Spread the word! Firefox.

Opera's optimized speed has its downsides: I've found many annoying rendering bugs in it, which are probably there due to optimization tricks. They've optimized it too much from the wrong places so that it affects the result. Just two-three days ago did a pretty cool CSS-thing that worked fine on Firefox 1.5, good enough in IE6, but Opera, oh Opera... it made itself an opera. I had to figure out a separate workaround to its problem, and yet it resulted in that I'd have to use a browser detection to make the thing work as originally meant in Firefox, Konqueror and Safari (which are the browsers that appear to work).

As a btw, I didn't try to use any Firefox-only supported CSS, but CSS that should work in a modern browser. The biggest problem was position : fixed; that appeared to work correctly only in Firefox. Opera seems to place element using it... uh... where-ever it wishes. I haven't found a logic behind it.

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

I have converted 2 users from FF to IE :lol:

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good job RobDog888!!!
if there's any1 here with the same thinking, this forum doesnt worth me 2 enter :mad:

hav u ever tried tabbed browsing???
or are you gatting lost in minimizez windows and windows with location 124432,112432542????
im sure that by the time u read this post, u got a flood of IE windows above...
10+

keep up the good job RobDog888!!!!! :mad:

-no-offence-

I think you just hanged yourself

and also, before martinliss or some mod tells you, your signature is way to big. You might want to cut down the size of that thing.

^^What he said^^


I converted my school to Fx.

The Administrator is a Fx LoVer.

He took the source home and. Fixed it up for "school security" standards.


IE. To many bugs.
Fx. Havent fet had a problem with it.
Opera. Its far better then IE.But the XML parsing is "nowhere to be found".

Although Opera Has many features that are closely resembling Fx.
Id use Fx Hands down.

Ohh and i converted my IE luvin Friend to Fx after hitting him in the head a few times.

does a mb more here and there make a difference so what if its 5 mb atleast you dont have to apply those long unending list of updates.just the other day found that windows update had downloaded 20+ security updates in a single day.i wonder what these guys at microsoft do ! .think they deliberately make security lapses .so that they can force users to depend on their updates .today while i was surfing a few security sites stumbled upon this site "secunia.com" which has a long list of security vulnerabilities .check out the ie6 ie6 and firefox fx 1.5 pages one can hardly see a patched tick in ie6!!

The service pack for Visual Studio 2005 was in planning before VS itself was released. I think that sums up Microsoft's attitude to patching bugs.

thats funny

just found another reason to use firefox...

if you use GMail in firefox, you can send messages with RichTextFormatting (rtf).

cool :D

mozilla is paradise!

more and more people at work, uses fx!!!

I did try flock for a while, but I think firefox is way cooler than that. Also firefox was here first.

I still keep wondering why they didn't build an extension to firefox in the first place.

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Originally Posted by jcavard

mozilla is paradise!

more and more people at work, uses fx!!!

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Unfortunately at work, I am only allowed to use IE.

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Originally Posted by abhijit

Unfortunately at work, I am only allowed to use IE.

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get a new job :afrog:

Kill all IE!

IE ruins penagates code and that makes him unhappy - you won't like him when hes unhappy ;)

Cheers,

Ryan Jones

Hehe, converted a college tutor to it today. He wondered why i wasn't using Internet Explorer.
Then i pointed to my friend Rob... And he started asking qustions.

directed him to getfirefox website :)

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Originally Posted by thegreatone

Hehe, converted a college tutor to it today. He wondered why i wasn't using Internet Explorer.
Then i pointed to my friend Rob... And he started asking qustions.

directed him to getfirefox website :)

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Nice work :thumb:

It's a shame so many people don't know about anything except IE.

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Originally Posted by penagate

Nice work :thumb:

It's a shame so many people don't know about anything except IE.

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I suspect he will have portable Firefox on his thumb drive soon enough, tis what all the cool kids are using, lol :)

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Originally Posted by penagate

get a new job :afrog:

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Where do I sign up?

http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.p...id=44724&stc=1

I just bought a firefox shirt.

