FORUM ISSUES: Report Upgraded Issues in this thread

Well there was a hack if I remember correctly to the ratings display (prevent rep'ing in non-tech forum(s)). [speculation]It may have been reintroduced after the upgrade causing the icon to display on every post and forum but ran into troubles and reverted back to default.[/speculation]

I have a couple of vB forums and for this version the way it is now is the default out of the box

We have installed an add-in/mod for reputations. That is correct. It allows us to turn of f reps in forums where the discussion is not relevant. As RobDog said - you can't rate your own post, so the icon dosn't show there. You have to go through settings to see your points. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by brad jones

I was told these items were fixed.

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Nice. Its better but not exactly fixed. It word wraps which tend to make snippets with long lines of code look unreadable. Eg:-

vbnet Code:

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    Public Shared Sub ScSend(ByVal sc As Threading.SynchronizationContext, ByVal del As [Delegate], ByVal ParamArray args() As Object)
        sc.Send(New Threading.SendOrPostCallback(AddressOf ProperDelegate), New ThreadExtensions With {.args = args, .DelegateToInvoke = del})
    End Sub

It works properly in 'Preview post' but not when its actually posted.

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Originally Posted by Niya

Nice. Its better but not exactly fixed. It word wraps which tend to make snippets with long lines of code look unreadable. Eg:-

It works properly in 'Preview post' but not when its actually posted.

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I see the wordwrap in IE 9 but FireFox v14.01 looks OK, except after nine lines the numbers on the left are still broken...
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EDIT btw, the "PHP Code:" window doesn't have a horiz bar in either IE9 or Firefox and lines wrap around.

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Originally Posted by Edgemeal

I see the wordwrap in IE 9 but FireFox v14.01 looks OK, except after nine lines the numbers on the left are still broken...

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I use Chrome and it word wraps there too. It used to work fine in all browsers before the upgrade.

Seems like search is still not working.

What is the status of this?

If you goto this group: http://www.vbforums.com/group.php?groupid=12
You could see that, the left box showing the members are muddy. I have attached a screenshot when viewed in latest Google Chrome.

Also, when we click the "insert hyperlink" icon from the editor window, it asks for the link. If enters a link and presses the ok button, it will just insert the url with bbcode and the caret will be at the end. If I remember correctly, before upgrade the working was like: enters the link, then when pressed OK button it asks for the text to be displayed. And when text is entered and pressed the OK button, it inserts the bbcode and the text_to_display will be highlighted. This was more helpful!!

:wave:

The last two items I have are these:

1) Quick reply needs the code tags. They were there, and I rarely used anything else. I find that I am now typing in the tags rather than Go Advanced. Therefore, if they could be returned, it would make my life ever so slightly better.

2) The difference between read and unread threads is so faint that I can barely see it. In comparison, there is a HUGE difference between threads with lots of views and threads with few views, yet the distinction between those two is FAR less important than the distinction between read and unread. This may not be changeable, but make this one vote against the pastel faintness that people are going to.

3) Speed. It's actually pretty good for me, most of the time. Still, if it was faster, it would be better, so this is always an area where improvements are welcome. (This third item isn't a complaint, it is kind of a placeholder, because it wouldn't really matter to me whether or not it was addressed).

Jesus. This is so slow. Can't work with it. Forget about it. I'll leave.
Take more the 20 seconds to load each page fully.

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Originally Posted by NiTrOwow

Jesus. This is so slow. Can't work with it. Forget about it. I'll leave.
Take more the 20 seconds to load each page fully.

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It isn't that slow any more. Its almost back to normal performance.

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Originally Posted by Niya

It isn't that slow any more. Its almost back to normal performance.

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Are you kidding me? This website is slower then a free hosting company for me. And big website are never slow on my connection. Anything has to run fine. Strange.

Well its not quite back to its original performance but its closer than its ever been since the upgrade.

Don't know if a gremlin crept in but I replied to this thread: http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...Error-Handling but the Green Icon with the white Tick ("You have posted in this thread") does not appear when listing the threads.

It was quite soon after the upgrade so perhaps it was just a temporary glitch - hasn't happened since.

Just discovered a major problem - and it's new.

Enter a quick reply - click SUBMIT button - wait the now new 10 seconds...

and it gives you the "You are about to navigate away..." pop-up message.

Obviously "about to navigate away" - I submitted a reply!

Not clearing the "dirty" flag properly??

