>If I quoted something from you, you wouldn't call it crap now would you. It is only my opinion that what you spout is crap.
Either you never took a debating class, or if you did, I'm sure you must have flunked. That's a piss poor response.
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>If I quoted something from you, you wouldn't call it crap now would you. It is only my opinion that what you spout is crap.
Either you never took a debating class, or if you did, I'm sure you must have flunked. That's a piss poor response.
my my, this is a fiery little number isn't it. And to think it started out dissing the frogs.
And that's how you graciously zip past and ignore hard hitting facts in a debate ...
Well done that man, you should get extra marks for that :rolleyes:
>How do you think the USA would react if there was a terrorist group killing civilians in your country. And what if this was being funded by donations within the UK?
HEY IDIOT, NO COUNTRY CONTROLS ALL OF IT'S CITIZENS! IF YOU THINK THAT THERE WAS ZERO FUNDING FROM THE UK IN SUPPORT OF AL-QAIDA, YOU'RE TOTALLY DELUSIONAL.
Trust me, your country donated more than some of it's very own citizens to Al-Qaida! You think we're holding you all responsible for this?
>How do you think the USA would react if there was a terrorist group killing civilians in your country. And what if this was being funded by donations within the UK?
Oh my God, I have to stare at that statement in amazement! To be that truly oblivious must be incredibly liberating.
Must be the Judge Judy Effect ...
*Sigh*Quote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
HEY IDIOT, NO COUNTRY CONTROLS ALL OF IT'S CITIZENS! IF YOU THINK THAT THERE WAS ZERO FUNDING FROM THE UK IN SUPPORT OF AL-QAIDA, YOU'RE TOTALLY DELUSIONAL.
Trust me, your country donated more than some of it's very own citizens to Al-Qaida! You think we're holding you all responsible for this?
Did anyone say they were holding all of the USA responsible for the few murderous idiots that fund the IRA and others? No. All we've said is that it might be a little bit friendlier of you to make that activity illegal. Some people here may have funded Al-Quaeda, but it is illegal, and they will be prosecuted and imprisoned for it if it can be proved in a court.
We're simply asking for the same courtesy.
>Must be the Judge Judy Effect ...
More slogan, no content.
Pots and kettles. :rolleyes: Any chance of addressing any of my points? Particularly that last one, or any from the list on the previous page...Quote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
More slogan, no content.
It probably would take too long to explain the concept of sarcasm to you and I'm not even sure why I should bother in the first place ...
Sweet dreams now. And enjoy your government giving you a good shagging once in a while. God knows ignorami like you deserve it.
:rolleyes: Just trying to turn this into a debate instead of "I'm right" ranting.
We need to think how far the war against terrorism will go, funding of terrorism must be clamped down upon on surely?
*Going along with Bonker's toned-down approach*
Colin Powell did say at a press conference in - I think - November that the USA considered the IRA to be a terrorist organistaion and that they would be included in the clampdown. Has there been any movement towards that, or has it been overlooked in the concentration on Al-Quaeda?
ID, thanks for at least discussing the issues in a rational manner. I must admit that telling everyone here who's slagging America to just just f**k off is not the most levelheaded thing to say, but after what this nation's been through, I can't really help it if this anti-American sentiment is filling me with an anger I can barely contain.
Your statement about "American's moral support" would lead most people to believe that you view it as a widely held view, or at least an undercurrent. Reality is that it's the most smallest of fringe elements imaginable.
I will admit to you that perhaps it was not as high up on the list for America to root out and prevent any funding of the IRA before 9/11. I hope you give me credit for that. Hindsight is 20 / 20, however and we also weren't as wise to the need to do everything imaginable to shut off any means of support for the Al-Qaida before 9/11 either. (Can you imagine the anti-American uproar anyways if we tried to stop donations and freeze assets before 9 / 11? Oh yeah, the liberal shrills would be crying foul for sure!)
I also don't really remember hearing very much of an outcry from British leaders that the U.S. was looking the other way, because I had the feeling that as far as our two governments go, we have been as tight as can be since Reagan and Thatcher.
You can't blame Clinton for not trying to get both sides to a peaceful solution on the issue, however. No matter how much I despised Clinton, I have to give him that.
To put my arguments in context, I'll point out that as a general rule, I'm reasonably pro-American. I grew up with a bunch of you and for the most part got along well. As I said, the only issue I have is this one.Quote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
You statement about "American's moral support" would lead most people to believe that you view it as an undercurrent and more than just a sentiment held by the smallest of fringe elements, but that is exactly what it is.