I use Firefox almost exclusively. I design in it and then as a last step, I open IE and fix anything that IE screws up because of its non-W3 HTML compliance.

FIREFOX FIREFOX FIREFOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

i changed ages ago but ive only just found this thread:thumb:

The Telewest Engineer was impressed by Fx, maybe he will change over form IE now...

IE #1 forever! :thumb:



* runs and hides *


:lol:

The new version of Opera doesn't render some pages correctly. I am a little annoyed that I might revert back to firefox.

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

IE #1 forever! :thumb:



* runs and hides *


:lol:

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*Stabs RD with, ironically, a Microsoft Pen Drive*

Oh great, I'm bleading :eek:, but of course its blue blood :D :lol:

http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.p...chmentid=45086
Ow wait... wrong thread :p :lol:

I'm so close to reporting those posts ;)

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

Oh great, I'm bleading :eek:, but of course its blue blood :D :lol:

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Don't you mean green?


Oh wait that was spock. nvm

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Originally Posted by yrwyddfa

The new version of Opera doesn't render some pages correctly. I am a little annoyed that I might revert back to firefox.

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Prolly cause all they were focused on was passing the acid2 test.

I have blue Microsoft blood in me even though I have green skin. The green skin is a side effect of the colors mixing and producing green.

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Originally Posted by space_monkey

Prolly cause all they were focused on was passing the acid2 test.

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It is not out yet is it??? It is just a beta...of course there is errors in it...:D

Ouch...talk about taking back the web..:D


Boingboing.net
http://www.noteme.com/images/ss/boing.jpg




- ØØ -

I just reseted my biggest forum's counter yesterday and now Firefox has taken the lead :) Pretty good for a fully non-technical forum (the only thing common with everyone on the forum is appreciation of J.R.R. Tolkien's books). Here is the statistics page. Hoping IE keeps falling down and that the other browsers gain ground. Supporting IE is kind of bothersome with actively developed board.

Hahahah...how random..

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/23155


poor RobDog. He have to put up with it..:)

Wow, Google advertising FireFox. good on them :thumb:

Hahaa..now you can even get money for converting people form IE to Fx..:D


http://explorerdestroyer.com/

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Originally Posted by NoteMe

Hahahah...how random..

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/23155


poor RobDog. He have to put up with it..:)

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Nope, I dont have to see it as its not there for me. Typical FF bug.

Oh and dont forget that Google is NOT my friend. :D

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Originally Posted by NoteMe

Hahaa..now you can even get money for converting people form IE to Fx..:D


http://explorerdestroyer.com/

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So thats how bad things are for FF? They have to result to paying people to use their crappy browser. :lol:

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

So thats how bad things are for FF? They have to result to paying people to use their crappy browser. :lol:

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Any tactic that gets better web standards is a good one :D

I prefer secure and standards friendly over crap, old and feature lacking any day!

- Ryan Jones

But I thought all you FF'ers like using Crap? (rhetorical) :D

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

But I thought all you FF'ers like using Crap? (rhetorical) :D

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Name one thing IE can do better then Fx besides get you a virus or fifty which more people do not consider a useful feature ;)

Fx may be crap but I guess that makes IE what...? its already botton of the pile it can't get any lower anyway ;)

- Ryan Jones

No it cant so that means the only way is Up :D


IE is an industry standard and more widely used. FF is used more at home or for recreational use. Very few companies use FF exclusively like they do IE. :)

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

IE is an industry standard and more widely used. FF is used more at home or for recreational use. Very few companies use FF exclusively like they do IE.[/color] :)

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You can't be more wrong :P

Internet sites like new features because people like new features, new features require innovation and implimentation. IE lacks both innovation and implimentation. OK it was innovative when it was first released thats why it beat Netscape but after that the monopoly showed its real intent and stopped development, stopped innovating and stopped implimentation.

Firefox impliments all the latest standards as quickly as possible and thus allows sites to be innovative with their new features :-)

Can you see the logic behind that?
Firefox -> Implimentation -> Innovation of site makers -> Happy users.
IE -> No Implimentation -> Boring old rubbish for sites -> Unhappy users.

