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How elderly has the membership actually become here by now? It must still be trending toward the lower end, because I don't see much cane-waving here over the impending cuts in payroll tax pension systems. Yet long term care seems to be on the radar, so I'm not sure where we're at.
I wasn't aware of the impending cuts in payroll tax pension systems, so I looked them up. That's wild, in that new hires will have a surcharge added unless they agree to work "at-will".
I actually assumed most jobs were at-will and didn't realize that federal jobs were exempt. I guess with my preexisting cynical view on the government, it doesn't really surprise me that's the case.
We should be getting snow in Idaho. Average high temperatures mid-December through January are below freezing. Instead we are getting rain and 45-60 degree temperatures, mostly thanks to the Pineapple Express weather pattern.
That reminds me, I had someone remark that (because it was chilly for Halloween) this year is the first year it's felt cold on Halloween and that when we were growing up it was much colder.
I didn't argue with him, but I was fairly certain that wasn't the case.
So, like a typical nerd I gathered the data and plotted it out.
Here's the data in case you wanted to see it:
Year Min Mean Max 1985 60.1 66 75.9 1986 48.9 62.4 77 1987 46 62.6 78.1 1988 63 68.6 73 1989 62.1 68.7 75 1990 52 68.7 80.1 1991 69.1 74.3 80.1 1992 61.9 72.8 81 1993 36 41.9 50 1994 56.8 68.9 79 1995 59.9 70.6 79 1996 69.8 76.9 84.2 1997 64.4 72.4 78.8 1998 60.8 72.4 80.6 1999 62.6 69.1 73.4 2000 59 73.2 84.2 2001 55.4 69.8 78.8 2002 55.4 66.5 71.6 2003 60.8 75.3 84.2 2004 69.8 77.2 82.4 2005 73.4 74.4 75.2 2006 63.5 70.6 81.9 2007 61.7 68.4 79.3 2008 51.6 61.1 73.4 2009 63.7 66.6 69.3 2010 59.4 66.8 77.4 2011 51.6 60.1 71.6 2012 50.4 60.4 77.2 2013 71.8 75.7 81.1 2014 54.1 62.9 74.8 2015 68.5 75.9 83.3 2016 62.8 72.7 84.2 2017 54.7 63.6 74.3 2018 69.1 74.7 82.4 2019 49.6 62.4 77 2020 53.6 60.3 73.4 2021 54.5 63.1 74.7 2022 56.1 65.1 76.1 2023 49.3 55 61.7 2024 74.3 76.9 80.8 2025 45 53.69 70
Basically, outside of 1993 when it was stupid cold, it's more or less stayed constant.
Although, there were a few years where the low for the day was close to the high.
That's an exceptional oversight!Quote:
Originally Posted by dday9
I think we're averaging pretty elderly, though if you mean the lower end of what would be considered elderly...that may well be the case. At one point (you may remember) there was a poll where the average age was fairly young. That might have been twenty years back, and some of those folks are still around.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
I'm not elderly, but I can certainly see it in many of our more active members here.
Elderly isn't the right word. More like many of our members tend to fall between "approaching retirement" and "been retired for a few years", obviously with outliers on both ends, but that's my overall impression.
Do you have a link for this (not a video, please)? I took a look, and found things, but I don't know if I was looking at what you were talking about. What I was seeing didn't impress me for a couple of reasons. The first is that it is not the last minute, yet, so I'm not surprised that nobody is really squawking, yet. Also, what I was seeing didn't fit well with DDay's reply, so I think I was looking at the wrong thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
Though it looks like they WERE kind of right, since this year was quite a bit colder than the average. I mean the mean was meaner.Quote:
Originally Posted by dday9
I can't seem to find any information on what your talking about. Can you suggest a link or search criteria?Quote:
Originally Posted by dday9
Thanks dday.
That doesn't feel legal but then again I don't know how their civil service protections were reached to begin with. Are they negotiated or are they completely controlled by congress?
Here in CA we have a real problem civil service retirement costs. They pay a generous amount and there's a segment of the workers (like firemen/police) that have learned the trick of getting to the years of service needed to retire, go to the DR and say you have a back problem and then retire for medical caused by the job and receive full pensions. So there receiving their pensions for the next 40yrs.
Well I was referring to the US Social Security system myself, I was just trying to be more inclusive in my phrasing.
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/
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The Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund will be able to pay 100 percent of total scheduled benefits until 2033, unchanged from last year’s report. At that time, the fund’s reserves will become depleted and continuing program income will be sufficient to pay 77 percent of total scheduled benefits.
That's the story I was finding. Do we EVER deal with a crisis before the last minute anymore? That one is solvable. Whether or not we solve it...that remains to be seen.
I took about a two week break from my AI, but got back into it two days ago. Coding and upgrading it's roadmap at the same time.
Upgrading it's roadmap with improvements to it's engine.