holy fire truck, man you ask a lot :D :D :D
just kidding, I will play around with it and see what I can come up with. On that error, I forgot a quote, hate when that happens, :D
I will work on it and get back to ya.
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holy fire truck, man you ask a lot :D :D :D
just kidding, I will play around with it and see what I can come up with. On that error, I forgot a quote, hate when that happens, :D
I will work on it and get back to ya.
Ok, good, if we all do more than we are able, we make a hell great site :rolleyes:
ok take a another look and see if this will work. I didn't understand what you meant by this
<H6>Admin</H2>
Go back to main (or if under a sub sub, Go back to subareaname)
My code
Post code
Register
do you want me to take out the Home and put Admin instead? which leads to where?
...not working
i just want admins to be able to put code on the website, but all users can submit so that it will be checked by an admin. can you do that?
Well, I can have it so they can view all the code, then if they want to post code, send them to a form where it is emailed to someone and then that person can go into admin to insert the code.
Also if we let them post there own code and it turns out to be bad or not even code at all, the admin has the capabilities to ban that user and delete all there code, but if you want to go the other way, I can do that too.
give me a day or two.
Got my proxy settings configured so I can access the web from office now. I think at present since only the superpowers, i.e. us the admins, will be submitting code, we can leave the task of uploading the codes to MerryVIP. In future we need to implement some quality control for the codes submitted by users, so that the site does not get populated with junk or common code.
MerryVIP, I had sent an email to you last week with a zip file. The zip file contained the first part of a tutorial on the TreeView control that I am writing. Did you receive the email? I just checked our site and the material is nowhere to be seen. If you have not received the email, I shall re-send it.
Also, Paul Warren has agreed to try and write an article on database design. Good news, isn't it?
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who's paul warren
is it cgi or php?Quote:
Originally posted by scoutt
Well, I can have it so they can view all the code, then if they want to post code, send them to a form where it is emailed to someone and then that person can go into admin to insert the code.
Also if we let them post there own code and it turns out to be bad or not even code at all, the admin has the capabilities to ban that user and delete all there code, but if you want to go the other way, I can do that too.
give me a day or two.
Paul Warren is a member of the VB-World forums, and from my impression, he is good at database matters.Quote:
Originally posted by da_silvy
who's paul warren
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Ok, I get into work...And yes, I received the mail. I'm still doing the update. Though I'm mainly doing other things, I'm making my messageboard and another site too. I have many of these things :)
Sometimes getting online is a real chaos, as I should do a lot in a little amount of time. Usually it happens so that I'm twise longer I wanted to.
In two or three weeks, the server will be upgraded to a twin Xeon system. At that point, it will have a SQL database. There will be a fair amount of outage at that point, but we'll keep it to a minimum and I'll post about it before it happens.
About the 404 page: That's my web developer's thing, and as long as the server is his, it's not going to change. Just don't make broken links :D
MerryVIP can share the FTP user/pass if other people want to upload, but I'm not going to issue any more. It's still primarily for Mulunkey! Software, and security has been an issue ever since we launched the FTP server.
We're still quite busy and undergoing some major changes (as you may imagine from the new server thing) but I'll be around here to answer questions/help where I can.
da_silvy, it is as of right know a cgi program, but if the server gets sql we can use the php one since its more proficient. but that is up to you guys. I have installed apache, perl, php, and mysql on my computer so I can work on the programs without going online, a lot easier for me. I can take all the links for the user to upload code out and just give MerryVIP the link to go directly to the upload page, if he wants to do it like that.
I am working as a web developer and would love to help in my free time. I have also got a great hosting co (http://www.readyhosting.com) they are $100 annually, less than $9 a month. Unlimited POP email addresses, aliases, unlimited bandwidth, 500 MB space, it's really unbelievable. SQL Server DB is additional $25 a year ($2 per month), but we could always use Access. I'd love to be a member, and help with whatever I can.
It would be good if we could get database access, then I can (try to) write a program to manipulate the site, on your screen, then just update the database...
From Spetnik--
That's a good point...I know next to nothing regarding DBs, but why can't you use Access instead of MySQL or any other DB?Quote:
we could always use Access
spetnik, as the co-ordinator of the team, let me welcome you onboard.
