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1) I put the ghost images on for you to line up the buttons accurately (for spacing), but I can get rid of that easily.
2) why do they have to line up? a button is going to be made from a different piece of metal than the console, surely? Anyway, they shouldnt be too obvious.
Very sexy mech design screen.
I think we can work with that. It'll take some coding but won't kill me
The design screen can be on the left and the details of the mech will be displayed on the right.
In fact, just thinking about it, it's going to be nightmarish coding.
Have we come up with...
A name generator
A picture generator
yet?
Yeah, you'll have to remove the ghost buttons.
Could you send it with bevelled edges all around please with fewer straight lines?
Thanks
*sigh* my hero
It's going to take some time, I've been bodily removed from my machine, at least until lunchtime.
you want bevelled edges around all 4 sides of the panels? can do, but may take a while.
Remove ghosts. easy. a 10 second job. (always nice to know)
Excellent.
Errr..... How did someone bodily remove you from your machine? I'm sure it would have taken several strong men and three bison to do that.
Actually, one group had a client in, and Tom (sits next to me) offered me a pint a lunchtime if I made myself scare so the rest of the group could get round the machines to show off to the clients.
And who could say no to beer...?
Fair do's.
I've set myself a target to get the whole of the industry working before I go back to work on Tuesday.
Ambitious? Maybe.
Or maybe I'll finish it tonight. Really push the boat out.
wahey!
sound psuedocode:
Intro loops x 4
mid loops x 16
outro loop x 4
loopnumber = random loopnumber+minimumloopnumber
random introloop
for a=minimumloopnumber to loopnumber
play random mid loop
next a
random outro loop
1 x loop length silence
repeat.
Seems reasonable,
The problems we're going to have are
a)
getting the loops to tesselate
b)
making the code recognise when one loop has ended and the other should begin.
You take a, I'll take b
If you can provide me with some music, I can start coding the engine for it.
A place for everything and everything in its place...
If I had any idea what you were dribbling on about I'd probably denounce it as rubbish anyway....
see chitchat
Hey guys (sorry to intrude, I'm also a bumbling fool...)
I have a suggestion to make. What if you guys had all of the code in seperate modules, so that all you called in your main loop were user-made modules? It would surely be easier to find the code (you could use the origin command when right-clicking on the word) and it would be easier to make it all happen...
But it looks like you are already too far for this, sorry if it didn't help...
I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean Sastraxi...
The majority of the code is in modules (bar that stored behind control events) and I've tried to set it up so it's a logical as possible.
The main loop is merely about 8 subroutine calls and they then cascade down to other subs and functions, giving us a kind of turn heirarchy e.g.
etc (you get the idea)Code:
Main
Process Industry
Calculate Industry Points
Create components
Create RMV's
Remove Component's from stores
Generate unit
Create Battle units
Remove Component's from stores
Generate unit
Calculate Current Energy
Calculate incoming energy
From reactors
From units
Is this what you meant?
Yeah, I was just saying if the actual subroutine was in the main timer (or gettickcount, whatever) event, then havoc would ensue:
That is GOOD code. This is BAD code:Code:Sub DoStuff()
DoStuff2
DoStuff3
End Sub
Sub DoStuff2()
A = A + 1
B = C + 2
A = C + 3
B = B + 3
A = B - 99
End Stuff
Sub DoStuff2()
Me.Enabled = True
Me.Enabled = False
End Stuff
It's harder to read, eh?Code:Sub DoStuff()
A = A + 1
B = C + 2
A = C + 3
B = B + 3
A = B - 99
Me.Enabled = True
Me.Enabled = False
End Sub
I'm just saying you should have subroutines instead of a huge whopping subroutine.
Sastraxi,
That's pretty much what it looks like.
The main loop calls the sub routines, which in turn call functions. It's fairly tidy but it won't win any awards ;)
Juuuust Checking... :D
Mornin hairy guy!
Right, after our little chat last night I managed to implement a little of the second stage but it's not very flexible.
You can now allocated a % of your ind points to primary process (as it's now been christened) and then a % of that to each of
BM - Std
BM - Lght
BM - Str
BM - S/L
FF - Plastics
FF - Propellants
Current the formulae is simple.
One industry point converts one standard resource to one advanced resource. This shouldn't be that case. There should be some form of loss involved (efficiency) and this should be improved by having different buildings or researching new techs.
