes it posts and stays there on the edit page making it look as though it did not post which leads to double posts other times it just hangs and will not go back to the thread or I get a db error.

In general the forums were much better before the update. I hope it gets sorted soon and if not then May be a good idea to revert back to the former software which worked pretty well.

Today has been absolutely terrible! Way to many database errors and timeouts :[

Just when you think you've seen it all, today Post Quick Reply posts the message (after enough time to defeat an entire army of hideous creatures from the polluted lagoon) but also takes you to the advanced editor where you have the opportunity to see your message all over again and double post to your heart's content! Surely there's been enough time to realise that this just isn't going to get any better and either find a new solution that actually works or just go back to the less beautiful but solidly functional way it was! Did nobody read the definition?

Upgrade, n. the process by which, at considerable additional expense, the software developer responsible for your hair loss and general anxiety offers to replace all the bugs you have now learned to work around with a new crop of the mysterious, unsolvable and bizarre leading to psychotic breakdowns and (if you're lucky) stress induced death.

Definition of an upgrade: Remove old bugs and install all new ones.

-tg

That's interesting when clicking on the link to view a thread it seems to go to the last post made after your last visit to a thread instead of the last page of the thread itself.

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Originally Posted by DataMiser

....if not then May be a good idea to revert back to the former software which worked pretty well.

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Id like that but the amount of internal changes they must have made to facilitate the changes might make going back just as painful as going forward even more so. Its probably best to just stick it out until they iron out all the kinks.

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Originally Posted by Niya

Id like that but the amount of internal changes they must have made to facilitate the changes might make going back just as painful as going forward even more so. Its probably best to just stick it out until they iron out all the kinks.

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It's been over a month and, if anything, it's actually getting kinkier! How long are we expected to endure a site that navigates like we were still using 56k dial-up (if you're old enough to remember those days you'll know what I mean!)

Actually sometimes I think a 56k connection would be faster ;) I just tryied to post in the Vb.Net area and got that popup saying Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page, clicked yes and waited 3 1/2 minutes watching the little progress bar creep across the bottom with no change to the screen. Finally I clicked the stop button and went back to the forum area wondering if my post was actually posted or not. It was but this seems to happen a lot with this new software.

I really am starting to wish the forum would have stayed as it was, this new stuff is a major pain.

Scenario:

Some doofy member mistakes this for a social media site and wants to glom onto you like a limpet by "requesting you be a friend."

Problem:

You go through the agony of numerous failed page loads and funky navigation script that falls over repeatedly and you finally get to the place to reject it.

Then you click on the "submit change" button - sometimes it does nothing, sometimes you get some wacky Mac-style hourglass animation... and then nothing.

Rinse, Repeat

[strike]Doofy's "friend" request is still there. Still a hung "notification" as well.[/strike]

Got it, gone now.

Still receiving that "Database Error" message!

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Originally Posted by Nightwalker83

Still receiving that "Database Error" message!

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lol I just got one clicking "view first unread" which was your post.

i notice that brad and other reps no longer post any response here

have they just given up?

will this response actually make a post?

We have more than one thread going now. It is true that I've not responded within all of them, but if you look, you'll see I'm posting somewhat regularly.


And no - nobody has given up on getting things fixed. Still working on it.

I received "Database Error" messages left and right today... Forum is very much unusable as it is right now. I wish that they roll back to the old version...

On an upside, I noticed that the highlight tags look fixed ;]

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Something I noticed today was that my settings isn't keeping up with the subscriptions. Like I've noticed a few post today where it there was an updated post in a thread that I'd posted in, yet it wasn't showing up in my settings. That's not good for me because I basically navigate mainly from my settings.

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Originally Posted by stanav

I received "Database Error" messages left and right today... Forum is very much unusable as it is right now. I wish that they roll back to the old version...

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I was unable to log in late last night for several hours because of that. I was able to navigate the site but every time I tried to log in, I kept getting "Database Error". There's been a resurgence of this error recently. It happens quite frequently now.

