1.503's rolled to fix a (as yet undisclosed I think) critical security flaw.
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1.503's rolled to fix a (as yet undisclosed I think) critical security flaw.
1.5.0.4 is on the server too....guess it won't take long for it to be out..:)
:eek2:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20060501/tc_zd/177095
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Based on 85 advisories published by Secunia between 2003 and 2005, about 25 percent of IE bugs remain unpatched. More than 40 percent of those advisories are serious enough to be used in system compromise attacks.
Fx is so great, I'm going to bump this post!
**I actually just noticed the link in my sig and I decided to click it :blush: **
You know, I didnt even notice that this post is still active :eek:
And here I thought I was rummaging up old crap :(
Oh how true that statement is for this thread. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by kfcSmitty
We all know IE is #1 and will be more appearant when IE 7 releases its RTM build.
Yes we all know its NOT #1 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Did you bother to read the link? I see lots of IE security holes not getting fixed....
Yes, I agree
"we all know it isn't NOT #1"
Finally you agree. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sciguyryan
But like I posted, when its in its release to market build there will be vast improvements and new features that havent been presented to the general public either.
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Originally Posted by sevenhalo
Ok, I'm going to put this all into perspective and we can finally let this go...
Firefox is like a cult. IE is like an organized religion complete with wine and communion. Now lets say you don't like wine. IE provides an alternative of grape juice. Unfortunately some people don't think this is enough and would rather have the cult's punch. Sure we all like a glass of punch now and again; it's refreshing, light and makes you feel like a little kid on a summer's day. Little did you know the punch is going to kill you.
I hope we can all agree that we want to live and use IE. The choice is obvious.
Yes vast... how can you define something as vast when everything else already has those features and much more... vast has either changed meaning since I looked or its the wrong word to describe it... crap maybe :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
Oh if CC posts were Rep'able :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
You just need to wait and see. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sciguyryan
http://home.rochester.rr.com/lgsstatic/images/ff2.jpg
Considering all those nice security holes that are bing found it does not bode well for IE's future :PQuote:
Originally Posted by RobDog888
If it were not for Firefox you would not even have a 7 beta you'd still be using the just-as-crappy IE6 :P
You have more chance of being able to get the exact position of a particle and measure the exact speed of the particle sumultaneously than making IE better then Firefox and Opera :P
Just a note you can't ;)
Your logic makes no sense to me... Would the natural progression have been 6 to 8 if firefox hadn't shown up? Or would we have started using letters?Quote:
If it were not for Firefox you would not even have a 7 beta
Possibly roman numerals? Or maybe those wingdings no one uses.
They wouldnt have created anything because they wouldnt have had any competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
You missed the point completly. Someone people may have missed but there were no new versions fof IE for a LONG time, none were planned untill the release of Vista... along comes Firefox and what do you know they released IE 7 early... like I said if it were not for Firefox there would be no IE 7 betas on the public now ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
Ohh you and your fantasy worlds with a paranoid Microsoft... It would make too much sense that they wanted you to test it, report bugs and give feedback.
Look back on the MS archives, they said there would be NO release of any new IE versions untill Vista. Firefox came and they started saying they would release it early... simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
Firefox has had the test it, report bugs and give fedback system for ages already so what? IE 7 was released in a vain attempt to block competition... they saw they were and are screwed and are now trying to do something they should have done all those years ago.
Vista was originally supposed to be released in 2003. You say they released ie7 beta early due to firefox, I say they "partially released longhorn." :)
Say it how you like, either way Fx was responsible for the boosted development MS were to lazy/stupid to impliment earlier. IE 7 would have just been IE 6 with a facelift, no changes to the rendering engine at all except maybe a few long standing bugs. They would have made no effort to support standards at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by sevenhalo
When they have good standards support (and better security systems) I will not have anything to complain about...
Well Vista is out there in Beta1 back in Sept. 05 so it is out there. I have beta1 and yet to find spare time to install it. When exactly did IE 7 beta1 come out? :D
You know what would be cool. If they implemented the CLR into internet explorer. Not ASP.Net or any language server side, but made the CLR work client side (like a scripting language, but OOP). Do you have any idea of what potential that could present to the browser? Firefox finds a way to make postback look like it's not happening. MS eliminates postback.
IN YOUR FACE!
Far out, enough with the "cult" thing already. Of course products with a large following are going to have their fanboys, both IE and Firefox have them (obviously). All I wanted to do originally was make more people aware of a decent alternative. What do you think I used before I discovered Firefox? Yeah it was good old IE. As for Opera I didn't even know it was supposed to be a web browser.