We could do with a formulae to represent this.
StdRes converted = (ind points / 2) * effic bonus
ergo if there are 20 ind points allocated and there is a 20% efficiency bones (through techs etc) then:
20 base metals with be removed from store
12 light alloys will be added to store
Follow the maths?
Anyway, how did you get on with your legs?
grrr...Everything I do looks poo!
You're not one for long posts are you?
OK, you got nothing done on the legs. So what do you thing of the stuff I outlined in the post above this?
I think 12 from 20 is particularly inefficient. I suppose that forces players to really look at their actions, so I guess its ok. Yuh, whatever.
I think applying values to these things is going to get easier. It's just a matter of time.
I've got some more images for legs. It's a going to get better. I just can't help feeling it should be rendered in 3D. bah humbug!
OK, You spend days rendering something in 3D and then shrink it down to 20*40 where you can really reap the benefits...
I'm building that spreadsheet at the moment. I'll upload a copy when it's complete. Then you can go through it and add your own comments/amendments. Don't delete what I've put, put your new values or comments in brackets in red after them.
I should have done it for a bout 12ish (I have a meeting at 11).
I'm also going round to a company that my mum works for to set them up on the internet if I can. Keeps me amused...
BTW, what evening are you free this week?
blarg!
I know. I didn't say I was going to render it. I just said I had a feeling. You know what I mean.
bah!:D
Aarrgggghhhh!
Blarg. I won't be able to finish the spreadsheet until about - squaaawk - 13.30 - 14.00.
Bleep.
Aaarrgg!
Splat!
Squonk!
Attached is the spreadsheet. After constructing a basic mech using bog standard components, the results are as follows...
Mech has:
Laser
Power reception array
Light Six Legs
Basic Torso
Stats:
Resources:
...........70 Base Metals
...........85 std alloys
...........37 Plastic
...........3 IGG
Ind points req:
...........470 (about 5 turns including primary processing)
Processor Req:
...........5.2 per turn
Weight:
...........7.5 tons
Sound ok
reattach the spreadsheet and try again...
Errr......
Here's the spreadsheet.
Rename to .XLS
Do those 5 turns include slurp time?
yeah, seems about right. I'll have a good old ponder over the spreadsheet
mech designs are finally taking shape (wahey!) I'll get back to you later on it.
5 Mgun n 10 std alloys, 2 plastics, 6 propellant 10 0.4 4 0.1 100 10000 113 0
What are you dribbling on about?
additions for the spreadsheet (come on, keep up...)
As mentioned, add any improvements, additions, amendments etc to the spreadsheet and then upload it. Don't post streams of numbers here please.Quote:
I'm building that spreadsheet at the moment. I'll upload a copy when it's complete. Then you can go through it and add your own comments/amendments. Don't delete what I've put, put your new values or comments in brackets in red after them.
How are you getting on with the graphics? Have you got anything further to send me?
I'm going to upload the techs zip and the research.ini when I get home tonight, so people can add that into their copies.
I'm hoping to complete the entire first stage of industry tonight, including the primary process and then ideally I'll mech construction complete by the end of the week.
Didn't we agree that constructing a mech will cost energy? If so, how much energy is it likely to cost?
Also, what nights are you free this week?
Expansion on the Primary Process:
Basemetal refining:
........2 to 1 std alloy (requires PM)
........3 to 1 light alloy (requires RWC)
........3 to 1 strong alloy (requires ISA)
1 strong alloy & 1 light alloy to 1 SL alloy (no loss) (requires Elastic Metals)
Fossil Fuels:
........3 to 1 plastic (requires ?)
........2 to 1 propellant (requires ?)
........20 to 1 diamond (requires ?)
Comments / fill in the question marks?
Awight hairy bloke.
Got the buttons - cool as!
Are these going to light up as you hover over them - is that the idea?
yup. finished them all last night (about midnight but I took a TV break half way through), You didn't request a pause research button, but I reasoned that it was a necessity.
Good man.
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Are these going to light up as you hover over them - is that the idea?
Oh, and could you amend the pause buttons to state 'Pause Research' please.
I'll be your bestest friend....
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Originally posted by Behemoth
yup. finished them all last night (about midnight but I took a TV break half way through), You didn't request a pause research button, but I reasoned that it was a necessity.
Sorry, thought you hiccuped.......