Burn it to a dvd then you wont need to download it each time. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chris128
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Burn it to a dvd then you wont need to download it each time. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chris128
yes but what point is there in burning a corrupt ISO image to DVD lol
How the hell did you get a corrupt version? :p Well, download it again and burn the work iso to dvd. If you have downloaded it multiple times already and it is still corrupt there is something really wrong with our pc. Other people are downloading the whole download in working order. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by chris128
Yeah I'm going to download it again, thats what I said in my original post :P
There's no point in me burning it to DVD as I'm just using it with a Virtual Machine so I can just tell the Virtual Machine to mount the ISO image and 'pretend' its a CD in its drive.
@ dilettante
That is good to know! :)
There is still three weeks left though if anyone hasn't downloaded the Win 7 Beta yet.Quote:
* Starting January 27th, the Windows 7 page will be updated with a warning that time is running out on downloading the Windows 7 Beta and that we will be limiting downloads shortly. People will be encouraged to register and start the download of the Windows 7 Beta sooner rather than later.
* February 10th, new downloads of the Windows 7 Beta will no longer be available. People who have already started their Windows 7 Beta download and have not yet finished will still be able to finish their download and are encouraged to do so.
* February 12th, people will no longer be able to complete their download of the Windows 7 Beta. Anyone who hasn’t finished downloading the Windows 7 Beta will be unable to do so.
I just re-downloaded it and it installed fine this time :) Although I have to say so far it doesn't really seem to be much different to Vista. I'll keep playing around and see what I can find though I guess..
Well the Beta wasn't made available primarily to satisfy rubberneckers anyway. The expectation is that different groups will use it to prepare for Win7's release and help identify bugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris128
Some people are developers who get the chance to make sure their programs will work on Win7. Others might produce hardware that needs to have Vista drivers tested and changed until they work on Win7. Others might be corporate desktop support people making sure their management tools and procedures work, etc.
For Joe User there is an opportunity to send comments that will help Microsoft find out what is confusing or hard to use about the changes made in Win7. This might also include users who can't get some 3rd party software working on Win7.
I'm most surprised that Microsoft plans to continue dispensing keys for installing the Beta after the Feb. 12 downloads cutoff. My guess is that the demand was nowhere near as big as they expected, but they need to shut off the expensive download sites they had to set up because the demand came in such an enormous burst.
I'd also expect a 2nd public Beta later in the "season" as things are fixed or changed, probably well before this first one expires. The old keys should still be good for the new Beta though.
I guess we'll see.
They have not restored the MSSOAPClient in Win7 that was part of XP but removed in Vista. I didn't expect it, but I was sort of hoping.
Oh well, we can still deploy it from the Toolkit as we have to for Vista.
Another weirdie:
The Win7 Beta has a 2.8 interface TLB for ADOX. Vista does not.
There must have been some important application that early-bound to ADOX 2.8 at some point, so Microsoft added this for compatibility. Very strange because XP included a TLB for the ADOX 2.6 interfaces but no others. That TLB is in neither Vista (Vista provides no ADOX TLBs) or Win7 Beta. Programs early-binding to ADOX 2.6 will fail on both Vista and Win7 Beta, but we should expect that by now.
Remember: Never use early binding with ADOX. Microsoft does not provide a full set of interface TLBs as they do for ADO.
I am a corporate desktop support guy and trust me pretty much no one will be using this OS until at least a year after it has been released so i expect there are very few people rushing to test the pre release version to see if their favourite management tools work on it :) not a single one of our support clients even has one PC on Vista yet lolQuote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
I remember saying pretty much the same thing back when Vista was first released! A lot of people I talk to a my school back then had a difference in opinion though.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris128
I tend to be hard on desktop guys as a rule because they often seem to be lazy or fearful of change, though they may have their reasons! Moving to a new desktop platform can be a lot of work, and these folks often feel like the dog that has been beaten too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris128
So :thumb: for making some effort to explore the road ahead a little.
One thing to consider is that in a year or so the economy may have brightened to the point where new desktop machines may be purchased again. By then Windows 7 is more likely to ship on them than Vista, and maybe for once people won't be so quick to back-port XP images onto the new machines.
Who knows, the vendors might not even have XP drivers available anymore by then. ;)
This is a piechart showing the users that have connected to my Web site this January (500 visits per day on average) indicating the OS that they use.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris128
As you can see, 81.19% are still using XP and 15.34 have switched to Vista. This is the situation in Italy.
I wonder if Microsoft should have waited a little longer before coming up with a new version of their OS. A lot of people who were about to switch to Vista have told me that, at this point, they will wait for Windows 7 before abandoning XP.
