somehow this has made 4 pagesAnytime ;)Quote:
Nice work on the locking issue, worked brilliantly...
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somehow this has made 4 pagesAnytime ;)Quote:
Nice work on the locking issue, worked brilliantly...
At the very least, I have started a hell of a thread.:p
Apart from the post race I don't think i've ever seen a thread make 4 pages so quick.Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
At the very least, I have started a hell of a thread.:p
I think the nukem thread did......ummmmmmm I see a similarity here.:rolleyes:
Katie, In his last statment, I notice he is saying that you are to stupid to argue/debate
Me and Mike got one closed the quickest :D
That happened before I bothered with Chit Chat.Quote:
I think the nukem thread did......ummmmmmm I see a similarity here
I understand that Simon...but since he really has nothing to base that statement on besides this one thread I figured he was showing which one of us was really the unintelligent one...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by chenko
Katie, In his last statment, I notice he is saying that you are to stupid to argue/debate
It's nice to see that you all know each other, no wonder I am getting hammered so bad.
Chenko/Simon,
That just shows your immaturity and/or ignorance.
Katie/barrk,
By agreeing, that shows your's too.
Most of you all act like a bunch of children.
Phhhht! the way you say it you make it sound like a bad thing! :pQuote:
Originally posted by stevess
Most of you all act like a bunch of children.
Chill out, have fun! Don't be so defensive!
P.S. I once spent a summer re-writing a system originally written by someone who thought that quick, short code was the best way to go. Believe me, in industry speed is nothing. Readability and Maintainability is everything.
SD
I'm not going to ***** at you, but you should know that we are like a little community and if you pick on one of us, the rest will invariably join in.Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
It's nice to see that you all know each other, no wonder I am getting hammered so bad.
The best thing to do is sit back, relax and just chill. If i've said something nasty I often regret it afterwards, so it's a good idea to chill before reacting, and that goes for all of you, not just steve.
SD: The No comment-kid was it? I know the type! ;)
Nice to see your ego is under control Steve, and your point is!Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
Most of you all act like a bunch of children.
Readability and Maintainability have nothing to do with speed at all. Naming a variable x or lTestCount, has no bearing on speed. I am 100% for descriptive code.
Jethro,
You are most childish and over-defensive yet. You are the epitome of "Don't tell me I'm wrong or I will hit you!"
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"The epitome of stupidity is not knowing how to say epitome"
Or perhaps, how to spell it. :D
Good to see you took note of what I said steve:rolleyes:
hey... i can be childish and overly defensive too, don't leave me out!!
Chris.
I am not a passivist, I will say things as I see them. I watched all the comments made before I finally chimed in.
I am not here to be "loved". I am a very secure person, I don't care if people like what I sat or not.
That should be:
...people like what I say or not.
good because i happen to hate what you sat...
Your choice. But you will be driven outta town. People will start to ignore you/your questions/your advice then they'll be no point you saying anything, then those who orchestrated the campaign against you would have won.
I am far from the passivist (just look at some of my aurguments), but sometimes it is better to not get peoples' back's up.
True, but I was actually refering to your comments about you liking to do things in the smallest amount of code.Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
Readability and Maintainability have nothing to do with speed at all. Naming a variable x or lTestCount, has no bearing on speed. I am 100% for descriptive code.
So what would you pick as a good coding from the following two routines
orCode:sOutput = mid$(sOldString,instr(1,sOldString,".")+1)
??Code:iPosOfDot = instr(1,sOldString,".")
sOutput = mid$(sOldString, iPosOfDot + 1)
SD
Yes but, the people that I am helping are not the people posting in this thread. EVERYONE that has posted a reply in this thread is far beyond needing help from anybody (apparantly), so it doesn't matter.
I have only been a member of this forum for a month or two, I have helped a lot of people, screw anyone that doesn't see that.
All of the "you are arrogant, don't talk to me" crowd can eat $#@%.
I am not a senior programmer, but I am definitely not a beginner either.
SurfDemon,
I would pick #2 without hesitation.
I like "clean code", there would be no speed loss in using the second example.
I would pick #2 too. :D
#1 is fractionally more efficent, but not enough to make a difference.
I still think you should chill out. People aren't ganging up on you (well maybe a little), but it's probably because you do come across as being arrogant. Try wording things more gently, and try seeing the other persons point of view. Certainly, there is little to be gained by openly slagging (insulting) somebody elses code. Everyone here helps out everyone else. It's a good community, I'm sure you'll enjoy it alot more if you weren't so angry all the time. So relax, think happy thoughts and enjoy the forum.
