New program idea for VB developers!

Hello everyone! Hey, this is some project. I'd be glad to help as much as I can. I can provide a lot of things for the project. The server won't be very hard to setup.... I can easily build a system to run Windows 2000 and hook it to a T1. You see, my dad owns 2 ISPs and I can run servers on his network, and it would be really easy to put one up on the T1 there. I can manage it and I can help develop. I can also host/work on the website.

This project seems like a really great idea. I hope I can help in any way possible.

You can check out my small developing company:

http://www.progriumsoftware.com

BTW, I think we should all get ICQ (it's free) and use it's features to communicate. It's really good for this kind of thing.

-Jeff

This is at 10 PM USA CENTRAL TIME -6 hours GMT on JUNE 23 USA DAY

http://members.xoom.com/SMSTICK/index.htm !!

WItch is in about 5 hours and 10 minutes from now




Is anyone going to come??
COme one ppl ! we really need this chat



Also ICQ is A VERY GOOD IDEA!!
We have instant cumunication.


[Edited by Stick on 06-23-2000 at 06:01 PM]

Hey,

It is kind of ridicules (excuses me for saying) 70% of all posts here is about how and when to chat - and know one seems to be able to figure out the different time zones in the world.

Here is an idea... Use Swatch Internet Time - It is a global Time.

So if I say the time @114 here it is also @114 in USA, Japan, Africa and on Space station Mir.

To get you started use this link to see what the time is now - http://www.baekdal.com/test/time/

Thomas Baekdal
Baekdal Media

Good Idea
Hope some PPl figured it out that the chat is in 20 Minutes !

Hope to see ppl there !

Hey, no one seems to be able to get to the chat at these sorts of times so lets hold a chat this weekend and then for the people that are ahead in time zones will come in the afternoon and those that ar behind will come in the morning, coz then we can all get on and we can all meet up ?

I've got it. For the app we have a router app running on the server. Then there are the clients, we will use two for the process of explaining. Client 1 (C1) logs onto the server and then that apps logs they're online then when Client 2 (C2) logs onto the server they get a list of online users (C1) then they get the option to connect to (C1) and then get the code that they want, also when (C2) logs on the server tells (C1) that theyre on so that then the can both connect to each other.

For getting the code that is on the persons pc they have sub folders of the app misc, games etc these folders then have .zip files in them, all we need to do then is to get the program to search for .zip files in these directories and then add them to the correct categories on a treeview. this treeview is then sent to the client that wants to get the code. That client then selects some code they want and then that tells the other client to send it over (auto done).

This should run well and also we can make it so you have to register the first time you run the app so we can send updates and to set the server up for you.

Doing it this way should take a big load off the server and most of the work is done by the client. This will work a bit like icq. coz that logs onto their server and lookf for your friends to see if they're online.

What do you think ???

This may be a little of topic but... you could share any kind of files trough Napster!!!!

For example to share source code, you could put the source code into a text document, then just change the extension to .mp3 and put it into your shared folder

Oh yea, give it some long name like DAHFJH234FHDKSAH2
so that no one downloads it by accident

then the user that you want to download, downloads it, then again renames it to .txt and opens it up

I tried it before it WORKS!!!!



Then again I understand that you want to make your own program thing.

The problem's also that no one would search for POSIJDADSFJASPJF when he needs a ... BITBLT demo or something ;)

true, what I'm saying it that it's possible maybe have it like a bitbld and add somekind of long name to it likeL

bidldFROMVBWORLDVERSION23

I think we should just make our own app, and who know after we could even make it so it will handle c++ and java code

Yea, it would be better if you guys made your won program, but I'm just sayin

I have put together a test app with BoB we are testing it, if you give me a few weeks with BoB we can get a Beta test version of the app going for all to see

you're all worrying about who's gonna run the server.
I've made a gnutella clone a month or so ago..
it's still beta and i've stopped coding the thing since a few weeks,
but the basics are standing.
why not use that method instead of the napster-type method?
that way noone would have to setup a real t-1 server on a real server space,
cuz when you're connected to someone,
you're automaticly connected to the ppl he's connected to,
and to the ppl that ppl are connected to and so on!

so why not use such a thing?

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Hi Guys,

I dont want to do a napster. I'm doing an application to get mp3 from IRC channels.

I run my application connect in a IRC server (it work how a irc client)

with this same application, catalog my mp3's in a DB using a function that return the name of mp3 file without symbols (only a-z 1-9), this give-me unique files without duplicate copies.

get mp3 lists (txt) from many people in channel and write in a db with some information: filename, get command, own nickname, filename without symbols and space etc... with this and a query using substring i know how file i want to get.

but i have problem with the file transfer.
I use winsock. but...
if i receive with Getdata and write the packet to file in disk the mp3 dont work.

if i receive all data with getdata in an only variable string there is a problem because the string get only 2mb more less, and the files have 3 or 4 mb.

some one can help-me?

Sorry for my english.

thx.

Claudio Castro

*hehe* If you read the thread you know that has already been discussed ;)

I'm currently designing a web site to do just what you guys are talking about and more. It's called http://www.ComputerDope.com. It's not posted yet and is still under development. I have been collecting coding for about 6 months to put on the site. If you have any coding to post, suggestions on content/whatever, or you would like to sell some of your programs on the site send me an email:

[email protected]
[email protected]

PS: If you have started developing on the idea in this forum help and suggestions that I can use would be appreciated.