I know that conscious support for Irish terrorists (Loyalist as well as Republican) isn't high in America, but it's under the skin. I once got the **** kicked out of me in a bar over there because I stood up and protested at everyone handing over money to someone collecting for The Friends of the IRA. Only the two (American) friends I went with stood up for me, and they also got a good kicking for their troubles. The other patrons in the bar either joined in (probably about 15-20), or stood by and watched. No-one seemed to understand why I should have a problem with them paying to murder us. The point is, though almost everyone put their hand in their pocket to give some money over. Maybe I should give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they weren't paying attention to the cause - you see a collection tin and you stick some money in it - but I don't think people are that blind.
Successive British Governments have complained to the USA about this funding business, but it does little good. After all, Irish Americans make up a large proportion of the voting population, and no politician wants to piss them off.
Anyway, I know what you mean about the anti-American sentiments all over this place, and I don't mean to fuel them. In response to your point about what your nation has been through, though - and I certainly don't disagree with you - I'd refer you back to my figures. 3,312 people murdered by the IRA/UDA etc since 1969. We've got a right to be pissed off too.
>I know that conscious support for Irish terrorists (Loyalist as well as Republican) isn't high in America, but it's under the skin.
There are a lot of different types of skins in America. I'd say 99% of them would be very offended by this statement.
>I once got the **** kicked out of me in a bar over there because I stood up and protested at everyone handing over money to someone collecting for The Friends of the IRA.
I'm sorry to hear that, but that's what you get for drinking in McMurphy's Irish Pub! You're shading your whole view of a nation on this one incident. That angers me to hear this happened to you, but one experience in one small section of New York should not make you think Americans support the IRA.
>After all, Irish Americans make up a large proportion of the voting population
Okay, this is where I know you're just ignorant to the demographics of America. I'm sure I'm no expert on British demographics, either, so I say this to humbly correct you.
I'll go hunt down the numbers, but a large proportion they're definately not.
You're right - that was supposition. It does depend on your definition of "large", though. I'd say that 10% - to a politician - would constitute a large proportion. Also, aren't they the ethnic majority in places like NY and Massachussets? (That is a complete guess, but I think it's probably true.)Quote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
>After all, Irish Americans make up a large proportion of the voting population
Okay, this is where I know you're just ignorant to the demographics of America. I'm sure I'm no expert on British demographics, either, so I say this to humbly correct you.
I'll go hunt down the numbers, but a large proportion they're definately not.
I'm not saying the support is endemic, but neither is it restricted to tiny pockets of NY and Boston. The incident I mentioned happened in Washington - not far from Embassy Row. You also find people like Martin Sheen - who has no Irish links that I'm aware of - hosting a lavish birthday party for Gerry Adams, the leader of the IRA's political wing and a former member of the IRA.
The final point is in defence of my argument, though, is that it is still legal.
Okay, here are the numbers:
281 mil. Americans
44 mil. Irish (15%) out of 211 mil. whites
35 mil. Hispanics (12%)
34 mil. Blacks (12%)
I must admit, a larger percentage than I thought, but out of that 15%, I would be shocked if a large number of them actually support the terrorist actions of the IRA. I've never heard any national politician hint at approving of the IRA's actions, and as far as Martin Sheen goes, he's respected as an actor, but for people who follow politics, unless you're a real left-winger, he's viewed as a bit of a radical kook by most people, a definition I find most generous, actually.
You're mention of Colin Powell's statement hits it right on the head. I doubt that we were any more negligent in squeezing the supply chains to the IRA than we were the support for the Taliban pre-9/11.
You must also realize that pre-9/11, there'd be liberal kooks from all over the world screaming about civil liberties if any attempts had been made.
It's a different world now, and we as a nation are as horrified by the killing of innocent British citizens as we are by the killing of innocent Isralies as we are by the killing of Americans or any other peace loving democracies targeted by the freedom hating radicals of the world.
What I'd thought, but nice to have it confirmed.Quote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
It's a different world now, and we as a nation are as horrified by the killing of innocent British citizens as we are by the killing of innocent Isralies as we are by the killing of Americans or any other peace loving democracies targeted by the freedom hating radicals of the world.
Now, if you could just make it illegal... ;)
Thanks for the rational debate, Mikey. Maybe you could have a word with Justin...