SD
SurfDemon,
Look at the original post in this thread, my point was that that code is extremely unreadable and non-descriptive. If you have seen any of my code posts, you will see that I Dim every variable on a separate line, and that they are generally representative of what they are for.
There is no no need to be cryptic in order to achieve the fastest code possible. (unless you're using VB3)
Who said that?!? I certainly didn't!Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
EVERYONE that has posted a reply in this thread is far beyond needing help from anybody (apparantly)
Well, whatever, I'm not going to argue the toss over it, suffice to say that people do read threads like this without actually participating.
I can't believe your "I am not here to be "loved". I am a very secure person, I don't care if people like what I sat or not" attitude gets you very far in life, but who am I to diss it.
I am not angry, never have been. If you read my posts I think you will find that the negative comments here are unwarranted.
I challenge anyone to show where I have "insulted" or "slammed" someones code. I have only questioned it. I have never said "your code is crap" or anything similar.
I would go for No. 2, but it depends on the circumstance. For example something more complex provided I could work it out straight away, something like thisQuote:
Originally posted by SurfDemon
So what would you pick as a good coding from the following two routines
which simply removes the last character from a string.VB Code:
chris,
Ask any CEO, being confident and not afraid to say what's on your mind, will get get you farther than any other trait that you have.Quote:
I can't believe your "I am not here to be "loved". I am a very secure person, I don't care if people like what I sat or not" attitude gets you very far in life, but who am I to diss it.
In those weekly dept. meetings, never saying anything will get you nowhere. Speak your mind, within reason, and you'll get noticed (and remembered). Just think before you speak,
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Originally posted by stevess
SurfDemon,
Look at the original post in this thread, my point was that that code is extremely unreadable and non-descriptive. If you have seen any of my code posts, you will see that I Dim every variable on a separate line, and that they are generally representative of what they are for.
There is no no need to be cryptic in order to achieve the fastest code possible. (unless you're using VB3)
mmmm, I found this one straight away :D
If one of my developers wrote this I would have cut their beer ration...;)Quote:
comp = instr(1, " " & text1 & " ", " abc ", vbBinaryCompare)
If comp <> 0 then msgbox "Match found"
But, I think this proves the point. I'm sure you normally write much neater code than this, but you're just quickly throwing something up on the website to show somebody how to do something. Well, thats what everyone else is doing, they don't expect or appreciate being insulted for it.
Oh, and I did come across a couple of comments from you which i certainly construed to be insulting other peoples answers.
Cheers,
SD
That's the key! It's also the point I've been trying to make, "within reason"!Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
Speak your mind, within reason
Taken out of context, I see your point, but that was relevent to the question that was asked.Quote:
If one of my developers wrote this I would have cut their beer ration...
Show me!Quote:
Oh, and I did come across a couple of comments from you which i certainly construed to be insulting other peoples answers.
Okay, I'm here. Sorry, but speaking your mind can be a good thing when tempered with reason and understanding. I would rather have a quiet team player anyday than someone who was outspoken. There is a line, which if you step over will instantly mark you as having a negative attitude.Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
chris,
Ask any CEO, being confident and not afraid to say what's on your mind, will get get you farther than any other trait that you have.
True, I'd want to know if things were going wrong, but alot of people do this without being outspoken. In fact I have one very quiet guy working for me. If he complains about anything i fix it as I know it's REALY important if he's plucked up the courage to say anything. I have had one loud mouthed employee who moaned about everything instead of fixing things, I never paid any attention to him (the boy who cried wolf). he's gone.
*ahem*Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
Show me!
SurfDemon
Totally agree with your comments. Stevess has an attitude which he doesn't appear aware of.
Stevess
Yeah lets just blast everyone else's code, that way John wont have to worry about getting new servers in the future. No one will bother posting.
Get over the attitude.
I never said I was "loud mouthed" or "talking crap without a solution". I said "within reason", if you can't get your point across calmly, then you should shut up. I am just as comfortable telling the CEO what I think as I am telling my immediate superior. It's all how you present your opinion.
As I have stated previously, I am not uptight, or loud, or overconfident, I just say what I think, I am opened to being shot down for any valid reason.
I just state my opinions, and my superiors want to hear those opinions, even if they disregard them as nonsense.
Good managers recognize the fact that their employees can, occasionally, have good ideas.
I want to play
what about this one where all you did was dis on Jehtro and his code and never shown any code of your own to help the poor guy out.
http://161.58.186.97/showthread.php?threadid=84230
and yes SD I was thinking of that one too.
scoutt,
Is that the best you could come up with? Jethro was rude to Gaffer, and that influenced my response. But even still, I don't see how Jethro's code helped at all. HE was the first to critisize, not me. And then he reacted with insults because his precious code had been critisized.