To be very frank, this idea was conceived out of emotion more than a conscious effort. We have all come together to develop this site out of a dream, but as far as money is concerned, I think it's still early to decide about that. In addition to that, if we rented space now, csammis would feel bad. After all he has offered his company's space to us for free. We can't dis-honour his contribution.
csammis and all other members, now that SQL support may be available in a few weeks' time, I suggest we keep on compiling stuff to put up on our site. Once we have some decent size content and the database support, we can decide how we can go about it.
csammis, I personally would have preferred the PHP-MySQL combination because of its integration. I don't have much experience with any of these tools, but the way they are being advertised, I think they have the potential to overcome the ASP-SQL combination.
About using Access databases, one thing is we shall have to see if Access database connectivity is available with PHP and then the other aspect will be security.
When we finalize on the use of database, we can start using Access for starters, and then migrate to MySQL or SQL server as appropriate.
My home computer has crashed, probably the motherboard has conked off, so I am a bit tied up for this week. First I have to fix the PC, only then can I resume my work on the Common Controls.
MerryVIP, can you devise a common page which will be used in case a link is bad? And wherever we have to insert links you can insert a link to this page. Thus all those links which start the Realplayer on my PC will instead display this page which will say something like 'The work is still on. Check back after a couple of days ...'
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Thank you!
Well, I use ASP both at home and at work. It is extremely powerful, even with MS-Access. At this point, I believe Access would be the best way to go. This is because A, it won't slow us down as we are not going to have massive amounts of data, and B, if we decide to switch hosts, it is alot easier to transfer. The only disadvantage at this point would be that Access has no stored procedures, but thats really no biggie.Quote:
Originally posted by honeybee
csammis, I personally would have preferred the PHP-MySQL combination because of its integration. I don't have much experience with any of these tools, but the way they are being advertised, I think they have the potential to overcome the ASP-SQL combination.
About using Access databases, one thing is we shall have to see if Access database connectivity is available with PHP and then the other aspect will be security.
When we finalize on the use of database, we can start using Access for starters, and then migrate to MySQL or SQL server as appropriate.
I would love to be involved with physical development of the site, especially if we will be using ASP. I am very experienced with it, and it can do just about anything.
I don't thnk we will go with asp. And I an not sure if php connects to access, I will have to check on that.Quote:
originally posted by csammis
5) About .ASP...we don't have an ASP module for Apache, and as far as I know they aren't free, so we don't have ASP support.
Why shouldn't it? Does it support ADO? And you could always make a DSN for the Access DB.
I see, but we don't even have MySql as of yet. and my version of php (4.05) says that odbc is not yet implimented, but after reading the manual for php it will connect with it. It does seem like a little more work, but we could manage I guess.
ok. but... just keep readyhosting in mind. it's alot less of a headache. :)
From honeybee:
I wouldn't feel bad...if you guys want to rent space to better suit your needs, that's fine :) I do enjoy contributing any way I can, and since I've got loads of webspace that isn't doing much anyway, that is the best way I can contribute. When the new server comes online, it sounds like most of the problems will be solved, since it'll not only have the same software as right now but also a lot more DB support.Quote:
In addition to that, if we rented space now, csammis would feel bad. After all he has offered his company's space to us for free. We can't dis-honour his contribution.
Also, regarding the 404 page...I can't remember off the top of my head, but it may be possible to configure a different error page for each virtual host. If it is, then here's what we can do: Someone can design an error page that looks good with the site and doesn't launch MP3 players (I'm going to ask him about that), and MerryVIP can upload it as "/404.php". I'll look at the configuration files, and if it is possible, it'll happen. If not, the suggestion that all links created that don't have a target right away should point to a default page is a good one.
Also: I don't remember which one it was, or even if it was your site (I lose track of things quickly around here), but I *think* one of your off-site links is launching itself within the right-hand frame. Just a heads-up :)
csammis, not only that, but also at this point I don't think it's worthwhile to make any monetary investments. Many of us, you and me certainly, are full-time employees and can't easily take time out to build a good site. Once the site is up and running and we receive favourable feedback from the visitors that the site is really worth the efforts we have put in, we can pool in more resources. But not at this moment. And your contribution is great because we couldn't have afforded an ad-free domain elsewhere.
About the DB, it's really going to be ASP v/s PHP. Since mulunkey does not (I guess) support ASP, we shall have to stick with PHP.