NOTE: If you are using someone elses coding please give them credit. This is only fair to those individuals that stayed up countless hours developing it.

Hey, if you guys find the free bandwidth we need, I'll supply the PC.

kevin rea
[email protected]

I'm getting a little e - sick! Can we remove parts of this thread or start a new one? When and where is the chat, and how many have I missed? How far along are you guys?

All these things are great!!!.
But what is the conclution?
What are we gonna do?
YOU CAN COUNT ON ME.

Pa'lante con to' el pie.
P.D. Sorry that was in spanish from Dominican Republic it means: GO AHEAD

A few of us started to make this a while ago but we stopped after a while to learn more winsock stuff. We have a perfect server that is on 24/7. We may be able to host the app that someone else has started making (they replied not long ago).

Again, I can bring the Computer (Server) and also a http://www.Domain for all of us.

From The Best Island in the Universy (also parallel Universe too): Dominican Republic.

I have a couple of cool voice activated programs, and I can supply whatever graphics and support. How old is this thread? I see stuff from June in here. Is this still an active project?

PsyVision Software started making the server for this but due to our lack of knowledge for winsock we abandoned it. We would feel happy to help as we are not too busy. There are about 3 of us that could program and some artists and web page builders and some help page writers. As far as i know the projsct that Doc Scheinder is doing is still going and we need to get in touch with him.

I would be interested in the program.

[Edited by spiritwolf on 12-14-2000 at 02:12 PM]

How far did you guys get and what type of architure did you decide on? I like the file sharing idea. But instead why don't we set up web virtual memory drives and store the code there? This can be central point of storage and retrieval.

.....Im in the final stages of perfecting a web server so i should be able to help with the making of the server. General structure.

You would need to have an array/index of winsock controls.

For I = 0 to 32760
Load sckServer(I)
Next I

Then they connect and u cycle through all of them to find the first one thats not in use. Then you need to check there user/pass.

Then they send a request to serach for a file and then it sends that request to the clients and then it checks their pc for the files and send back to the main server success or failure

Ok no prob. I'll create the login in process and connect the socket layers. Anyone good at creating agent graphics?

I talked the idea over with some more VB programmers and had some co-workers look at the solution plan/algorithm, they are all ready to help. We are live ladies and gentlemen. Let's get to the design. The process will be slow due to other obligations however, you can believe that I am giving every spare moment to this. Oh yeah there are a couple of college professors interested in using the technology. Anyone have any material typed up? Such as logic, coding, or suggestions.

...Busy web designing at the mo but can help when thats done. Whats agent graphics thingy. I'm pretty good at coding and winsock etc, like with all of the sending commands like to be able to login/out and searching. No good at gui though. Also make the gui better than napster !

Not skinned, this is for the pros and not to look all nice and cuddly for word and excel users if u get what i mean.

Has any work been done on this program yet?

btw thats a 404 error on your xoom page =p

I dont have an xoom account in use, my web site is http://www.psyvision-soft.net which i know has a 404 because i havent put anything on my m8's pc with the server on it. The site shall be up in January but at the mo, u can see it at

http://psyvision-soft.members.easyspace.com

Who is gonna do this program?
Is it started?
Who is gonna host the server?
Also if ya need help with winsock or internet tranfering send reciveing data I can help

i am good in logic i will make one right now
User-Client
1)The user sign's up.
2)The user get on the server with the client
3)The user make a project file using our project make and the project maker will only let vb project in or c++ or what file be in the project files.
4)The new project file will be listed in the database
Server/Database
1) The server must have a sql database or it will not work
2) The server request to search throgh the databse well do so then . and then it will retrun the list of thing and the search will be done by Type or subject type can be like butlit and so on subject is what the user names the Project
3)i will add more later tell me if you liek this

I think that the idea of the database on the Web a good idea. We could make a web page and get user input(or source code) and classify it under different categories and keywords. Then by putting a search engine on the thing, it would filter through the db and find results that have been gathered.

Yeah that'd how I'm designing the file data storage and retreival system. Any one know of any idrive web sites?

Stick,

Stick around, I know I will need your expertise. I finish the web site template and have started on the program. Anyone good at SQL? If so, your help in creating the database would be helpful. I'm loving this guys it seems like this is finally going to be completed.

Hi,
I like the sound of your idea.. and I have available a machine running on a 10meg line, with win2k running on it, and ms sql server 7.0 If your interested, I can put you on that? Its free, so I cant guarantee 100% uptime, but it will be up as much as is humanly possible, because my websites are on it.

Tony.
I have no sig. Sigs are the devils tag-nuts.

Sorry I didn't read all the messages coz it's too damn long!
So don't hate me if it was said in this thread already!

This idea was proposed here a while ago and there was a team starting to do this (I was one of them). We made a pretty good progress but then meny people just stopped doin this coz it was too hard. Just ask []PRIVATE1[]. He was the manager of this thing.
If anybody will actually start doing this he should talk to []PRIVATE1[] for the already made project so they wouldn't have to start from scratch.
I'm warning you, this project might stop at any second since the moment you start the project, but anyways GOOD LUCK if anyone decides to do something with that idea.

,Asaf Sagi