Seeing as internet sites (companies) like users they require innovation to keep interest up and for innovation we need implimentation of standards, IE kills this stage so Fx is far more useful to companies than internet explorer which lacks even th most basic standards (Although they are now stating to support them which I give them credit for).

Its a simple concept :D

- Ryan Jones

So then VBF is boring and users are unhappy? I dont think so or we wouldnt have all the addicts. :D

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

So then VBF is boring and users are unhappy? I dont think so or we wouldnt have all the addicts. :D

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Accept the fact Fx is just better, it has more features, more standards support, bugs don't take 5 years to be fixed (there are exceptions), its far more secure and it has an open plugin system... none of those are questionable. I never said VBF was boring, the CSS is just hacked to make shure it works with IE OK. Make a site test case without macking the hacks and IE will have more then a few problems ;)

Fx rules the world and you can't see it :P

- Ryan Jones

No! :D FF'ers are nothing more then a delusional cult being fed bloated useless features and plugins.

Its only a matter of time. Even the Bugs are starting to appear now in FF. :p

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

No! :D FF'ers are nothing more then a delusional cult being fed bloated useless features and plugins.

Its only a matter of time. Even the Bugs are starting to appear now in FF. :p

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Starting...? Why do you think bugzilla was made? There are still open bugs from 2001 ;)

No-one ever claimed Firefox is bug free because its not and I question anyone that says it is but neither is IE :P

Plugins are not useless... while you have to live with internet ads and crap I can just block them... poor you.

- Ryan Jones

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

No! :D FF'ers are nothing more then a delusional cult being fed bloated useless features and plugins.

Its only a matter of time. Even the Bugs are starting to appear now in FF. :p

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I don't think you've said a single coherent thing in this thread and you accuse us of being a delusional cult :confused:

Honestly if IE suited me better I would use it. Same for most Firefox users.

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Originally Posted by sciguyryan

Starting...? Why do you think bugzilla was made? There are still open bugs from 2001 ;)

No-one ever claimed Firefox is bug free because its not and I question anyone that says it is but neither is IE :P

Plugins are not useless... while you have to live with internet ads and crap I can just block them... poor you.

- Ryan Jones

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I can block them too in IE, just check the box to block popups.

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Originally Posted by Penagate

Honestly if FF suited me better I would use it.

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IE Rules! w00t! :lol:

How about those sites that say "YOU ARE AN IDIOT" How do you like closing them?

Ya, Penagate. How about it?






:D

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

I can block them too in IE, just check the box to block popups.

IE Rules! w00t! :lol:

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hehe RobDoggyDogg gets even more MS points... pretty soon he can trade them in to get his flashy Microsoft mug :)

I don't see why everyone is all gung ho over expressing their favorite browser. Whoopee... I have a favorite food. Does that mean I go around saying to everyone "Pizza is the best! Eat pizza! Your favorite food sux and has problems with it!"... [ QUOTE ] (rhetorical) [ /QUOTE ]

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Originally Posted by |2eM!x

How about those sites that say "YOU ARE AN IDIOT" How do you like closing them?

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haha! I meant you rob :lol:

No flaming in my feel-the-love thread please.

:lol: I can always count on you guys to get all riled up over FF! :D :lol: Oh what fun! :p




Oh, I forgot about my MS $'s. Time to go shopping. :D

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Originally Posted by gigemboy

I don't see why everyone is all gung ho over expressing their favorite browser. Whoopee... I have a favorite food. Does that mean I go around saying to everyone "Pizza is the best! Eat pizza! Your favorite food sux and has problems with it!"... [ QUOTE ] (rhetorical) [ /QUOTE ]

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If everyone started to eat my favorite food. That would not help me. But if everyone started to use a browser that rendered by the rules, THAT WOULD HELP ME...;)

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

:lol: I can always count on you guys to get all riled up over FF! :D :lol: Oh what fun! :p




Oh, I forgot about my MS $'s. Time to go shopping. :D

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I now finaly understand how Bush managed to become president in that god forsaken country over there...

Wow..look here. Look at the screen shots. Looks like Norways biggest news paper has started to use Fx too...;)


http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=114191