He stated that he "knew" the poster and "knew" what he meant. Does that mean that the rest of us should "know" what the poster really means? I don't know who he is, I can only go by the question that was posted.
Thank you Scoutt & Jethro!
Now Stevess, don't take this the wrong way. But is there possibly any way that all of us can have got the wrong opinion of you? If we have, then I suggest that maybe you do try thinking before you start spouting off. Try to see things from the other persons point of view and be a bit more understanding.
That's just friendly advice, you can ignore it if you want obviously, I'm just trying to be helpful.
:)
SD
I was thinking of the post
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By Stevess
Don't criticize what you can't even figure out on your own. This is pretty basic stuff, so why would we think that you were anywhere near prepared to start using classes.
and
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I can't help but be completely amazed at the responses to this post. I am not criticizing anyones code, but...........
As far as I know, less code is better (usually, and I think it applies here).
HeSaidJoe,
I here ya', but you still have to TYPE every string you want to allow for. ??????????????? Why?
Simple is better as long as it works. End of story.
Over coding is a bad habit, look for simple solutions first.
and
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What is this post supposed to mean?
and
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Vlatco & Adamcox both supplied the same answer:
MsgBox a + b
and that will work, it's just bad code (Implicit Conversions)
and
Interesting theory about writing your own functions.....Quote:
You're looking for functions that will interpret your BAD code correctly. MS has been nicest enough to try and provide what you are looking for.
Speaking from experience, I (we) do NOT use even the simplest VB functions, such as FORMAT, we write our own.
SD
Gee, this is like stamping things in concrete.Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
scoutt,
Is that the best you could come up with? Jethro was rude to Gaffer, and that influenced my response. But even still, I don't see how Jethro's code helped at all. HE was the first to critisize, not me. And then he reacted with insults because his precious code had been critisized.
He stated that he "knew" the poster and "knew" what he meant. Does that mean that the rest of us should "know" what the poster really means? I don't know who he is, I can only go by the question that was posted.
1. I was not being rude to gaffa, (thinking you mean the avatar comment), he will return the comment with interest in due course.
2. Yes l know Kovan (on site, having exchanged many a posting tussle with the guy). He is or was doing a vb exam. And l did not state that l "knew" what he meant, merely pointed out that here's some code but probably more complex requirement.
3. If you can't see how the code would help, perhaps you ain't as good a coder as you seem to think you are.
The purpose of these forums is to ask questions and help others, not to put up with arrogant people like yourself.
and
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Placing any code in a Property Get generally indicates a bad design
Yes.Quote:
Now Stevess, don't take this the wrong way. But is there possibly any way that all of us can have got the wrong opinion of you?
If you read those threads, I may have been a liitle coarse, but they were valid questions for what had been posted.
I think that most of the opinions here are based on what has been said here, not on what I have posted.
You are all just a big happy family.
I don't see any of the examples above as any thing that bad, unless the recipient was over sensative.
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Quote:
Placing any code in a Property Get generally indicates a bad design
Read the whole thread, what the heck is wrong with that?
Is that critisizing someone?
Generally speaking, if you have anything more than simple code in a Property Get, that's bad code. If you don't agree, then you don't what you are doing.
Now thats were we differ. On the web it's easy for people to misconstrue what mood you are in (hence the smilies etc.). To me, all of these statements come across as incredibly arrogant, and I'm sure others think the same way. If you posted anything like that about any of my code I would be right in there with all guns blazing :)Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
I don't see any of the examples above as any thing that bad, unless the recipient was over sensative.
If you see nothing wrong with them, then thats fair enough, keep posting as you're going, but pretty soon you will find that people have blocked you.....
Like I say, just some friendly advice.
SD
:eek: :eek: :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
Yes.
If you read those threads, I may have been a liitle coarse, but they were valid questions for what had been posted.
I think that most of the opinions here are based on what has been said here, not on what I have posted.
You are all just a big happy family.
I don't see any of the examples above as any thing that bad, unless the recipient was over sensative.
Hey its nukem without the swearing
Is this something you have never heard of??Quote:
Interesting theory about writing your own functions.....
Can you not grasp writing your own Format fuction?
If you can trust VB to do all your formatting then you must be working on a pretty simple app.
And...Yes...I am starting to get a little more "froggy".
You actually said no code.... that would make it pretty hard to use!Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Read the whole thread, what the heck is wrong with that?
Is that critisizing someone?
Generally speaking, if you have anything more than simple code in a Property Get, that's bad code. If you don't agree, then you don't what you are doing.
As for the quote in bold..... absolutely classic! I couldn't have proved you're arrogance better. I happen to agree that code should be kept to a minimum in properties, but I would never dream of being so arrogant as to acuse someone of "not knowing what they're doing":D
Tell me, you don't see anything wrong with that statement.