Lets see what happens

I waited the normal time after posting that last quick reply, but I received no pop up messages.

Steve: What browser are you using?

Did it happen to you? Happened twice to me this morning and then once it did not happen. Let's see about quick reply...

It did not happen on this quick reply...

I'm using IE8 on this box...

Reply to thread - not quick reply...

ok - it's not happening right now. Is that alert "time based" at all??

I'm using IE8 as well and this will be my third quick reply and thus far (knock on simulated wood) I have not received that popup you mentioned.

Edit: Nope....didn't get it. You must have hit the right thing at the wrong time. :)

Yeah - I can't make it happen again - created a thread in the TEST FORUM and tried to replicate - no luck.

The speed issues are really painful - took at least 25 seconds for this page to load from clicking on the "link" to go to the last post from the NEW POSTS page.

btw - I typed long enough for AUTOSAVE to flash - let's see if the pop-up happens now

[edit] - nope - no popup now either [/edit]

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Huh... the blue reply button worked for me as you expected... it took me to the full reply screen...

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Yep, I'm now convinced this is a technical issue. When I hit the "+ Reply to Thread" button I get a swirly set of dots for a couple of seconds (which I assume means "loading page") but then, in stead of being taken to the Reply page I just get returned to the main thread page, as if I hadn't clicked anything.

This is on IE8 but it's also worth mentioning that I'm inside a government network and come of the infrastucture they've got set up can be... erm... unusual. From home this works fine.

You guys need to realize that IE is not a real browser, its a tool Microsoft provides to download FireFox :D

On a serious note, the forums do display different behaviors in different browsers. The highlight tags don't word wrap in FireFox which is good but it does in Chrome.

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Originally Posted by Niya

You guys need to realize that IE is not a real browser, its a tool Microsoft provides to download FireFox :D

On a serious note, the forums do display different behaviors in different browsers. The highlight tags don't word wrap in FireFox which is good but it does in Chrome.

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I develop with FF - so it's not a good choice for browsing from my "work" machine as it's got all that FIREBUG stuff and what not setup..

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Originally Posted by szlamany

Yeah - I can't make it happen again - created a thread in the TEST FORUM and tried to replicate - no luck.

The speed issues are really painful - took at least 25 seconds for this page to load from clicking on the "link" to go to the last post from the NEW POSTS page.

btw - I typed long enough for AUTOSAVE to flash - let's see if the pop-up happens now

[edit] - nope - no popup now either [/edit]

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Made it happen again - but can't duplicate it.

I clicked on two links - #1 followed by #2 - and got this message.

There was no posting on the page going on anyway - so it's a complete red herring

Ive gotten that a couple times.... I use chrome.... so its not the browser....

-tg

Try clearing any vbforums.com cookies.

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Originally Posted by techgnome

Ive gotten that a couple times.... I use chrome.... so its not the browser....

-tg

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Happened to me once on Sunday - I assumed it was just my finger trouble.

Woot The Formatting Shortcut keys are Operational Again.

Hurrah for the hard working VbForum Elves.:)

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Originally Posted by szlamany

Just discovered a major problem - and it's new.

Enter a quick reply - click SUBMIT button - wait the now new 10 seconds...

and it gives you the "You are about to navigate away..." pop-up message.

Obviously "about to navigate away" - I submitted a reply!

Not clearing the "dirty" flag properly??

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We noticed this issue and I believe settings were tweaked. They might need more tweaking (php config variables and vB setting) but it happens more noticeably on slower connections. should be resolved soon in time.

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Originally Posted by Niya

Well its not quite back to its original performance but its closer than its ever been since the upgrade.

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For a while this is true but after a few navigations and a posting or two there is still a point at which it becomes far quicker to close the page altogether and start again from scratch. It's almost worse to have an unpredictable slowness/freeze than to know what you're going to get!

Just a comment about the vbCode tags.

They are nice, with the color syntax, but the line numbers make it a pain to cut & paste the code. With
the previous web design, there was a button, QUOTE, I think, that gave access to the code without the
line numbers, but that seems not to have made into the upgrade.

I guess the line numbers allow posters to refer a portion of code they want to discuss, can't think of any
other reason. They would be fine if you just remove the periods, i. e. 1. 2. ... 10. since my IDE (vb6) allows
line numbers, but not the periods.

One other comment: In the main forum window, I don't get any highlighting to show I've been there.
Using FF for browser.

