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:confused: Nothing could be farther from the truth. If I gave you that impression I am sorry. Examine my responses again without the eyes of hatred..........oh and forget that I'm a woman. I think that may be coloring your judgement.Quote:
i have been closely examining your replies.. they all some how are indirect insults on islam
Chill guys, don't argue about it...
also kovan, here is a fixed version of your peace logo if you want
http://www.vbforums.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=578861
Jesus christ I should have kept my mouth shut :)
Anyway do you remember what I said in that other thread, about the americans wanting to piss on everyone else ?
Well yah I didnt mean it in the way that I did, but if you look at one of skitchen8's first posts, "you've pissed off the worlds largest super-power and we all want people like you dead" (referring to kovan I think).
Thats the sort of thing I meant. Its probably just a minority of single-minded people you've got like that.
ROTFLMAO! :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by ghost ryder
I FOR ONE AM TOO INTELLIGENT TO FALL FOR ITS *****
Intelligent? You? You're quite clearly an irrational, mindless, blithering idiot.
well I see we're off to a good start this morning :)
Well, what can he expect?
It did make me laugh, though. Almost Monty Pythonesque in its sheer ridiculousness. :)
No Sir!
The parrot is merely sleeping !
;)
People are still getting worked up over this. I suppose it beats watching Eastenders. I remember how we used to call Liverpool self pity city..........:rolleyes:
Actually I think its just a few thick americans that are getting worked up over it
Some of these people are incapable of seeing beyond their own blinkered opinion. Anytime they recieve a reply - its as if they are deliberately trying to misinterpret it. Oh well, and people wonder why we have wars.:rolleyes:
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? ARE YOU CALLING ME GAY?Quote:
Originally posted by RSINGH
Anytime they recieve a reply - its as if they are deliberately trying to misinterpret it.
:p
*THUMP*Quote:
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? ARE YOU CALLING ME GAY?
Actually what I said was :
You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into a hostile world. You are an insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts that sired you and then died of shame in recognition of what they had done. They were a bit late.
Canna you no reada ze Eeeeengleeesh man? Eh well canna you?
Mornin' Dunc - managed to drag yourself from your bed to your desk I see - all of 15 metres:)
Sounds like love to me... :rolleyes:
Mornin' Ranj. I'm actually in the real world today - sunny, sunny London.
Dragged myself out of bed at 5:30! :eek:
there were others that did MUCH more flaming than Adam, i only really see one "flame" ...Quote:
Originally posted by abdul
And the reason was this:
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...348#post571348
"i'm sure your gay"
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oh that is *SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO* offensive :rolleyes:
i think everyone has to grow up
:eek: :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by InvisibleDuncan
5:30! :eek:
I got half an hour more sleep than you. Not pleasant is it. Especialy now that its still dark and effin freezing. Oh well - in two weeks I'll be sunning myself in Tenerife.:D
You get up at 6:00? Every weekday? That's not funny at all.
I hate leaving the house when it's still dark, and it's now got to the stage where it's dark when I get home, too. Thank God I don't do it that often.
I envy you Tenerife. If you can bring any of that sunshine back in a bottle, I'll buy it off you.
Duncan, as your a mate - i'll get you some for free. I've also got exclusive sale rights for The Tower of London, Buckingham Palace and St Pauls cathedral if there are any wealthy arabs or Americans out there interested.;)Quote:
Originally posted by InvisibleDuncan
I envy you Tenerife. If you can bring any of that sunshine back in a bottle, I'll buy it off you.
really?? why is that?? coz i dont see america as a little fairy princess who can do no wrong??Quote:
Originally posted by InvisibleDuncan
ROTFLMAO! :D :D
Intelligent? You? You're quite clearly an irrational, mindless, blithering idiot.
actually, forget it, i dont care why u think im stupid, you opinion means nothing to me, you have dissed me before, so u clearly dont like me, so be it, puto.