You've got to try to understand that hearing these bullcrap cries about those poor Taliban prisoners (who really are being handled carefully, given all imaginable ammenities and medical attention as well as Korans and prayer rugs and the right to pray five times a day) - all these bullcrap hippie losers from Amnesty International and your very own parliment, not to mention a couple of looneys right here at VB World, all of this is just rubbing salt in the wound and making for some very pissed off Americans.
Just check the debate over on the BBC website, I think the outpouring of anger from Americans comprises about four out of every five opinions posted.
It's salt in the wound and asking people to try to stay rational is asking a lot in the face of these shrill liberal pleadings for the rights of terrorists.
Where was the outcry when every woman in Afghanistan was subject to public beatings and the Taliban executed scores of people in soccer stadiums and human heads were used for soccer balls in these stadiums turned execution arenas?
Where were all the liberal kooks from Amnesty International then?
Probably complaining about something else America was doing.
Fair enough. I certainly understand that.
I'd hope, though, that you can understand why we get pissed off at Americans complaining about the terrorist attacks on them while still paying for terrorist attacks on us. That link I posted earlier was to a BBC report on a New Yorker who was organising his annual fun run on behalf of the Real IRA. This was after the WTC attacks.
While we (almost all) agree that what happened to the USA was horrendous, evil and utterly unjustifiable, this kind of hypocrisy makes us sick.
Before you say it... yes, I know it's only a minority. At the risk of being boring though, I'll repeat: it's the fact that it's open and legal that is so maddening.
Anyway, I'm off. G'night.
Didn't hear them either ...Quote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
Where was the outcry when every woman in Afghanistan was subject to public beatings and the Taliban executed scores of people in soccer stadiums and human heads were used for soccer balls in these stadiums turned execution arenas?
Where were all the liberal kooks from Amnesty International then?
Probably complaining about something else America was doing.
Didn't hear international newspapers reporting about it also ...
Nobody cared enough about Afghanistan and its 20 odd years of civil war and if 9/11 didn't happen, they probably wouldn't be doing so today.
As I pointed out it's all down to politics. What's right for the government isn't necessarily the truth.
Without politics a country is rendered lawless, with them it can be even worse.
Ironic isn't it.
(btw. good to see that you are capable of reasonable debate after all. I hope you didn't brand me a mindless idiot. I am a looney though ;))
Unfortunately, pre-9/11, American was tiptoeing through the tulips of life. Ten years of economic expansion and a public with very few complaints had created an environment where the entire news media had become the tabloids itself.
America is at it's best when there is a real cause, an evil to be combatted. I think you could say that we as a nation started becomming a bit complacent going back even further, back to when the cold war had finally been won. But those motherfreaking terrorists have awoken the sleeping giant, and woe to all of those terrorists all over the globe. We will not stop with Al-Qaida, we will not stop with Hamas, we will not stop with the IRA.
I am not in a position of power to make you any promises, but if I know this country like I think I do, justice will not stop with the terrorists who seek to kill Americans.
F.Y.I., you might want to read this :
An interesting document even if half of it were true
There is a limit to coincidences you know ...
Sad but true.Quote:
Nobody cared enough about Afghanistan and its 20 odd years of civil war and if 9/11 didn't happen, they probably wouldn't be doing so today.
What I have heard of our attempts to get Bin Laden is that the closest we ever came was when we knew he was on a Saudi airliner and we pleaded with the Saudis to hold the plane for an hour so that we could detain him but the Saudis wouldn't comply. You can never completely trust everything the government tells you, but I find our government a more credible source than any frog reporter.Quote:
FTW, November 2, 2001 – 1200 PST -- On October 31, the French daily Le Figaro dropped a bombshell. While in a Dubai hospital receiving treatment for a chronic kidney infection last July, Osama bin Laden met with a top CIA official - presumably the Chief of Station. The meeting, held in bin Laden’s private suite, took place at the American hospital in Dubai at a time when he was a wanted fugitive for the bombings of two U.S. embassies and this year’s attack on the U.S.S. Cole. Bin Laden was eligible for execution according to a 2000 intelligence finding issued by President Bill Clinton before leaving office in January. Yet on July 14th he was allowed to leave Dubai on a private jet and there were no Navy fighters waiting to force him down.
(still reading)
I'm not sure if you've been made aware of this but a couple of months back the SAS came so close to getting him; apparently they missed him by an hour.Quote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
What I have heard of our attempts to get Bin Laden is that the closest we ever came was when we knew he was on a Saudi airliner and we pleaded with the Saudis to hold the plane for an hour so that we could detain him but the Saudis wouldn't comply. You can never completely trust everything the government tells you, but I find our government a more credible source than any frog reporter.