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Originally Posted by dunfiddlin

For a while this is true but after a few navigations and a posting or two there is still a point at which it becomes far quicker to close the page altogether and start again from scratch. It's almost worse to have an unpredictable slowness/freeze than to know what you're going to get!

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I have the same experience. For instance, after editing a post, the submission takes forever to complete most of the times. More than often it'll error out (connection reset by server or database error) or pops up the famous "you're leaving this page..." message.

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Originally Posted by szlamany

Just discovered a major problem - and it's new.

Enter a quick reply - click SUBMIT button - wait the now new 10 seconds...

and it gives you the "You are about to navigate away..." pop-up message.

Obviously "about to navigate away" - I submitted a reply!

Not clearing the "dirty" flag properly??

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I have the same issue using FF 14.0.1. i also got a double-post...

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Originally Posted by VBClassicRocks

Just a comment about the vbCode tags.

They are nice, with the color syntax, but the line numbers make it a pain to cut & paste the code. With
the previous web design, there was a button, QUOTE, I think, that gave access to the code without the
line numbers, but that seems not to have made into the upgrade.

I guess the line numbers allow posters to refer a portion of code they want to discuss, can't think of any
other reason. They would be fine if you just remove the periods, i. e. 1. 2. ... 10. since my IDE (vb6) allows
line numbers, but not the periods.

One other comment: In the main forum window, I don't get any highlighting to show I've been there.
Using FF for browser.

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If you do a search for .paul. in the CodeBank, I am fairly sure that he created a plugin for Visual Studio that allowed you to paste the content from the code tags, which would then strip out all the line numbers.

Gary

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Originally Posted by FunkyDexter

Hurrah for the hard working VbForum Elves.:)

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I second that - It's a rotten job but somebody has to do it!

BTW is 'Autosave' a new feature? I hadn't noticed it before.

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Originally Posted by Doogle

BTW is 'Autosave' a new feature? I hadn't noticed it before.

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Yip, that is new.

The Reply To Thread button is now operating correctly as well. Now if we can just get the Breadcrumbs added back to the bottom of the threads, a proper shade of blue and the facility to request a free cup of tea and a biscuit I'll feel right at home again.

Keep it up, guys.:thumb:



edit>Scrap that. No it isn't. I guess it's working intermittently.

Forum speed has increase dramatically since the upgrade. Still some more speed needed but its a huge database and hope they threw some new hardware at it as part of hte upgrade

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

Forum speed has increase dramatically since the upgrade. Still some more speed needed but its a huge database and hope they threw some new hardware at it as part of hte upgrade

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forum has been very slow at times today...

Yea I got a 404 error when making that post. I wonder if its fine for browsing/reading but any inserts or updates it drags

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Originally Posted by RobDog888

Forum speed has increase dramatically since the upgrade. Still some more speed needed but its a huge database and hope they threw some new hardware at it as part of hte upgrade

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forum has been very slow at times today...

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Originally Posted by .paul.

forum has been very slow at times today...

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It's had two settings (like British trains!) - slow and stop! Database errors, hangs, freezes. Had it all. It's verging ever closer to unusable.

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Originally Posted by dunfiddlin

It's verging ever closer to unusable.

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that's what i've been thinking...

Just been on this morning, and it is getting more like the old VBForums, much more responsive :)

Gary

By contrast, this is the first time the site has responded for me today.

My first attempt this morning resulted in no response. Since I was able to get here, all has been well and fast. Basically, it has been a total mixed bag over the last few days. Yesterday I had to abandon the site for a few minutes, as I couldn't post anything. For two days before that, I wasn't able to get on at all....but that was because I was out in the woods and had no connection.

It seems to be improving slowly, with occasional setbacks.

I'd have to say that performance is maddeningly inconsistent. I just replied to something, hit the Post Quick Reply button, then waited. Eventually, I got that dialog about navigating away from the page. I'm not sure whether it matters which one you choose, but I chose the one for going ahead with leaving the page. I then went to eat lunch, as nothing was happening. When I got back, I was still looking at my quick reply, as if it hadn't posted at all. I hadn't navigated anywhere. Fortunately, I knew enough not to hit Post Quick Reply again, but just reloaded the thread. Sure enough, my post was there. Had I hit the button, as one might reasonably do, since nothing appeared to happen the first time I hit it, I would have had a double post.

