they do that too. you can also find me on the name beavis.
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they do that too. you can also find me on the name beavis.
Well, it's been quiet for a while...Guess we all soon have the time to go on with this project?
I have time. if I didn't lose the code :p
The DSL has arrived, but it won't be active until 18 Aug....thought you all should like to know!
Side notes for VBDen: The 404 page issue has been corrected, so no more weird MP3 downloads will happen!
Side notes for Mulunkey! Software: We just hired a Macintosh specialist, and she's helping us port to Mac and create new programs, so who knows what'll turn out from us? ;)
Side notes for all involved:
-- We decided not to upgrade the server. The Xeon board was defective, and we don't have the time or resources to wait before we leave for college again. Besides, the current server has been reliable for some time!
-- There may be some errors related to IP changes in the next few days, sorry about that
Frankly, I have not visited vbDen in quite a few days. My computer is still dead, and will be so for at least a week more. Also net access from the office is restricted, and we are working to release our Beta product in a couple of weeks.
Are we all just as eager as we started to build this site?
Have there been any additions to the content of the site since a month or so?
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Our websites our down due to a snafu on the part of our ISP. They'll be back later this week I believe.
Yeah, nothing's done in a month. Or over. I've been on my vacation and nobody else haven't been able to update, I think.
Anyways, I believe I have spare time atleast at school to write docs and so on. At home I still do so much else that I'm not sure if I have time for any docs. Hope I have a lot of computer subjects...Ought to be, last year at school and I'm on computer based class.
Does it strike anyone else as odd that all of us seem to have more time while school is in session than during vacation? ;)
No, it's not odd...There's so much free time at school (and that darn fast inet connection ;) )
That's not true for me!! Actually I don't go to school, that's why.Quote:
Originally posted by csammis
Does it strike anyone else as odd that all of us seem to have more time while school is in session than during vacation? ;)
LOL
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Is anybody still paying attention to this?
Okay, Mulunkey! Software just rereleased a week ago. We've gotten some contracts and offers, so we're busy. Here's the deal.
The Xeon server never worked. There was a flaw in the mainboard, and we simply do not have the time/money/patience to deal with it. We still have the old server without MySQL, and it is not going to be installed anytime in the foreseeable future. We've added some servers (http://ahna.mulunkey.com, for instance), but they'd be useless to you for development. That doesn't seem to be a problem because...
...it's been months since anyone did anything with this project. I tend to agree with honeybee, we've all lost interest in the site. Is anyone going to be working on it, or would it be just as easy to close the door on this one?
It's sad to see the enthusiasm slowly going out of the project.
Meanwhile I have uploaded a tutorial on rtf-help in VB on my site, the link is in my sig.
Any time the members' site is functional and requires any assistance, I shall be there.
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Don't give up! You have a good thing going! I certainly would like to see a members' site!
Ok, I think we need to remake the thing...and plans.
I think the biggest slowdown in the project is that most of us wanted the database. I think we can survive without. I'm a fast updater when it comes to HTML, so I think we could handle it in plain HTML. Just my opinion...because if we want mySql things, it probably takes ages to make.
Different idea: www.**********.com
This forum is highly customizable. I think I could be able to make a site on it. It is fast (the pages are sent compressed) and I think it would work perfectly. Then we would only need a server for images and other files and probably a redirection page (easy to do).
At the moment I'm coding a game with my friend. And I'm rather lazy to do content, to be honest...but I still could take care of the updates and make a preview thing for you all.
I want to clear this forum thing a bit more...I tell how it would work.
The forum is fast, as I said, and it has a database of course. It could be made so that it looks like a normal site, but there would be a subaddress in which "staff" could login, write new articles and new ones could register. Of course everyone are able to register, but it can be made so that they can't post anything.
For outsider, it would look like a normal site. For us...it looks like a forum...or more likely a site that can be updated via the internet. The articles can be edited afterwards.
Tell me what you think...and ask questions if you have them.
I think it's just great!
The only thing is we need to make sure it doesn't go the dotcoms way. It says it's totally free, without even the add banners. If that's really the case and there are no hitches, I think we should go ahead.
However, we mustn't turn it into a discussion forum, the forum tools must be used only to post articles, not to ask questions and answer them.
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Ok, I do a sample when I have time...don't know when exactly, but I'll do something :)
And making it also a discussion forum seems to be a bit impossible...maybe can be done, I'm not superspecialist of the forum thing yet, though I think I have made a lot changes compared to most of the other forums.
The problem in converting it into a discussion forum is that it will be in direct competition with VB Forums, which is against the basic idea of a Members' Site. We should restrict the forum idea only for posting articles, and only by approved members.
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If we convert it into a Discussion Forum, it will be in direct competition with VB World, which is against the basic idea behind a Members' Site. The forum facility should only be available for posting articles and to approved members.
