OCARINA Network Project Communication

It's okay, filby. You look like you come from a rich/spoiled family, so I'll leave the honors to you.:D;):):cool::cool:

We can put a limit of 5 megs download max...Like that no Warez will be sent :)

No, that's bad. The point of file-sharing is Warez, porn, Div-X Movies, and MP3z! (Although no one wants to admit it.;))

If you limit it in that way, no one will use it. Look at Morpheus. It accepts all files, and that's why lotsa people use it. (in addition to b/c it has a large user base)

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and MP3z!

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With a limit of 5 meg you can share only mp3 and little file I know.

Well, every IM have a file transfert...so what is the problem ! :)

The problem is that no one uses File sharing for just 1 type of file (well, almost no one).

For the greatest chance of success, I say we allow all files, and all file sizes. Since the users are sharing the files, we can just have a clause in the user agreement that they are not to share copyright materials, and that we will not be held responsible.

Even though we have that clause, everyone is gonna share warez and stuff anyways. We'll just not enforce our user agreement. That way, we get benifet of users sharing anything they want, and we don't get in trouble.

Of course, it is good to keep in mind that we actually have to have a server setup, program made, and lots of people using it for this to actually apply.;) :p :D :) :cool: :rolleyes:

WEll if we have a problem we just have to put a limit and create our own crack to crack the limit :D mouahahaha

Now you're talking!:D

When do you think we will be able to test the IM ?

When the server has at least the login and the create new member stuff ready. :)

We will put our IM at Download.com with all professional program?

probably.

In my opinion there are more than enaugh Filesharing systems around...
but maybe we could implement a gnutella client in our client application...
That would give all the responsibility for the shared stuff to the gnutella network which is, at least as far as I know, unatackable and is completely decentralized.

IMHO no file sharing whatsoever should be implemented. It is hard to implement (especially for the Gnutella architecture) and it just brings up too many legal issues.

I'm okay w/ filburt. heh...that means no coding for a an extra program! :D

OK, I think it is a good idea to let be the filesharing

Which services will OCARINA offer?
I think the following ones are MUSTs:
1. IM
2. E-Mail
3. Fast Message (Messages the User gets as soon as he logs on)
4. Maybe Webspace (10...20MB?) (NO .exe or .mp3 files)
What else

I'd like to know who is going to pay for the webspace and e-mail storage...

I think these services should be offered for free and we should offer a premium membership for a reasonablerice (maybe € 2.95 a month) which offers AD-Free e-mail (for normal members there would be a "Sent by OCARINA Network" footer appended to the mail), stock tracking (maybe), and other services

Webspace is probably not needed, as there are plenty of other services out there, and I doubt we can do better than f2s.:D

Stock tracking....that can be integrated into the IM. Maybe we should, like MSN, have a little ad bar at the bottom.

I think this is the most decent way to do advertising because it doesn't disturb the members to much.
But the AD should be placed on the Main window only

Yeah. Right below the buddy list.

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Originally posted by eiSecure
Stock tracking....that can be integrated into the IM. Maybe we should, like MSN, have a little ad bar at the bottom.

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I've got a DLL we can use for that. :)

So do I. It's called MS Stock.:D

I'll have school holidays from next thursday on...
so I'll have plenty of time for this project

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Originally posted by eiSecure
So do I. It's called MS Stock.:D

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But when the entire world uses our program then MS won't get jealous and sue us for using their stuff. :D

:D

How about we have a stock ticker that doesn't have a 15-minute delay?

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Originally posted by Andreas@ALSoft
I'll have school holidays from next thursday on...
so I'll have plenty of time for this project

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My suggestion is that you draft up a protocol for the client/server IM communication (along with Alex's encryption knowledge) so we can start programming the server.

We'll just get the info from http://www.freerealtime.com

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Originally posted by eiSecure
:D

How about we have a stock ticker that doesn't have a 15-minute delay?

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How about we fly you to the NYSE and you just call us every minute with every stock value? :D

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Originally posted by filburt1


My suggestion is that you draft up a protocol for the client/server IM communication (along with Alex's encryption knowledge) so we can start programming the server.

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By draft, I hope it's actually writing a function where all you need is data, and i'll automatically put in the header, etc. and send it.

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Originally posted by filburt1


How about we fly you to the NYSE and you just call us every minute with every stock value? :D

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Sure!:D Free trip to NY on a plane.:D Sounds nice!;)

Q33

I think we can convince them to cooperate with us if we offer to add a line like "Powered by freerealtime.com" to the stock tracker

Hope so. (Also include a link) But first, we have to get the server and stuff finished, so when we show the program to them, they'll actually know what it does, and how it'll benefit them.

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Originally posted by eiSecure
By draft, I hope it's actually writing a function where all you need is data, and i'll automatically put in the header, etc. and send it.

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I mean something like a specification and an example. Like this, but it is kinda simple:

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client: login filburt1
server: pass
client: likeimgoingtobestupidenoughtotellyou
server: accept
client: retrieve buddies
server: dude person othername ei daok [end]
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....or you could fly me to the NYSE and call me every minute.:D

How about not. :D

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Originally posted by filburt1


I mean something like a specification and an example. Like this, but it is kinda simple:

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client: login filburt1
server: pass
client: likeimgoingtobestupidenoughtotellyou
server: accept
client: retrieve buddies
server: dude person othername ei daok [end]
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"likeimgoingtobestupidenoughtotellyou"...heh..you just did.:D

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Originally posted by filburt1
How about not. :D

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I said we could.;)

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Originally posted by filburt1


I mean something like a specification and an example. Like this, but it is kinda simple:

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client: login filburt1
server: pass
client: likeimgoingtobestupidenoughtotellyou
server: accept
client: retrieve buddies
server: dude person othername ei daok [end]
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A function that logs on would be nice. For example:

VB Code:

Login(strUsername As String, strPassword As String, strServer As String)

And then the function could return an array with a list of buddies.

Right, but I mean the specification for the streaming between the client and the server, like "GET /index.html HTTP/1.1" for HTML.

Yeah. I think Andreas has that all worked out already.

A PC2Phone option would be nice too.:D

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Originally posted by eiSecure
Yeah. I think Andreas has that all worked out already.

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Then I hope that he informs us of it. :D

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Originally posted by eiSecure
Yeah. I think Andreas has that all worked out already.

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Partly but I'll have it implemented in a little VB server very soon.
I'll also upload an encrypted document about the protocol then

Okay.

Okay, I'll disconnect now...
(Our english teacher is planning to write a claas test on monday or tuesday and it looks suspiciously like moday would be the day of the truth...)

Okay. Good luck!:)

Thanks...
I will need it... (not that I'm bad at English but that teacher...)

I do not think we should have a webstorage. But it can be cool to have a thing like yahoo where we can talk like a radio chat :)

I believe it's called a conference.:D

It shouldn't be too hard to set up...just have 1 user as server, and other users connect to server to talk.

ah ok :( but it is funny

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Fast Message (Messages the User gets as soon as he logs on)

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that can be nice

heh...radio chat..it IS kinda funny...:D

Did I miss spell it ?

No...you just used the wrong term for it.

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(NO .exe or .mp3 files)

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Person will name the .exe or the .mp3 to a .jpg and will tell to person to change the extention when the downlaod it is done.

I think the best protection is a size limit ;)

We're not doing file sharing.

I still think it'a best to not limit that. But as discussed earlier, we're probably not going to have filesharing.

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Originally posted by filburt1
We're not doing file sharing.

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Okay. I guess it's official.;)

We're not doing File Sharing.:p