ive decided to not bother to participate in these thread any more, coz it seems when i speak my mind martinliss get pissed. everyone else (aside from kovan :D) is free to insult everyone and say whatever they want, but when i decide to state my point of view, oooooh, you cant do that!! so forget it, if i do ever decide to participate, i wont bother getting mad when someone acts like a complete nonse
and harry, yeah i agree with what u said in that post
and katie, i dont think kovan is sexist, i know im not, and islam isnt sexist anyway, women have had a very high status in islam for a lot longer than in the west, but i wont start an argument, just pointin out the facts, people that dont allow women to go 2 skool and stuff pervert what the Qu'ran says
It's not that you can't say what you think, it's the way you say it. Sure, express your opinion but don't get too worked up too quickly.Quote:
ive decided to not bother to participate in these thread any more, coz it seems when i speak my mind martinliss get pissed. everyone else (aside from kovan :D) is free to insult everyone and say whatever they want, but when i decide to state my point of view, oooooh, you cant do that!! so forget it, if i do ever decide to participate, i wont bother getting mad when someone acts like a complete nonse
This is another oft-said thing that I read, about how Islam treats women so 'well'. I think this is just a difference in opinion as far as what treating women 'well' is. It seems that Islamic cultures think the best way to treat women is to make sure they don't have to worry about earning money and protect them from staring eyes and leering men and so on. To most western cultures, that's seen as a pretty bad way to treat women, because it presumes that they don't want the responsibility of looking after themselves. I think most western-minded women would rather be independant and earn their own living and not be forced into a life of housework and child-raising, however well protected they might be.Quote:
islam isnt sexist anyway, women have had a very high status in islam for a lot longer than in the west, but i wont start an argument, just pointin out the facts, people that dont allow women to go 2 skool and stuff pervert what the Qu'ran says
'Respect' is a very loosely-used term in this context. You might think that looking after women and letting them get on with child-rearing and home-making (as you presume they want to do) is having respect for them. You might think 'defending their honour' is respectful. To me, living in a western culture and with the very western upbringing I have had, that's very disrespectful because it's implying that women aren't capable of looking after their own affairs and need men to sort their lives out for them. To me, it's respectful to allow any woman to live their life on more or less their own terms (I say more or less their own terms because nobody can live on entirely their own terms, compromises must be made somewhere in life), and not remove their freedom to make their own decisions irrespective of their gender.
I can see that the oppressive way Islamic fundamentalist regimes treat women is a twisted version of what Islam intends. However, my personal opinion is that what Islam intends isn't that great in the first place. Don't take that as an insult to Islam, it's not. It just means I have different ideals.
Listen people, the only respect one needs have is to me.
Simply because I ownz.
The rest of you dont really matter, so shut up complaining and get a grip.
Right. Im glad we got that sorted ;)
Ghost - There's nothing wrong with having an opinion or even a discussion/'heated debate'. In fact I say go for it. However rise above the temptation to shout/insult/swear. Present your arguments in a clear and rational manner - no-one can then have a go at you (or ban you). The discussions around this topic keep descending into a farcical game of ping pong abuse. In fact I've seen very little intelligent comment (people like Kedaman and some others excepted).Quote:
ive decided to not bother to participate in these thread any more, coz it seems when i speak my mind martinliss get pissed. everyone else (aside from kovan ) is free to insult everyone and say whatever they want, but when i decide to state my point of view, oooooh, you cant do that!! so forget it, if i do ever decide to participate, i wont bother getting mad when someone acts like a complete nonse
Both sides have been spouting a load of spurious BS backed up by nothing but their own prejudices and closed minds. There is a refusal to accept others' points of view - and even when people agree they still can't get on.
Rise above it, refuse to take the bait.
I would provide the quote about 'keeping your head while others around you are losing theirs for then my son you will be a man' but I can't remember who said it or the exact words but my paraphrase I think keeps the gist of it.
Personally I quite enjoy watching a creative flame war - but some subjects are way too important to be reduced to this level.
Take it easy mate.
Rudyard Kipling's "If" I believe.
Thanks mate - I hate it when I just can't remember;)Quote:
"If"
All Irishmen are gits. And that bloody Catholicism geeez louise .. silly buggers... and whats with those potatoes eh??? Is that not the height of cuisine or what? Bloody rains all the time too. And dumb, have I mentioned how dumb they are yet.......Quote:
Originally posted by plenderj
Listen people, the only respect one needs have is to me.
Simply because I ownz.