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Yep, not against that opinion. Looks like I'm a bit busy atleast this week...looks like it'll be a weekend work.
http://2071.**********.com - It's not a fully working version, but I'm able to add users manually, edit the areas etc. plus it is possible to read/post/edit/delete the articles. There are minor bugs though. But it's working, as far as I know :D
Anyways...say if the design is odd or something. You could also tell what areas we have for articles. Because of the design, we're limited to six. I hope it's enough.
Ok, it's very ready now. Just need to know the areas...I think we can use the same that are used here?
General VB
API
Games and graphics
and maybe some others. Say what you think.
The following aren't done yet:
- Downloads
- Guestbook
- Site information
- Statistics
For downloads and site info I need help, to know what to put in...As an extra idea, should I get a redirection from CJB.net? Like vb-den.cjb.net (if it's free)
I'm tired now, I can't think of anything else right now. Anyways, say if there's anything that needs fixing!
honeybee? Still flying around or did someone slap too hard?
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Huh?
Oh, ok, proceed. You are doing well.
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He he, still around, don't worry. Shall check out the features in that URL. I don't think you need to put a redirector at cjb.net, I guess nobody ever went there ;)
Instead of having categories right now, can we just have a General VB category and a Tips section? We won't have enough material to start with all those categories.
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Ok, I do the changes :)
Btw, you could sign up...goto login page. I activate your account then...
I tried to sign up with user name honeybee and password honeybee. It failed.
If you creat my account, just email me the password and if you set some other username than honeybee, email me that too.
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I didn't know that this was still going on...
So it's going to be like an Article database?
I think we should also have a code bank - I run one on my web server, using PHP and mySQL :P
ok guys just to recap on this.........what on earth are you doin?......and is there any way i can help.....and what have you done so far.......can u give me a recap:D
Ehh...I think it's gone
what do u mean?
I mean that "u" arrived too late. Look at the beginning date of this thread, then look at the date of the last post before you...my opinion is that people have lost interest. I myself am moving from VB to VC++, so I'm not allocating a lot of time to VB anymore except to study how it wraps up the native Windows functions (which is interesting). Point is, VB Den doesn't have anything driving it anymore
Sad but true. In the beginning we all were quite charged up. Not anymore, not at least me.
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well.........we could start over again...not all people have lost intrest in vb........u guys are fanatics.......we are not...i'm sure i will someday crossover to VC.......but at the moment i'm a vber...and i think it would be great for all the newbies out there.....and even guys like me, to have a site with, tips and tricks...and some extracts from the forums......which are extremly useful.......
and csammis when u are making this mogration to VC, can u please give me any links u found useful........for especiay for guys like u who move from VB
thanx
Deane, to be honest, there are no links. I learned all I learned from working with the API in VB (www.vbapi.com), being mostly self-taught in C++, and reading my MSDN subscription. I had gotten to the point where I could create windows from bare scratch in VB (using only API calls) and at that point I figured it was useless to have the VB DLL overhead for my programs :) From there, it was intuitive for me. I still use VB for the rapid stuff that I have to do, but I convert it to VC++ as soon as time permits.
As for having this idea as a public resource, I agree that it would be good but it isn't going to come from this source. If you want to take the task upon yourself and gather others, I suggest that you read over this entire thread and learn what you can learn from what we did, possibly you could message the others and ask what they were working on and how they were involved. I regret to say that since my company is getting blows dealt to it on a daily basis, I can't offer hosting space any longer. www.vbden.mulunkey.com doesn't resolve anymore -- probably because we switched DNS providers -- although the files still exist (I think). If you decide to work on this, I'll see what I can do about getting you the files although I know that MerryVIP was in charge of uploads and such.
yep, this project is all off sadly :rolleyes:
that's sad
oh well, perhaps i will start it up again :/
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way to go!, i'll certinaly help, we can gather all the useful info from the forums, and post them there, and we can also let members to give them their own tutorials.
Hmm...the best way you maybe could make it is to ask everyone to help. Even a small snippet would help to gather a somekind of database of usefull and usually needed code. Problem is to gather people who are really willing to do things and make the thing going on. I can't join the project anymore, I have far too much to things to do and too small amount of time to do it all.
i have written a php script for my own personal use, to keep track of my code; i am sure i could put that to some eventual use ;)
great!........so what5 do we do now?......i have no idea
Guess you need to first organize the whole thing, so that everyone know exactly what to do. You probably need someone to make the site design + graphics, someone to lead the whole thing, and ones who collect code and look for most common problems at VB-Forums. Maybe even a just roughly made site with some info is good for a beginning.
After this begins advertising and telling about it. It'll take long but eventually, if the thing is good enough, it becomes popular. Part of this "advertising" is to place the site into search engines, like Google.
Then the final and most important thing: updating. There must be regular updates, atleast once a week, so it's worth to come back - there just might be something new and interesting. Yet, mostly the site is (originally) thought to be a place for VB Forums helperguys, a place where they can find code fast for often asked questions.
Ugh, hope this is a proper text to give you some idea :) You maybe need to collect some members too who are willing to help.