If you don't, then you are as thick as too short planks.
(That was me just rephrasing you're statement by the way:))
SD
Quote:
Originally posted by Jethro
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Hey its nukem without the swearing
And the death-threats :eek:
It was actually quite funny when he said he was going to come down to Va. with his friends and beat me up... I wasn't worried 'cause I knew he didn't have any friends.....
I kinda miss picking on that little ****er... :D:D:D
And once he scores an own goal!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
Is this something you have never heard of??
Can you not grasp writing your own Format fuction?
If you can trust VB to do all your formatting then you must be working on a pretty simple app.
And...Yes...I am starting to get a little more "froggy".
You're sitting there insulting my programming skills and you have no idea what i can do :)
You're statement was that you always re-write functions and never use the VB one's. Again if you worked for me I would sack you for wasting time. Most of the VB functions work fine. Do you rewrite Instr or Split or Int.... if you don't then you're original statement is bollocks, if you do then you are in a sorry state!
SD
Sorry the computer I am on is loading the forums really slow. I have found a bunch more. but it seems that SD has posted them faster then I.Quote:
originally posted by stevess
scoutt,
Is that the best you could come up with? Jethro was rude to Gaffer, and that influenced my response.
I am sure Gaffa is a big boy and can take care of himself, beside he knows what playing around is as oppesed to you. mister seious all the time.
so you are going to sit here and argue with everybody and say that you don't have an attitude when everybody sees it? you are starting to act like DBC but you forget to say sorry and then turn around and call them names. we are here to learn and sometimes take a side route to a little laughter.
case in point, I posted a thread about a month ago and Jethro answered it with a pun form another thread we had discussed on and HB came and bitched out Jethro for saying that. I knew what was what and thought it actually funny. same goes with Gaffa, he knows and I'm sure will get back to Jethro.
I'm sorry dude but you take things too seroius and you do come off a little strong.
...5 pages...
Dennis
Would also presuppose that he could find Virgina, after all he couldn't find his ass with both hands;) He had a nice graps of English though.
Scoutt
Got over the thing with HB, and he has promised to improve his act, as l promised to improve mine:rolleyes:
Stevess
Don't worry about gaffa, he will come back with all guns blazing in due course. It's called humour, which is clearly lacking in the South.
SD
Fast work on the threads, remind me never to get you off side:eek:
InStr..yep, rewrote it. Check out Oracles InStr function, blows VB's away, so we wrote our own to match (and then some) Oracle's.Quote:
Do you rewrite Instr or Split or Int...
Split..It's new, we had our own before VB6 ever came out.
Int..Nope, it works OK.
If ou don't think VB's functions are limited, then you have never been challenged.
I am from New York. I am just temporarily stuck in the damn South.
I'm afraid, if you worked for me you would already be packing your stuff :) You're employers must love wasting their money on you.Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
InStr..yep, rewrote it. Check out Oracles InStr function, blows VB's away, so we wrote our own to match (and then some) Oracle's.
Split..It's new, we had our own before VB6 ever came out.
Int..Nope, it works OK.
If ou don't think VB's functions are limited, then you have never been challenged.
And oh look, another arrogant statement :If ou don't think VB's functions are limited, then you have never been challenged.
Maybe we find it easier to overcome these "challenges" than you. You strike me as being fairly new to programming. Are you? Maybe we just know how to use VB properly? Some of the systems I have worked on would blow you away.
I started off being quite even handed, but I have to say Stevess I am losing patience with your unbelievable arrogance. Trust me. You come across really badly. You should stop making statements like
If you don't do X then you're stupid.
SD
Jethro, I know that, I was just using it as an example.
So Stevess you can write your own functions, well i wrote this bad-a$$ function that blows eveything out of the water but I can't tell you about it or show you the code.
:o Gee, you could take your bat and ball and go home.Quote:
Originally posted by stevess
Jethro,
You are most childish and over-defensive yet. You are the epitome of "Don't tell me I'm wrong or I will hit you!"
Very ironic, you are clearly externalising your own deep setted anger onto me. Now Steve, take a good long breath, "In with the good, out with the bad".
Am quite happy to admit when l am wrong, but that presupposes that the person proving it has at less a four year olds ability to read and comprehend what is being stated.
From your postings in various threads, l have to wonder if you need remedial comprehension lessons;)
SD
Are we playing good cop bad cop, or am l just in one of those moods.
No worries of that mate. You have a sense of humour :DQuote:
Originally posted by Jethro
SD
Fast work on the threads, remind me never to get you off side:eek:
SD