[Deleted Double Post]

Ok this is really bordering on unusable. A while ago I made a post in a thread and when I did it just froze on submit waiting for the website to respond. I wasn't sure it was actually posted until I went back to the thread on another browser tab. I also had to make a number of edits to the post and each time I submitted it, it froze the same way. It was really excruciating and on top of that, the last edit I made didn't go through, so its not as if I can get used to it as its unpredictable, you never know if it would post or not. I actually have to save posts in Word before pressing submit for fear I'd lose them to a time out or database error. I may have to limit any posts I make here for a while to simple 1-3 line posts, an acceptable loss as it takes only a few seconds to a couple minutes to compose such posts.

And another strange thing is that my post didn't bump the thread. I can see the post when I enter the thread but outside, its as if I never posted.

Please please you guys fix it soon. I'm sure yall are doing your best but this is fast becoming unusable at its current performance.

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Oh god :mad:....even posting this is frustrating....after making me wait like 20 seconds, it just went to advanced because it said I had to wait 30 seconds between posts....my last post before this like 10 minutes ago.

20 seconds is not bad actually I have saw it take up to 4 minutes :(

I've saw that frozen behaviour several times over the last several days both on posting and other times when trying to open a thread or the settings page or pretty much anything other times it works fine. Same with the edits sometimes they go right through other times it will hang and of those times sometimes the post is updated with the changes where other times it is not.

Do you have the vBulletin team still fixing it? I think the forum was updated more than a month ago. But the main performance issues are not yet resolved completely.

I think, you guys could sue vBulletin for providing a buggy forum software !

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I think, you guys could sue vBulletin for providing a buggy forum software !

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You sound like you're American, are you sure you're from India :p

Oh god, I give up.....every time I post, its taking forever to acknowledge and I can't even be sure it posted. Sometimes it posts and switches to advanced mode telling me that I need to wait 30 seconds(in effect its double posting). Sometimes it just sits there waiting and you have to switch to a new tab and navigate back to the thread to see if the post was successful. These things used to happen like 1 in every 5 posts, which I'm prepared to tolerate but now its happening with every post, since the last 24 hours. I've been also getting database errors with great frequency. Its like the first week of the upgrade. I'm trying but this is really unusable. I'm gonna take a lil break(from posting at least, navigation is still fairly usable) and give the guys time to work out these issues.

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Originally Posted by dday9

You sound like you're American, are you sure you're from India :p

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Too much coffee makes me talk like that :afrog:

I noticed something while posting a thread in the codebank today. If you use the numerical or bullet list, or as well as adding an attachment or image, the post scrolls all the way to the top. Usually it's not a problem because I don't usually post long things, but in the case of posting a codebank thread I was getting lost in my bullet points because I couldn't read which one I previously posted.

Just noticed the search function is off with the totals! Instead of the total being fixed it increases with every page you click in the current search.

I noticed another intermitten issue this morning where when I went to a forum area and the listing of posts was not formatted correctly. I got just a text display where the post info that would normally be all on one line was about 3 or 5 lines and difficult to read. I saw this once when I selected the VB6 area here and had the same thing happen once this morning on code guru.

I've had another problem today with the forum. When I posted in a thread, it didn't go to the top of the subforum as well as not showing up in "new post". In fact the last thread posted was at 9:45 and it's actually 10:30. But even though it's not showing up at the top of the subforum, it is showing as the last post in the mainview(the page when you navigate to vbforums.com). That's annoying, I can forsee a few new members getting teed off that their post isn't showing up.

Everything seems to be based on SEARCH - NEW POSTS is that way - SUBSCRIBED threads is that way.

I don't trust the search. I've seen it not "include" everything I know it should...

Actually I pretty much don't look around the forums much anymore at all - sad...

the last version of vBulletin worked OK.
i really can't see any advantage in this prematurely released buggy version...

We never run the latest version — this one has been out for over a year.

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Originally Posted by .paul.

the last version of vBulletin worked OK.
i really can't see any advantage in this prematurely released buggy version...

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Very much so agreed.

We never run the latest version — this one has been out for over a year.

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Originally Posted by .paul.

the last version of vBulletin worked OK.
i really can't see any advantage in this prematurely released buggy version...

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Very much so agreed.

Edit - In fact it has taken me over a minute and a half just to get this posted.

lol both penagate and my post's were double post.