(still reading)
If you really want to, I think you can make a conspiracy out of anything. That doesn't mean I would automatically discount anyone raising the possibility of forehand knowledge of this incident, but I do know that often times people are very inspired to make the facts fit their conspiracy scenarios.
This right here is some pretty circular logic. Okay, we believe Le Figaro had the scoop the rest of the world was unaware of, this meeting between bin Laden and the mysterious CIA man. When the same newspaper prints subsequent articles that hospital staff deny having seen this mystery man, this makes for even more proof of CIA involvement because now were lead to presume it must be CIA pressure that has made either the staff or the newspaper change its tune.Quote:
Even though Le Figaro reported that it had confirmed with hospital staff that bin Laden had been there as reported, stories printed on November 1 contained quotes from hospital staff that these reports were untrue.
I'm not exactly sure of the thread of conspiracy that runs through all these reports, taking some scattered, unrelated reports and trying to play connect the dots.
One thing that I think does deserve more attention is the puts called on UAL and AMR. These are not reports based on unnamed sources, this is (I'm assuming) a fact that cannot be argued and all of those puts placed before 9/11 should definately be tracked down.
No. My country is NOT funding terrorists, its citizens may be. that's their problem.Quote:
Originally posted by InvisibleDuncan
I think you'll find that you didn't defend yourselves - you retaliated. That's entirely different. It's also worth pointing out that we helped you.
Tell me something:
A simple yes or no answer to each would be fine. :rolleyes:
- Do you agree with your countrymen funding Irish terrorists?
- Do you think it is right that it is legal for you to pay someone to murder me, my wife and my children?
- Do you in some way feel that planting a bomb in a shopping centre is not murder?
- Do you think that your country is in a position to preach about terrorism while funding terrorists to murder your allies?
No, of course not.
No, it's murder.
GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD *******...we are not murdering your people!!!!! maybe 20 years ago a couple of politicians up to no good funded the IRA, not Bush's problem, not mine.
Obviously all those things you cited are wrong but they are certainly not occurring today in your country. If they are, prove me wrong by linking me to a recent news article.
from someone in the UK, SECONDED!!!Quote:
Originally posted by mikeycorn
Those frogs are the biggest losers on the face of the Earth! I knew the Frenchies were jealous of the way the world has taken to Americana like blue jeans and coca-cola, but jealous to the point that the French Government has to step in to remove the McDonalds?
Must I really explain to anyone how totally pathetic this is? If the people of France didn't like Mickey D's, just let them go out of business! Obviously, this wasn't the case.
That is SO PATHETIC!!!
Sad French people lose out. Ronald is an ICON!
Pigmy
:cool:
don't tell me this thread is about to go on topic!!
Thought it would be nice!!!Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
don't tell me this thread is about to go on topic!!
Pigmy :cool:
ps. France Sucks (So does the Euro)
pps. i LIKE the States!
Thank god for the SAS. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
I'm not sure if you've been made aware of this but a couple of months back the SAS came so close to getting him; apparently they missed him by an hour.
Where the **** would we be without real soldiers who go in and do the job this all began for, rather than flying by dropping bombs on everyone...:rolleyes:
yeah, that's us Brits for you again.Quote:
Originally posted by rjlohan
Thank god for the SAS. ;)
Where the **** would we be without real soldiers who go in and do the job this all began for, rather than flying by dropping bombs on everyone...:rolleyes:
We NEARLY got him.
We WOULD have got him.
We COULD have got him.
;)
Pigmy
:cool:
On behalf of everyone else in this thread except you, you are hereby ejected and banned from posting any more of this hypocritical, insensitive, gung-ho bull****.Quote:
Originally posted by jpbtennisman
No. My country is NOT funding terrorists, its citizens may be. that's their problem.
No, of course not.
No, it's murder.
GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD *******...we are not murdering your people!!!!! maybe 20 years ago a couple of politicians up to no good funded the IRA, not Bush's problem, not mine.
Obviously all those things you cited are wrong but they are certainly not occurring today in your country. If they are, prove me wrong by linking me to a recent news article.
Mikey may have posted a few unthought responses here, as we all have, but you, my young American friend are a complete ******.
"No. My country is NOT funding terrorists, its citizens may be. that's their problem."