This happens rarely, but not so rare that I haven't learned what to do. If a problem happens often enough that you learn a coping mechanism, it's a real problem. I would say that it will happen once in any half hour spent at the site. It only happens once, though, because I usually get tired of watching that wait cursor, and leave, so it is generally the last thing I do before closing my browser or going elsewhere.

Just happened again in a different way. When I posted that last comment, I got the same dialog. This time, when I opted to leave the page, I got a notice that the forum rules required me to wait a certain length of time before posting again, after which I was taken to what appeared to be the "Go Advanced" dialog. Since the post was already up, had I hit Submit on that page, I would have double posted. The fact that I got the message about not being allowed to post again so soon suggests that I was already double posting as a result of hitting the Post Quick Reply button.

I'm not impressed with that.

Now THAT's a problem I had from time to time under the old system... just with out the dialog asking me if I want to navigate aware from the page. And with the upgraded system, I sometimes get he dialog, but not always, in these potential double-post situations.

-tg

I'm seeing a lot more double posts, and making some of my own. I suspect that it has to do with the strange behavior of posting things. After that second post, I got the same sequence again, but decided not to say any more.

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Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker

I'm seeing a lot more double posts, and making some of my own. I suspect that it has to do with the strange behavior of posting things. After that second post, I got the same sequence again, but decided not to say any more.

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Yeah, post #156 is one! Maybe the time limit script is faulty?

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Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker

I'm seeing a lot more double posts, and making some of my own. I suspect that it has to do with the strange behavior of posting things. After that second post, I got the same sequence again, but decided not to say any more.

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Agreed, I am seeing lots of double posts as well. Where I can I have been clearing these out, but definitely something that needs to be looked into.

Gary

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Originally Posted by gep13

Agreed, I am seeing lots of double posts as well. Where I can I have been clearing these out, but definitely something that needs to be looked into.

Gary

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Looking at post #156 above I thought I only saw post #156 and #157 repeat yesterday! However, it looks like post #154 to post #157 are repeats although, I don't remember seeing this yesterday.

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Yea I got a 404 error when making that post. I wonder if its fine for browsing/reading but any inserts or updates it drags

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much of the time, since upgrade, i just get "waiting for vbforums.com" in the status bar, when trying to view a post or refresh the forum, sometimes goes to time out or server reset dialogs, sometimes loads pages after up to 10 minutes (browsing in some other tab, can see the page finally loads)
i was under the impression that double posting / leaving page issues were related to poor connection to server, rather than forum problem

code tag buttons for quick reply would be nice, i am sure they are ones used the most
i just figured out how to resize the quick reply box

After about the upgrade of the forum it got slow for me.
It takes atleast 20 seconds to lead each page fully, or even longer.

Maybe this helps a bit idk.
http://wss-data.com/imghost/images/436.png

I gotta say after the 2/3 weeks since the upgrade, my activity on the site has decreased alot. I love the look and feel of the new vbforums, but the performance has made it impossible to really use the site. Some days I can do my 5 - 10 post no biggie, but for the most part I'm having problems even navigating to the pages when I didn't have this problem before. I hope that the issues will be resolved, this is a great site, and I'd hate for activity to die out.

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Originally Posted by dday9

I gotta say after the 2/3 weeks since the upgrade, my activity on the site has decreased alot. I love the look and feel of the new vbforums, but the performance has made it impossible to really use the site. Some days I can do my 5 - 10 post no biggie, but for the most part I'm having problems even navigating to the pages when I didn't have this problem before. I hope that the issues will be resolved, this is a great site, and I'd hate for activity to die out.

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For me it is the same. They are losing members if they aint gonna fix it soon.

So hurry up a bit vbforums team!
:(

I started a new thread specific to speed, but I'll give a bit of a summary here too:

I had a meeting today with a number of people internally about the speed of this update. There are now a lot of internal people digging throught the forum internals and hardware to see what can be tweaked or changed. There have been several since the migration, but more have been pulled on. I was told that the vBulletin's support team has been brought in as well.

We know there is an issue. (You guys have made sure I know :) , and I've passed that along to the point just short of being annoying internally). It seems to be a hard issue, but it is one we know we have to get fixed. The update is.... they are still working on it. When they stop saying that, then I'll get concerned.

Brad!

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Originally Posted by dday9

I gotta say after the 2/3 weeks since the upgrade, my activity on the site has decreased alot.

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Me too.

Btw did you got the last pm i sent you?

Regards.