Very few users actually upgrade anyway though. Vista and Win7 adoption will be primarily be driven by acquisition of new machines that arrive with a new OS preinstalled.
As far as Microsoft waiting goes, I think they feel that Vista has gotten such an undeserved bad name a fresh face can't hurt sales.
The Mojave Experiment
Not necessarily. Many people decide to buy a new computer because a new operating system has come out.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
Has anyone else noticed that Windows 7 Beta doesn't detect the internet/network settings on your computer? That is unless I am wrong in assuming Win 7 Beta has internet access enabled! :lol: I just tried accessing the internet using IE 8 on Win 7 using a Virtual Machine. However, when I install Linux Mandriva on the VM it detected the internet and network settings. :confused:
I can access the internet just fine from Windows 7 using a VM.
Same here
As can I, you can see from my screenshot.
You may have to enable it in the VM software.
I am thinking I have forgotten to to select something when I setup the Win 7 Beta machine and set the other machine correctly. I will go back and compare the VM settings and see if they are the same or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by dclamp
Edit:
I have double checked the settings on both virtual machines and they are the same! However, when I go in to Win 7 Beta and click on any menu item I receive a message "Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not have appropriate premission to access the item.". This is strange because being a Beta you would only have access to the main account on the system.
Edit:
As discussed in the "General PC" section IE 8 uses yet another set of style rules:
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...86#post3432286
Why don't Micro Circus keep using the same styles that used for IE 7? I don't see any connection between resolution and css so why the need for new set of styles for each new web browser? :confused:
I think the idea is that IE8 will be more 'standards compliant' ... but you should still have a button that lets you switch it back to IE7 mode shouldn't you?
Yeah, I agree! It would be a big pain if you had to create a new css style each time a new browser was released.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris128
Wait till CSS tables hit in a big way, the nets going to be more messed up than the Queensland Red rugby team :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightwalker83
Anyone know if IE8 is including support for the CSS features?
Don't you mean sheets not tables? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiDexter
I would think so! If IE8 couldn't support css then we would have to use big chunky pages.Quote:
Anyone know if IE8 is including support for the CSS features?
The new CSS guidelines include a re-introduction of the concept of tables, no not the old html ones, it's already supported in the later releases of FF etc but not in IE7, i.e. making it pretty unusable to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightwalker83
The question is whether IE8 will support the latest CSS guidelines, it already supports existing CSS in version 7 so (albeit with a funky support in some places).
i think there's something wrong with a setting on microsoft's server. I've managed to get bad downloads from them before. One of them was server 2003 back when i had an 128k isdn connection that took me a week to download it. I had to redownload it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightwalker83
I though Microsoft would have multiple servers! Couldn't you use a download resume program (whatever they're called)? You could than continue download from when the download stopped instead of having to begin the whole download again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Orwell
Yeah, I hate having to write new styles for every different version of Internet Explorer. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiDexter
lol they will have loads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightwalker83
Well they were probably having an off day if they were all having server trouble. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by chris128
who said anything about the download stopping? It downloaded with no stops but was still corrupted. I think the problem though was i WAS using a download accelerator that broke the file into four parts. star downloader seems to have issues sometimes with really really large files.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightwalker83
:wave: Yeah, I find that annoying how some programs split you download or saved files (on your computer) in to multiple files. If one part stuffs up then you are in trouble and have to re-download the file. It is a rather stupid idea in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Orwell
i believe he was pointing out that there IS a button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightwalker83
I know that! I was talking about:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Orwell
It is really stupid if IE8 will use yet another style!Quote:
Originally Posted by chris128
Edit:
Just because there is a button doesn't mean I don't have to create an extra style for a website in-order for it to display properly.
Would anyone be so kind as to post some screenshots of Windows 7? Unfortunately, I don't have enough space left on my hard disk to install it with a virtual machine.
Thanks in advance.
It looks pretty much identical to Vista...Quote:
Originally Posted by esposito
A few here and you can Google for more:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...-windows-7.ars
Anything in particular you wanted to see?
Thanks. I think the screenshots in the Web site you have suggested can give a clear idea of what Windows 7 looks (will look) like. I have to agree with chris128: there seems to be no significant difference in comparison with Vista.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
I wonder if there will be good reasons to switch to this new version.
Well there are a bunch of new features, just not a lot that you can see by looking at screenshots. If you wanna see a lot of the new features, watch these three short videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvoo31F98X0 (skip the 2 minute long intro...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_E31dNtvHE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK_gPg9AxYA