Now please, enough with the OMG MY BROWSR RULZ!!!1!11 thing. If you take remove all the hype, spin, opinion, both IE and Fx have their merits against each other (yes IE 7 will have some features that are better than Firefox currently, such as a proper RSS feed viewer*). I use all Fx, IE, Opera all regularly when testing websites and Fx for regular browsing because I happen to like it most. I do understand why some people get worked up over it, including me sometimes (I'm writing Javascript these days, it's hard to stay calm doing that)
I just want to point out right now though that I am very impressed with the speed of the 1.503 update, it was rolled via autoupdate within I think a week or so of the security hole being discovered. True, it was made public, which forced the update, but so was the WMF exploit and how long did that take? From a purely objective point of view you'd have to say MS came off second best in that comparison (and it seems a fairly consistent scenario too)
and now maybe we can use this thread for rational discussion instead of one-upmanship. Or even what it was originally intended for, a place to share stories :)
P.S. I have not tested IE 7 as I do not generally test betas.
* Firefox 2.0 will also have an RSS feed viewer. Just wanted to point that out as they are both upcoming versions.
Ohh Pena... I wasn't serious about the cult thing :rolleyes:
I currently use both. I like IE because it's more familiar, but I keep Fx around for development (making sure things work on both). I was actually half way serious about a client side scripting language involving the CLR in IE though. I could see that as a step in MS's plan. Every other product they have is becoming CLR compatible?
That was quite possibly the most badly constructed post I've ever written.
I'm awake now.
OMG IE RULZ!!!1!11 :D
:lol::thumb:
Firefox was made in the US RobDogg, in fact, in California, probably not far from where you are.
Tried Bon Echo yet then?Quote:
Originally Posted by pena
No I don't test the nightlies (well sometimes but not often)
I thought you did test them :SQuote:
Originally Posted by penagate
I test them once a day and its fun when they are stable anyway :D
- Ryan Jones
You should test the reflow branch. Much more exiting..:)
http://flickr.com/photos/dbaron/126886608/
New Fx stats for Europe:
Slovenia taking the lead in front of Finland
3 countries over 30%
half of the countries are over 20%
http://www.xitimonitor.com/etudes/equipement14.asp
Now I guess that the 3rd world country called US, will probably come after a while too..:)
Ha ha... Norway is behind almost everyone else. When will that third world country rise up?
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Originally Posted by mendhak
Don't forget we make Opera, and are very very very very nationalistic...;)
Sorry, that has no relevance, consequence, or importance.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoteMe
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Originally Posted by mendhak
Sure it has. It is all about getting away from IE. Hence relevance..:)
And when Opera 10 is out. No one will use Fx anyway..:)
I will continue using Firefox when Opera 10 comes out.. And that's very relevant, importand and consequential. I'll also use IE 7.
You are irrasjonel. Now surrender..:)
FireFox ROCKS! Well so far only because I can see my field info on the page, this helps with my web development, IE on my comp dosent have it, dont know it I can get it, but I know FireFox rocks! Alot!
Where do you get a copy of IE 7? Can it co-exist with IE 6?
Wrong thread. Go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by abhijit
Seeing as this is the Firefox thread..I figured I would post this:
Its abbreviated Fx not FF!
Note the first capital F, yet the small 2nd f. (Firefox)
Ff <> FxQuote:
Originally Posted by kfcSmitty
No it can't. Nor can it co-exist with VB6.Quote:
Originally Posted by abhijit
Seriously? :eek2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Datacide
Uses: Temporarily releives conformity due to:Code:Active Ingredient Purpose
(In each installation)
Crap 20 tons....................Depressent
- Misguided Angst
- Overzealous Teens
- Parents not allowing you to pierce your ear
Warnings
Alcohol Warning
If you consume 3 or more alcoholic beverages a day, consult a doctor before using Fx as extreme levels of stress and utter disgust might cause violent outbreaks.
Do not use with any other programs that might want to access the internet.
Stop use and ask a doctor if
- you consider placing Fx propoganda in your signature.
- you think your next computer purchase should be a mac.
Keep out of reach of children
You should not use Fx if you are nursing or pregnant since birth defects might occur.
Overdose warning:
Studies have shown that over exposure to Fx in animal testing produced side effects such as baldness, bloating, sterility and a signifigant loss to motor and mechanical skills. In case of overdoes, get help (medical or psycological) or contact Microsoft for the IE7 antidote.
Thats news to me. And I am on VB5. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Datacide
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Originally Posted by Datacide
And nor can it co-exists with a helthy Windows install...
A healthy windows install doesn't exist to begin with Note...
One of the reasons is that IE6 is part of Windows... :afrog:
Another reason is that they include bugs free of charge as standard... And do not allow you to remove them during the install :(Quote:
Originally Posted by NoteMe
I like pointless discussions :lol:
im already using firefox but for some reason... i still need IE because some site especially those site have [transactions] can't run in firefox
i like how firefox search for a word in a page... you will already know if the page contains the word you want to search even without pressing the enter key to start searching
it is very useful when im reading manuals and tutorials
Most corporate intranets were designed around 5 years ago, when IE was the predominant market leader. Not to mention easier to code client scripting. All the clients I worked for from 2000 till 2006 have a corporate intranet that does not support browsers, other than IE.
We got Brad on our side...woohoo...:)
http://www.noteme.com/images/ss/brad-fx.gif
PS: I added the yellow highlight.
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