The rest of you dont really matter, so shut up complaining and get a grip.
Right. Im glad we got that sorted ;)
:D Bollox Jamie!!
dumb? haha. I knew which poem the above quote was from.
So neenerneenerneener :)
yeah, dif ideals, thats aboot it (hey im canadian :D)Quote:
Originally posted by HarryW
It's not that you can't say what you think, it's the way you say it. Sure, express your opinion but don't get too worked up too quickly.
This is another oft-said thing that I read, about how Islam treats women so 'well'. I think this is just a difference in opinion as far as what treating women 'well' is. It seems that Islamic cultures think the best way to treat women is to make sure they don't have to worry about earning money and protect them from staring eyes and leering men and so on. To most western cultures, that's seen as a pretty bad way to treat women, because it presumes that they don't want the responsibility of looking after themselves. I think most western-minded women would rather be independant and earn their own living and not be forced into a life of housework and child-raising, however well protected they might be.
'Respect' is a very loosely-used term in this context. You might think that looking after women and letting them get on with child-rearing and home-making (as you presume they want to do) is having respect for them. You might think 'defending their honour' is respectful. To me, living in a western culture and with the very western upbringing I have had, that's very disrespectful because it's implying that women aren't capable of looking after their own affairs and need men to sort their lives out for them. To me, it's respectful to allow any woman to live their life on more or less their own terms (I say more or less their own terms because nobody can live on entirely their own terms, compromises must be made somewhere in life), and not remove their freedom to make their own decisions irrespective of their gender.
I can see that the oppressive way Islamic fundamentalist regimes treat women is a twisted version of what Islam intends. However, my personal opinion is that what Islam intends isn't that great in the first place. Don't take that as an insult to Islam, it's not. It just means I have different ideals.
women do have a good role in islam, they are not discouraged from working etc. but once they have children, then they are, because they have to raise them, and believe me, if u ever met a muslim women, they are NOT in anyway opressed, they run the house man, trust me
but i can see how some people would find that it is opressive (but its not man, trust me) :D
right, im off home, should be back soon, l8rz
actually nothing could be closer to the truth...Quote:
Originally posted by barrk
:confused: Nothing could be farther from the truth. If I gave you that impression I am sorry. Examine my responses again without the eyes of hatred..........oh and forget that I'm a woman. I think that may be coloring your judgement.
enough saidQuote:
that may be coloring your judgement.
My cat's breath smells like cat-food
Thanks, Jamie. I needed to know that. :rolleyes:
what you been doingQuote:
Originally posted by plenderj
My breath smells like cat-food
eating cat food?
Not really... what are you getting at? You're talking but you're not actually saying anything.Quote:
Originally posted by kovan
enough said
i am pretty sure she undrestands
Who told you I was eating cat food too ?!
read your quote in my post
Err... maybe she's psychic or maybe I'm missing something, but I can't see anything that would be even an indirect insult to Islam in what Katie said. Did you send her a message I can't see here explaining it or something? Perhaps you see insults that aren't there. Perhaps the problem is in your own mind.Quote:
Originally posted by kovan
i am pretty sure she undrestands
Yes I read the quote and I want to know who told you I eat cat-food too ? If it was the cats I'll kill 'em.... its supposed to be a secret.
... all the more reason to give your money to me teeheehee :)
mmmmmm, arguments
mmmmmm, not gonna participate
mmmmmm, made my point
No, Kovan, I don't understand. I was disagreeing with you....not Islam. If you can't see the distinction then please explain because you are being very cryptic.Quote:
Originally posted by kovan
i am pretty sure she undrestands
Cryptic implies that there is a hidden meaning. That is not the case. I have never seen one of Kovan's posts that made any sense at all!! :p Kovan, get back to ur speech program.. at least i could understand a small percentage of what u said with that!! :DQuote:
Originally posted by barrk
No, Kovan, I don't understand. I was disagreeing with you....not Islam. If you can't see the distinction then please explain because you are being very cryptic.
Hoo aboot that!
same pilots that blew up the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade?Quote:
Originally posted by honeybee
hmm.... interesting. :p
They are US pilots, not some villagers. Just in case it didn't occur to you... ;)
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