Seems I have been seeing formatting issues more often the last couple of days, at first I thought it was the thread listing but it is the settings page that keeps giving me formatting issues. The area where it would normally show the menu bar and then the list of subscribed threads are showing up as you may expect in plain text mode. Usually if I hit refresh the page will reload with the correct formatting. Prior to the weekend I had only saw this once but over the last 3 days have saw it several times and a few times on the code guru site as well.

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Originally Posted by .paul.

the last version of vBulletin worked OK.
i really can't see any advantage in this prematurely released buggy version...

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vBulletin.com runs a later version(same major version though) and it works superbly. The software itself isn't buggy, its just this implementation of it.

And now it's really broken! the toolbar in the quick reply area is missing... no, that's not right... it's there... it's the button images that's missing... the tooltips work, so that's something... but the menu that's supposed to be on the upper right where it says "Welcome" and has links to notifications, and settings (which I use A LOT!) have wandered off and are now hiding underneath the ad up at the top, making them unusable... what is it about VBF that's so different from CG that we get all these problems and they don't?

-tg

I have the dev's loking into this.

Brad!

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Originally Posted by brad jones

I have the dev's loking into this.

Brad!

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omg - it's dropping double o's now...

Lok out!

:)

Unless they were "loking" phasers and it's a "ck" issue...

The reputation and report icons to the left of every post is now invisible. Looks like the guys were probably playing around with the CSS or the HTML recently.

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Originally Posted by szlamany

omg - it's dropping double o's now...

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I dug dep into this isue and determined the rot of the problem is not the forum software, but one of the people using using it. I tok some time to talk to myself about the problem, and hope to not se it kep hapening....

Brad!

:D

Most of the client-side script has been broken for me today (none of the font/size/link/quote/etc. text entry/edit panel buttons working - most grayed out). Silly autosave seems to still be running though.

Site hardly stays up long enough to make the simplest post though. Let's see if this one gets through!

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Most of the client-side script has been broken for me today (none of the font/size/link/quote/etc. text entry/edit panel buttons working - most grayed out).

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Same here.

I also, I can't tell if somebody has all ready reported this, but it looks like there is something wrong with banner:
Attachment 91375

Oh good they fixed it...the icons are back!!

New issues introduced yesterday should now be fixed. A setting got changed that should not have.... :) It has been corrected.

Brad!

Well at least we they they are hard at work on this. That's good to know.:)

Seems to be working much better today, have not had a hang nor an error since I logged in the first time today. It even seems to be loading pages at a reasonable speed so far and with no missing icons or links :)

Don't really wanna get my hopes up as yet, but yea it works very well for the moment. :)

Hope this is permanent.

Yep...there is hope. I just used the Advanced editor to post to a thread and it submitted in about 3 seconds....something I haven't seen in weeks!!! Good work guys!!!!!

Oh God it works beautifully :D :D :D. As of this post, I've been here about 20 minutes now and its performance is superb!. Whatever you guys did it worked. Not a single delay when posting, no stall outs, no DB errors, just pure bliss....

@ Niya, there is no need to multiple post like that if the edit post button/link isn't broken use it.

Sorry, couldn't resist seeing posts go through so quickly for the first time in what seemed like forever :)

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Originally Posted by brad jones

I have the dev's loking into this.
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Well that's disappointing. Surely this magnitude of problem deserves the attention of the High King!

You;re a little late...site's been working great for about 8 hours now :)

Since the last change pages seem to load properly and completely, have not saw any instances where the page would load as plain text or with missing icons or slow to a crawl. Postings seems to be working smoothly again and have not saw that annoying popup where I had been seeing it very often. So far it seems to be working as it should.

Let's not say too much yet so that we don't jinx it..... ;) :D

Brad!

I assume the search facility is still not working? I searched for "FTP" and got no matches, which I know is wrong. Apologies if this is already covered elsewhere ...

Don't wanna tempt fate here now that the site's working great but is the member list going to be re-instated ?

I've asked Heidi to rebuild the search index. This is a very (very) long process to run as this forum is very (Very) large. It took nearly a week the last time we ran it. let's see if we can crank it faster this time and then see if that fixes the issues with search.

Brad!

Member list - let's let things run for a while. If the speed stays good, then we can turn the member list back on and see what happens.

Brad!