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I have an error program that can email you when a link has been broken or a file that is gone. this can be implemented in the .htaccess file that we can have in the vbden folder. it also has a page to let the user know if/when the link is bad.
ok I think I got the script to work how we want it. it has a link to where people can submit code to the person and that person can put it in the database or flat file. go here
tell me what needs fixed and I will get on it. I just assume take out the admin link and give MerryVIP the link to upload code. that way we don't have anybody going to that page. The submit page can be changed to what ever we like. it does work but I get the mail as of right now, (testing purposes) I can change that to go to MerryVIP.
I *may* be wrong, but I think we disabled .htaccess files in favor of doing it all in the config files. If the .htaccess file works, great, let me know :)
Just writing to say "sorry" for the server outage...we're not sure what happened, we were using it for some routine network tests and it dropped the network like a brick, which really pisses me off because it was the router for the office :eek: I can't say when it'll be back up, but rest assured it's a priority...we make it a policy to check out the Dilbert site while we work (don't wanna be boring!), and we want it back ASAP :)
would you like me to do something in return for the free space?
fix up your web site? anything else?
(i have a fair bit of time on my hands)
scoutt, add <TR><TD> ;)Code:<table width=600 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=1 border=0>
<P ALIGN=right><IMG SRC="../../suite/images/pagetop.jpg" ALT="VB-Den" TITLE="The VB-Den">
I make the 404 page. Though wouldn't it work just as plain HTML? Except if you want to add it into a middle of a file, of course...
I think I do a little update tomorrow (if the server is up). At the moment I'm having my first migraine, which is why I haven't been able to do much. I try to get "back on my feet" soon.
well, where did they go?? it is all fixed now.
If we can use the .htaccess file then ya all you need is html files. or you can use my script which is one page for all errors.
If you notice I inserted a get notified link on the code pages. it goes to another form page where the user can pick which category he wants and send it in for the mailing list. the mailing list I have works like a charm up until you send mail. Can't for the life of me figure out why. It says it sent sucessfully but I don't receive any mail. I then found out that a lot of people are having the same problem. So I will look into it deeper I guess.
da_silvy, thanks for the offer...but I'm not asking for anything in return for the space :)
scoutt, for the email sending part, how are you trying to send the mail? I'd go and look, but gosh, the server's not up :(
csammis, Are you talking about the mailing list program? I think it is using sendmail. the script is not on your server, it is on my isp's server. I have not had any problems with sending mail on mine. it is funny you can subscribe/unsubscribe and opt-in/opt-out with no problems. it's just that you can't send out the mailing list to everybody. I can't see anything wrong with the script. I might just hold off on it and wait until you get mysql installed and use another script I know that works.
Guys, I must apologize for a long absence from the Forums and from the content work I had started. My motherboard (actually the motherboard of my Home PC) conked off a couple of days ago, and I am trying to get a replacement. Since it's a Pentium 200 MMX, it's pretty hard to locate a motherboard that old.
Although I can access the site from my office, it's irregular (the access, I mean) and I cannot write any content.
Hopefully I shall be back in full swing in a week. Till then, the co-ordinator has to co-ordinate certain things. ;)
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scoutt, it could be that it isn't working because it's won't run scripts from across domains...I know, for example, Java won't run content from across domains, it'd be a pretty big security hole if it did. Other than that, I've got no idea
across domains?? it is all on the same server (mine), maybe I don't understand what you are trying to say.
also a lot more $$Quote:
Originally posted by spetnik
ok. but... just keep readyhosting in mind. it's alot less of a headache. :)
when and what do you want me to put on the website? (code etc?)
scoutt, all I'm saying is that if you write a PHP script that runs on my computer, and if that script tries to access something (anything, even an image) on a computer that isn't mine (e.g., across domains), it probably won't work. This may or may not be the case in your mailing list, but if it is the case, that's probalby why the script isn't working.
csammis, the script is not accessing anything from another server. it just won't send the mail through sendmail or just plain mail(), i have not had the time to look at it in more detail, but that is what is happen.
Okay, thank you for clearing that up
csammis, I see the site is back up, good job. now when is Mysql going to be done?
I can't see loading the cgi script if we turn around and put the php script up. that would mean inputting all the data to the mysql DB since the cgi is a text file DB. I have the php ready, I think check to see if it looks good.
if not it won't take too long to fix it.
waiting to here from you guys, and hope Honeybee gets his computer up and running again. ;)
Barring any more unforeseen outages or workloads, the new server will be ready within a week