Right-o then. So it's all right for your country to send money/support/etc. but Afghani government (regardless of other issues you may have had) can't refuse to hand anyone and everyone you want over with no evidence, for fear of attack from 'brave' american pilots...:rolleyes:
The Aussie SAS probably would have too, except they were too busy dodging American bullets....Quote:
Originally posted by PeterPigmy
yeah, that's us Brits for you again.
We NEARLY got him.
We WOULD have got him.
We COULD have got him.
;)
Pigmy
:cool:
so, how many Americans have been killed by Americans in Afghanistan, btw?
You're condoning the murder of 5,000 people. That's not insensitive?Quote:
Originally posted by rjlohan
insensitive
Quote:
Originally posted by jpbtennisman
You're condoning the murder of 5,000 people. That's not insensitive?
Hmmm.... I don't recall doing that...in fact I believe most of my comments were against the murder of that many people in Afghanistan, and I'll second the IRA line too. Oh, and just to keep you accurate, I think the number is more like 2300.
And hey, what the hell! You're banned! SECURITY!!!
Yes, but you never mention WTC and the only thing I've heard you say about WTC is "Well, uh, American soldiers killed some civilians". I'm sure it wasn't intentional. Trust me.Quote:
Originally posted by rjlohan
Hmmm.... I don't recall doing that...in fact I believe most of my comments were against the murder of that many people in Afghanistan, and I'll second the IRA line too. Oh, and just to keep you accurate, I think the number is more like 2300.
And hey, what the hell! You're banned! SECURITY!!!
Murder is wrong be it the "seppos" (as you call us Americans) or something closer to your country.
I believe it's about 3500. Not the point however.
I don't think murder is right...be it the IRA, the people in Afghanistan, WTC...but if we had just sat on our asses and not done ANYTHING about WTC (probably what Clinton would have done) there would have been more attacks, etc...ever since our bomb campaign ended I haven't heard about any anthrax attacks or bombings-- only one 15 year old kid who crashed a plane into a building and killed nobody but himself.
I can't condone killing of civilians but I can assure you it was not intentional.
actually Clinton launched missiles on afghanistan in like 2 days of Bin Laden blowing up that US embasyQuote:
Originally posted by jpbtennisman
but if we had just sat on our asses and not done ANYTHING about WTC (probably what Clinton would have done)
For the 50th ****ing time, of course civilians were gonna get killed by a ****ing bombing campaign you stupid little ****!!! Your whole countrys ****ing solution to any goddamn problem is to whip out the guns and start firing. Not only that, but you do it from the sky and then start calling Australians pussies because we don't all have guns in the house. You are an ignorant piece of ****. Go home. And for the 3rd time - no-one wants to listen to your hypocritical crap anymore. You have no idea what you're talking about, and you keep bloody contradicting yourself. **** me. It's not even 9am and my blood pressure has already maxed...Quote:
Originally posted by jpbtennisman
I can't condone killing of civilians but I can assure you it was not intentional.
Where did the Anthrax 'attacks' come from? Any proof. Last I heard, all evidence pointed to a bloody American. Which is just typical, you kill each other, you kill people around the world, and when somebody retaliates to that, they are goddamn terrorists, and you bomb their country. You're just as bad as they are. The thing is, they are open about it and you do it subvertly, or with bombs.
I'm not condoning any terrorist act, from Al-Qaeda terrorists, from the ****ing IRA, from Muslim psychos, or from you ****ing Americans.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
Of course he did, he's a ****ing American. That's American pride, man.Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
actually Clinton launched missiles on afghanistan in like 2 days of Bin Laden blowing up that US embasy
At least he was a bit more active in trying to make peace...
Err, I don't hate Australians, well, let's say I DIDN'T until I saw a bunch of them on VBF talking **** about absolutely every thing in America. Our attitudes, our foods, even our TV shows.Quote:
Originally posted by rjlohan
For the 50th ****ing time, of course civilians were gonna get killed by a ****ing bombing campaign you stupid little ****!!! Your whole countrys ****ing solution to any goddamn problem is to whip out the guns and start firing. Not only that, but you do it from the sky and then start calling Australians pussies because we don't all have guns in the house. You are an ignorant piece of ****. Go home. And for the 3rd time - no-one wants to listen to your hypocritical crap anymore. You have no idea what you're talking about, and you keep bloody contradicting yourself. **** me. It's not even 9am and my blood pressure has already maxed...
Where did the Anthrax 'attacks' come from? Any proof. Last I heard, all evidence pointed to a bloody American. Which is just typical, you kill each other, you kill people around the world, and when somebody retaliates to that, they are goddamn terrorists, and you bomb their country. You're just as bad as they are. The thing is, they are open about it and you do it subvertly, or with bombs.
I'm not condoning any terrorist act, from Al-Qaeda terrorists, from the ****ing IRA, from Muslim psychos, or from you ****ing Americans.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
That's why I will cite every weakness in Australia that I can.
And yes, sometimes guns ARE The solution. Do you have a better one? What the **** WOULD YOU DO ... GO TALK TO BIN LADEN?????????
Check your PM box.
woah dudes and dudettes (if there are any lurking......no?, damn, anyway)!!! I think people here need to take a chill pill or 12.
Indeed :)Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
woah dudes and dudettes (if there are any lurking......no?, damn, anyway)!!! I think people here need to take a chill pill or 12.
Where can I get some of these 'chill pills'...you know somebody?;)Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
woah dudes and dudettes (if there are any lurking......no?, damn, anyway)!!! I think people here need to take a chill pill or 12.
cool! A dudette!Quote:
Originally posted by Pix
Indeed :)
might do ;)Quote:
Where can I get some of these 'chill pills'...you know somebody?
all i gotta say is this...
South Africa took a very brave and unexpected route to solving years of hatred and violence. They havent solved it all but the Truth and Reconciliation commission should serve as a benchmark and example for all countries. And then if that doesnt work we should bomb the hell out of Poland...
With that attitude, one day, America is going to start losing allies, and going to be under attack from places it never dreamed. That wasn't meant to be a threat or anything, I just think that with a guns are the solution attitude, and a narrow-minded view of the world, one day, alot of bad things are gonna happen. The whole world is already on a slide, and that sort of thing is exactly why.Quote:
Originally posted by jpbtennisman
Err, I don't hate Australians, well, let's say I DIDN'T until I saw a bunch of them on VBF talking **** about absolutely every thing in America. Our attitudes, our foods, even our TV shows.
That's why I will cite every weakness in Australia that I can.
And yes, sometimes guns ARE The solution. Do you have a better one? What the **** WOULD YOU DO ... GO TALK TO BIN LADEN?????????
Check your PM box.
well, I hate people who think they have all teh answers.Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
woah dudes and dudettes (if there are any lurking......no?, damn, anyway)!!! I think people here need to take a chill pill or 12.
RJ...if you are so brilliant...and you know SO much more about how to lead a country...tell me, when the USA was attacked by a group of terrorists, if you were our president, what would YOU have done about it?
If you ask nicely I could go and get some pixie dustQuote:
Originally posted by rjlohan
Where can I get some of these 'chill pills'...you know somebody?;)
Yup I'm around :)Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
cool! A dudette!
Poor Polish, they always get picked on firstQuote:
Originally posted by beachbum
And then if that doesnt work we should bomb the hell out of Poland...
Sweet, how ya diddling?Quote:
Originally posted by Pix
Yup I'm around :)
Exactly. 'Cept for the bombing bit. Back to the good 'ol days of a bit of fisticuffs, I reckon. :DQuote:
Originally posted by beachbum
all i gotta say is this...
South Africa took a very brave and unexpected route to solving years of hatred and violence. They havent solved it all but the Truth and Reconciliation commission should serve as a benchmark and example for all countries. And then if that doesnt work we should bomb the hell out of Poland...
Not too bad, exams are keeping my mind busy. Hows you?Quote:
Originally posted by chrisjk
Sweet, how ya diddling?
Well, go shoot them then. That'll solve it all, right?Quote:
Originally posted by jpbtennisman
well, I hate people who think they have all teh answers.
As for solutions, there are a thousand. Bombing the crap out of a whole coutnry isn't it. How about making moves to find out why so many extremists within and without your country choose it as a target, and try to solve those problems.
The attack was a knee-jerk revenge action, and nothing more. It solved nothing, in fact probably made things worse for your country. I think the terrorists involved got exactly what they wanted. Exposure, and alot more support. I reckon you played right into it. The Taliban were the ones that got punished, along with god knows how many Afghans, and all the terrorists you were after are gone.
Hmmm.... how nicely?Quote:
Originally posted by Pix
If you ask nicely I could go and get some pixie dust
urrgh, exams!Quote:
Originally posted by Pix
Not too bad, exams are keeping my mind busy. Hows you?
I'm chilled :) (had too many chill pills ;) )